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tso 2008-05-22 10:49

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
got to say that its funny to see the osso mail app pull of something that modest just cant seem to get right.

i dont know why, but modest seems to have it in for one of my pop account.

it downloads full mails when told to only get headers.

mails i know i have read becomes unread the next time i open modest.

and thanks to that insistance of getting whole mails i have to manually clear the inbox.

but i guess imap (specifically gmail imap) have priority as it seems thats what most of the community uses...

qole 2008-05-22 18:15

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 184586)
but i guess imap (specifically gmail imap) have priority as it seems thats what most of the community uses...

YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED TO GOOGLE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

munky261 2008-05-26 21:34

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
i STILL get a ssl cert. error when using gmail imap.

jjstewart 2008-05-28 11:58

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
new modest update is available. Seems good so far...

solico 2008-05-29 07:48

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Tried the last version and still getting internal error message on quering for new mail.

If anyone else is getting this please vote for
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2968

Must admit I'm getting a little bit nervous. Diablo is coming and it seems I'll end up with an email-client which only works till a new mail arrives.
I know, I know...it's beta and the developers are working on it as we speak ...but still...it's annoying

solico 2008-05-29 08:49

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
please can someone confirm, if there is a problem with imap-folder naming.
If I move mails to folders which includes characters like "." or "-" it's more likely that modest will crash with "internal error".

alephito 2008-05-29 11:22

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Since the release of W20 I have seen just a couple of Internal Error messages. Much better than the usual daily crashes.

With W22, no errors so far.

munky261 2008-05-29 12:42

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
i upgraded to W22....still got the ssl cert error for gmail imap. i uninstalled modest and all libraries,wiped all traces from my system and reinstalled... and still get it. how are people getting gmail imap to work?

hvacengi 2008-05-29 12:51

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
I too get the cert error, but I'm not sure that it's Modest's fault (completely). I also have Claws mail installed, and recalled having to do something with the cert when I first setup there, so I went to claws and looked at the saved certificate. Claws reports the same error with the gmail's cert, bad signature, but in Claws you can accept and save the certificate regardless. I haven't had the time to check it out on my PC to see if it reports the same, or if this is limited to the IT's.

anidel 2008-05-29 13:17

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
W22 and still the status update doesn't seem to work correctly.

I marked an email in Inbox as "unread" (in Gmail, only configured account in modest).
Reloaded the Inbox in modest and it showed up Unread.
Read the mail thru Modest, it correctly marks it read (in modest), but not in Gmail (as expected).
Then I changed folder, but it still show Unread in the web version.
Changed back to Inbox in modest, and it still showed unread.
Even after a "reload" (even if this took quite a while to finish).

Trying to quit modest and see if it gets updated.
Yes, this time it did.

Moreover I think I found another bug I will post in bugzilla.
When I marked the mail unread thru the Gmail web interface, and hit "reload" in modest, it correctly marked the folder Inbox in bold with 1 new mail to read.
But the mail itself was still marked as read.
Thus I had the Inbox folder showing there was 1 mail to read, but no mail was actually marked as unread.
Only changing folder in modest and switching back to Inbox showed up the mail correctly marked 'unread'.

Moreover, sometimes, the Reload button takes way too much time to actually finish the process...

Uhm, I have marked another mail as unread (now I have 2 unread mails), the reload takes over a minute to finish its task, but it still shows 1 unread mail.

I am running it from Terminal (modest showui), but no error is written on console.

anidel 2008-05-29 13:19

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Actually it updated the unread status only after tapping on the right column.
I mean the status of the unread mail does show up in the UI only after tapping on the right column.

munky261 2008-05-29 17:29

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
i wish there were away, like the post said about claws... to just accept a bad cert. i really dont care , cause the email addy i had to start using since gmail wont work right on here (and other issues with modest) , i got it set not to use ssl. there should be an option not to use it in gmail.

alephito 2008-05-29 17:41

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
With my Gmail accounts I got the bad cert message only when I created the profiles. Never more.

hvacengi 2008-05-29 20:11

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alephito (Post 186949)
With my Gmail accounts I got the bad cert message only when I created the profiles. Never more.

I had a similar experience a few versions ago, but when I upgraded at some point it came back every time i started modest (and preventing automatic checking). At that time, I tried deleting the profile as well as uninstall/reinstall, but it didn't help. After reading your post, I uninstalled again, and this time manually deleted "/home/user/.modest". When I reinstalled, I got the warning at setup, but liked alephito I haven't seen the warning since.

qole 2008-05-29 22:12

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
I'm getting the Internal Error messages with 22 and I even got one ominous device full error. Thankfully that one only happened once...

