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geneven 2010-05-13 23:40

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
Is there something like an owned section of the Wiki where new versions of this could be posted permanently? The reason I specify owned is that I think that not just anyone can be trusted to handle this issue judiciously, as etuoyo is doing, so I would like someone like him controlling new entries, not some pro-Nokia hothead.

nosa101 2010-05-14 00:01

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657606)
Ah yes forgot about this even though it is the biggest issue on the phone app for me. Reason being most of my family live in different country from me. Like to call their main phone well - mobile that's fine (if they have just one in their home country). When they came to the UK on holiday like to label their UK phone mobile UK. But gets even worse. My eldest sister has around 4 home country mobiles. On N95 I could call one blackberry. I know she would always carry this around so I know I am fine if I text her on either of those. Now I don't text her at all as I have no idea which number is her blackberry.

Will update opening post with this.

you can assign numbers for cell, cell(home), cell(work),phone, phone(home), and phone(work).

you can't edit the titles though. but you can assign your sister's blackberry to "cell(work)". I'm assuming it is a work phone

zombiegavins 2010-05-14 00:17

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
i admit the n900 has its problems but i couldn't live without it.
i only have the issue with the media player widget play button not working and nothing i do will solve it

felbutss 2010-05-14 00:20

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
ye it has its problems but i LOVE IT. work around them dude. just installed the pythn script to manually focus and turn on/off the red/white light during video/photo moments. wow

woody14619 2010-05-14 02:50

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657036)
(14) ... turn by turn navigation. ... On the N900 you have to pay for a third party programme.

This is not entirely true... There are two options for turn-by-turn maps, one is free (Maemo Mapper) and the other is pay (Sygic). I noted this in my sister thread in the top post. The gripe on OVI maps is totally valid still, but you may just want to say you need to find alternate solutions since the built in nav program is not useful. :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657036)
(11) The screen does not refresh automatically

This is actually a power-save feature, where widgets don't update while the screen is off to save power on the device. Not all widgets behave this way. Some that do this power save trick shouldn't (like the clock) and some that don't should (the Facebook widget for example until it was fixed in PR 1.1.1).

The screen redraw happens within a second usually, but I do see a valid complaint here, especially for status-bar icons and the clock. Those should update regardless of screen status, since they don't update often (they're not usually animated), and people rely on seeing them instantly to know the device status after a quick flick-on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657036)
(13) There is no full portrait mode


Portrait mode is handled on an app by app basis, even for Nokia based apps. PR 1.2 is going to expand the number of Nokia based apps that support portrait mode, but by default any app on the phone can use the existing APIs to detect and trigger portrait mode. An example of an early adopter of this was Xornal, which has had portrait mode since before PR 1.1 came out.

This is the way the device was designed, having a hardware keyboard. Just like most apps for the iPhone don't work in landscape mode (try it some time, only some apps support tilting), most don't support portrait on the N900. A key difference is that most of the vendor supplied apps on the iPhone do support tilt, while most on the N900 don't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657036)
(15) The OVI store does not work properly with the N900.

I can browse the OVI store on the N900 just fine if I go to the store via the standard browser. There's a link on the desktop that ships with the device that doesn't work, but just going to the store works fine. If you click on items while browsing from the store the link loads the App Manager and begins the app install process rather seamlessly. This is how I've installed all my OVI store apps. I didn't even know about the SMS option until you pointed it out. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657036)
Media handling and Media Tags/Art issues (15-20)

The problem with tags and the like is that there is no one set standard out there to follow. Some program add art tags with JPEG images, some with PNG, some with GIF, some with proprietary formats.... and it's not clear from the tag which method is used in most cases. I've had similar issues with compilation CDs with "various artists" on Sansa players that list by tag vs by file name. I would like to see an option in the media player to sort by file/folder name though, that would be nice.

As for media playback, I've seen very little in the way of stuttering or problems, initially or otherwise. I've gotten texts or calls while the media is playing and seen it stutter then, but I can't say I blame it in that case. Putting the device in "airplane mode" while doing playback will fix such issues, but then you're "off-line". I've yet to see a device handle taking a text or a call gracefully while playing back media though, even iPhones stutter when that happens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657036)
(21) No proper functioning software to sync with your PC the way itunes syncs perfectly with iphone.

I have to disagree with this. My default media manager (a generic windows based pod-cast program) has no issues syncing with the N900. I point it to a folder on a mapped drive, and it works just fine. Any tool that can sync with a Sansa media player, or a file-based player that looks like a media stick will have no issues syncing with the N900. iTunes doesn't sync well with anything but iDevices, since that's it's target audience. iPhone can't sync with Google calendars, where my N900 can... Am I surprised? No. I don't expect companies to write their programs to play nicely with competitors products.

As for generic syncing, I sync my N900 with Google and with my office Outlook (via Nokia's free PC Suite) and it syncs contacts and calendars pretty seamlessly.

techngro 2010-05-14 04:51

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
I don't know if the OP mentioned it, but you can't adjust the volume when listening to music unless you unlock the phone. That's with the current official firmware. If you have the RC of PR 1.2, then you can do it. I found that out today.

nosa101 2010-05-14 05:02

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
The OP needs to correct the sync issue. There is GoGadget for mac and pc, pc suite for pc and nokia multimedia transfer for mac

nokia multimedia transfer syncs with itunes and iphoto

ysss 2010-05-14 05:12

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
factoids:

- iTunes sync calendar, contacts, notes, todos, email preferences, apps, music, videos, subscribed podcasts, audiobooks, ebooks.... but no, it doesn't sink the kitchensync.

- GoGadget is $19.95.

ossipena 2010-05-14 06:26

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by etuoyo (Post 657409)
Thanks. See my comments below.

these are called defect units. these should be replaced asap. (you can get a brand new if you return the device within xx days at least in Finland)

Really? Thought this was a wide spread issue hence the thread on this site with over a 1000 posts or so and that this was a software issue which was fixed for many in the last firmware update but I still have the problem.

it is issue with software and hardware. those two (linux & hw) not playing along causes the reboots (https://supportforums.motorola.com/t...86278855.node0). if I was you, I'd try to get the device switched to another.

and I am talking about bug #6334 now. not sure what the situation with proc/bootreason: sw-rst is...

etuoyo 2010-05-14 06:37

Re: N900 Issues: For Potential Buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 657674)
Hint: Any time you justify adding an entry with the phrase "All Symbian Phones did this" it goes into Annoyance or Feature I Wish It Had, not Issue. Since this is NOT a Symbian phone, it has different features. Not all of them are good, but that does not mean it is an "issue".

Okay what word would you like me to replace Issues with in the Heading? It is meant to be a comprehensive list of all possible negatives on the N900 so a potential buyer can see all the annoyances, major hardware defaults, minor software defaults, major software default. It then helps them to make an informed decision. On that basis it is not a question of deleting any of those things. Amending the heading is possibly the more appropriate thing so any suggestions will be appreciated.


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