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-   -   Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44664)

Texrat 2010-02-16 19:22
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by silvermountain (Post 530316)
And I guess he did come here and "asked". :D

I think I'll go and read some Aldous Huxley.
Based on that allusion I think you have Quim confused with someone else.

benny1967 2010-02-16 19:23
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 529073)
"Maemo 6" will not be used by Nokia as a brand since all the marketing effort around the software platform will be around MeeGo.

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- For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo.
I'm slightly confused about this. Dropping the Maemo name for Harmattan is a reasonable thing to do now, but if it's not MeeGo (technically)... should it be called MeeGo? Will it? :confused:

mrojas 2010-02-16 19:29
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by Reggie (Post 530290)
FYI, forum has been renamed. This thread has been sticky-ed as well. Thanks.
In the words of Darth Vader...

"This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Kenobi, it will soon see the end of the Rebellion."

:p:p

qole 2010-02-16 19:38
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 529073)
...There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of losing compatibility ... with MeeGo...
Well, that's not a great example, since Moblin uses GStreamer too... Actually, can you name any components that are significantly different between the two systems? I don't mean things that one platform has but the other is missing, I mean different components that do the same thing in the two systems? I'm thinking of the things you refer to as "some obscure middleware components" later in your post.

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 529073)
Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.
Great news! More time for Maemo developers to adjust.

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Originally Posted by qgil (Post 529073)
For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason...

...This is why we are dropping the "Maemo 6" *brand* while keeping all the Harmattan development full speed and in the same direction that it was.
Another bit of great news! Just because something is "really not for a good reason" doesn't mean a lot of companies will do it anyway, for political reasons.

I'm sure the Maemo developers are happy about that too.

Although I'm very curious.... What's going to happen to "Maemo Devices" inside Nokia? Is it just changing names to "MeeGo Devices" or is it being completely restructured?

christexaport 2010-02-16 19:40
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why is this so hard to understand?! Maemo6 as a brand name is replaced by MeeGo! Harmattan is the internal name for the first instance of MeeGo for handhelds. Maemo6 was just a label, and though a movement, not a religion.

Now wonder how much influence Meego will have on Symbian?

slartibart 2010-02-16 19:51
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 530387)
why is this so hard to understand?! Maemo6 as a brand name is replaced by MeeGo! Harmattan is the internal name for the first instance of MeeGo for handhelds. Maemo6 was just a label, and though a movement, not a religion.

Now wonder how much influence Meego will have on Symbian?
Sorry I think you're out of your depth here.

ewan 2010-02-16 20:07
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 530387)
why is this so hard to understand?! Maemo6 as a brand name is replaced by MeeGo! Harmattan is the internal name for the first instance of MeeGo for handhelds. Maemo6 was just a label, and though a movement, not a religion.
I think you're missing the point rather. There's more to what Maemo is/was than just the brand name, there's substance too. From what we've been told so far it appears that Harmattan will be exactly the same thing that it would have been it were still going to be called Maemo 6, but it will acquire the MeeGo branding anyway. The version after that will be the first to include the changes to the substance, and will arguably be the first real MeeGo (or at least, Nokia's first MeeGo).

attila77 2010-02-16 20:23
Re: Renaming "Maemo 6" to MeeGo / Harmattan
 
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Originally Posted by christexaport (Post 530387)
why is this so hard to understand?! Maemo6 as a brand name is replaced by MeeGo! Harmattan is the internal name for the first instance of MeeGo for handhelds. Maemo6 was just a label, and though a movement, not a religion.
The thing is we don't know just how MeeGo Maemo 6 is (waiting anxiously for the Harmattan SDK :) ). It's not *really* Meego, as we already know few marked differences from Maemo 6. M6 is just close to it, and renamed to harness the buzz. Not necessarily bad, but with considerable potential to cause confusion (hence the need to know exactly in what ways it IS meego and in what ways it isn't).

Rauha 2010-02-16 20:40
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We allready have report of first "MeeGo" device from LG. Link That one looks like Moblin. Now Nokia is essentially saying that Maemo 6 will be rebranded as MeeGo.

In other words there's a great opportunity for consumer confusion here, if both Moblin 2 and Maemo 6 are marketed/branded as MeeGo, before we have truly unifield MeeGo platform.

dantonic 2010-02-16 21:32
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But the name "Maemo" is sooo much cooler than "MeeGo"!!!
:(


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