I've given some pointers here about scrubbing your system of all traces of Modest in order to get a clean install.

qole 2008-06-09 04:06

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Here's a tip. If you are running an SD cloned multi-boot system, you have to maintain your partitions regularly. If your primary modest install is on a cloned SD partition and you are getting errors, try booting to flash and running fsck.ext2 on your partition. I had tons of errors, many of them in Modest-related files. It was so bad that after the fsck, I needed to wipe Modest off my system and re-install it. I think Modest does a lot of file activity, causing the files to corrupt.

Assuming your cloned OS partition is #2 on your card:

Quote:

sudo fsck.ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p2 -y

prk60091 2008-06-14 22:02

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
until the last update i could ctrl-w to close a window after update -no longer works
if this is intentional- why would anyone take that very useful feature out? if not intentional bug report submitted

qole 2008-06-18 04:11

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Any comments about Modest 24-1? Should I update?

anidel 2008-06-18 10:14

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Well I have uploaded it and I have to say it died with an internal error message only ONCE, while the previous versions used to crash more often to me.
It's becoming really usable now, in my opinion.

sjgadsby 2008-06-18 11:05

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 193109)
Well I have uploaded it and I have to say it died with an internal error message only ONCE, while the previous versions used to crash more often to me.

Interesting. On my tablet, the frequency of internal errors during background email checks has increased markedly.

alephito 2008-06-18 11:38

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 193113)
Interesting. On my tablet, the frequency of internal errors during background email checks has increased markedly.

Yes. The previous version was more stable for me too.

jjstewart 2008-06-18 12:01

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
add me to that list. Lots more errors this time around, and I did a fresh re-install.

tso 2008-06-18 12:56

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
while i dont use background checking or imap, i have noticed that modest seems to get "stuck" as running after i have closed it more often then the last version.

as in, i close it after checking mail, and i can still see it listed in the processes list or notice that when i open it again it do not open on the default account, but the account i was last looking at...

pixelseventy2 2008-06-18 13:51

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
If anyone else connecting to IMAP finds the alerts for new READ emails incredibly irritating, please can they vote for this bug.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3004

Wes Doobner 2008-06-18 21:31

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Anyone know why I can't seem to send emails from accounts when using POP access? I can read emails perfectly fine from Gmail and Yahoo! mail using POP access, but it appears the only time I can actually send email is when using IMAP access.

It's weird. The message is created, it states that it is going to the Outbox, and then says that message has been sent. But there is no trace of the message, either in the "Sent" folder or on Yahoo/Gmail.
---

Also I get that bug where previously read (and sometimes deleted) emails show up again as unread.

I don't know what the problem is with this and the built-in email program, I would have thought that an email program was much simpler to implement than this...

tso 2008-06-19 05:40

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
on that last one:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3081

for the first one, no clue...

anidel 2008-06-19 07:24

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 193113)
Interesting. On my tablet, the frequency of internal errors during background email checks has increased markedly.

Indeed, interesting.
It crashed the second time yesterday. And that's it.
It's up & running all the time. I change connection often (lab, home, phone, no connection) during the day.
It's been quite some days now. Two crashes. That's it.

UPDATE: WOW three crashes in a row !
I have found my tablet events blocked by one Internal error waiting for a confirmation. :/

Okay.. situation seems to be worse.

qole 2008-06-19 07:32

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Well, it certainly doesn't sound like the new version has really changed things in any significant way. I'll probably upgrade, because there doesn't sound like there's any new bugs. It just sounds like the old ones haven't really gone anywhere.

Wes Doobner 2008-06-19 17:49

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
What's weird to me is that the built-in mail app works with Yahoo and Gmail POP. It's just a really bad email client, and all indications are that Modest is going to replace the built in app anyway. So I would like it to work w/ POP accounts. Until then, I guess it's Modest for IMAP Gmail and web browser for Yahoo mail for me...

tso 2008-06-19 17:54

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
indeed, for pop a version of the existing osso mail app with the gui of modest would be all that would be required...

the osso one behaves normally on one of my two accounts, the same one that modest have problems after problems with (first it crashed when finding new mails, now it ignores any kind of header only setting).

add that to modest forgetting that i have deleted mails from a account, unless i go from it to the other (just closing modest is not enough), or is online at the moment.

qole 2008-06-25 17:21

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 107768)
It's a beta, of course it's going to be rough around the edges. This isn't the google definition of "beta", either. :rolleyes:

Well, it looks like Nokia decided to make Modest into a Google-style beta by releasing it with Diablo. I'm a little disappointed in that. As much as I like Modest, I don't think it's stable yet. I've already seen people complaining of Internal Error messages when trying to use the Diablo mail client...

