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@ysss is quite interesting but never seems to get anything. He could start an argument in an empty room.

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@enyi: there is a thread for ad hominem attack :) or you could pm me directly.

I welcome discussion/debates that are in topic here though.

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Well, what can I say? Wow...

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Lets see, could it be that the forecast for profit based on sales of phones are looking a bit gloomy perhaps? :rolleyes:

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Nokia will shortly be marked as a pretty major sell when some quarterly market reviews come out. A few senior nokia execs will be shocked about how negatively the market views the future for Nokia and a fair few will be looking for new jobs. With a new management team Nokia can trash the opposition.

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Well, the popular pro-Nokia views here discredit the importance of smartphone segment while altogether maintaining Nokia's superiority in that segment.

Thus I was rather surprised that Nokia listed that point as the first 'excuse' to their profit warning. As for the declining Euro value, it only comes into effect partway through the period. I can see this considerably affecting their financials going through 2010 though, if euro value doesn't recover.

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How are the labour laws in Finland? Is everything unionized making it impossible to layoff non-performers?

The stock will skyrocket once the CEO is replaced...

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Nokia say what Nokia has to say in a situation like this. Everyone, and Nokia in particular, knows that the real reason is that they aren't fast enough making a killer phone like the X10 mini (number one selling phone in Europe right now, not just smartphones, but every phone counting including "dumbphones"). The X10 mini is a smartphone running Android, so there should be no reason to be surprised.

That is the simple truth. iPhone, droids, Blackerries, totally uninteresting. The competition is from Sony Ericsson, and it will get worse before it gets better. Samsung and Bada is coming at full steam.

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The CEO willl take a few with him. Nokia have no choice but to remove the majority of its senior management team. It is sink or swim and shareholders will decide

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Hello - long time listener, first time post, anyhow I feel Nokia has fallen into the trap that many big companies have been caught in before.

My parallel example would be the big American auto manufacturers such as GM/Ford - competitors from Japan were always present in the US market but the American firms became so entrenched in a certain way of working they stopped all real R+D. By this I mean real R+D is to try totally new approaches, to break with the past - BUT to also offer the chance for the fruits from R+D to be fed into production.

To me the S60 devices are suffering from a complete collapse of mindshare - development for S60 is difficult - although Nokia is desperately attempting to bring QT to S60. The UI is tired. TIRED. TIRED. But they are unable to produce a better feel; or they just don't care;

I have an N900 - with a few tweaks to the phone UI app I'm sure it could work better and enter the mainstream. If Maemo had been given cellular capable hardware far far earlier Nokia would not be in this mess now.