Ironically, I've had very few problems with the RTCOMM beta that adds all of the Pidgin account types to your built-in accounts via Telepathy-Haze. But they didn't include that in Diablo...

Rider 2008-06-25 19:13

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 195702)
Well, it looks like Nokia decided to make Modest into a Google-style beta by releasing it with Diablo. I'm a little disappointed in that. As much as I like Modest, I don't think it's stable yet. I've already seen people complaining of Internal Error messages when trying to use the Diablo mail client...

Yep, useless for me.

Some emails (from Thunderbird/Windows) just show up as empty, no From:, no Subject, no content.

The old ossomail worked much better, even if it was such a simple app.

Disappointing!

yerga 2008-06-25 19:30

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 195702)
Well, it looks like Nokia decided to make Modest into a Google-style beta by releasing it with Diablo. I'm a little disappointed in that. As much as I like Modest, I don't think it's stable yet. I've already seen people complaining of Internal Error messages when trying to use the Diablo mail client...

Ironically, I've had very few problems with the RTCOMM beta that adds all of the Pidgin account types to your built-in accounts via Telepathy-Haze. But they didn't include that in Diablo...

My experience is completely different.

I am using Modest with Gmail IMAP, and it works really well. No more internal errors from I am using the pre-release diablo (and now with the official). I have an account with no many email (aprox. 5k). No crashes, it notify perfectly and so on.

Rtcomm have crashed randomly, it sometimes duplicate contacts, change the fields in the contacts app, and some other thing.
It isn't important to me, but in my experience Modest is more stable than Rtcomm.

qole 2008-06-25 20:22

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 195797)
My experience is completely different.

I am using Modest with Gmail IMAP, and it works really well. No more internal errors from I am using the pre-release diablo (and now with the official). I have an account with no many email (aprox. 5k). No crashes, it notify perfectly and so on.

Rtcomm have crashed randomly, it sometimes duplicate contacts, change the fields in the contacts app, and some other thing.
It isn't important to me, but in my experience Modest is more stable than Rtcomm.

I confess that I have had no Modest crashes since upgrading to Diablo. It seems to be working fine for me. But as I read the thread about Diablo's release, I saw people mentioning the "Internal Error" messages that we were getting in the pre-Diablo beta.

Funny, I never noticed Rtcomm crashing with error messages like Modest, but I haven't tried changing contact info or anything, I just chat with people.

alephito 2008-06-25 21:29

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
I had an Internal Error with Diablo. In fact, it was in the first mail check after the upgrade.

But since then, 24 hours ago, everything worked well.

Wes Doobner 2008-06-25 21:38

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yerga (Post 195797)
My experience is completely different.

I am using Modest with Gmail IMAP, and it works really well. No more internal errors from I am using the pre-release diablo (and now with the official). I have an account with no many email (aprox. 5k). No crashes, it notify perfectly and so on.

Rtcomm have crashed randomly, it sometimes duplicate contacts, change the fields in the contacts app, and some other thing.
It isn't important to me, but in my experience Modest is more stable than Rtcomm.

Modest worked well for me on Gmail IMAP as well, in beta/chinook and on Diablo. It's the POP access that is broken/non-functional.

alephito 2008-06-25 21:39

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
I don't have problems with Gmail, both POP and IMAP access.

Wes Doobner 2008-06-25 21:55

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alephito (Post 195868)
I don't have problems with Gmail, both POP and IMAP access.

Can you send an email from Gmail using POP in Modest? It never worked for me. In fact the messages I composed never even made it to the "Outbox".

I could always retrieve mail fine, in fact it took me a couple of days to realize that email messages weren't being sent. Why? Because a little right-corner dialog box would come up saying "message moved to outbox" ... only problem, it wasn't, and was never sent, and in fact they all disappeared into the ether somewhere, never to be seen again.

alephito 2008-06-25 22:01

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Yes, I can. Could it be some problem with your configuration?

Wes Doobner 2008-06-25 22:52

Re: Modest Beta for OS2008 Now Out
 
Maybe. I tried every configuration I could think of. I guess I'll play around with it this weekend again.


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