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fpp 2008-05-11 16:36

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
No, it wasn't...

Now, *this* is the moment I've been waiting for since January... the time when it's actually useful to have *two* N8x0 devices, so that one can remain the day-to-day mobile workhorse, and the other boldly march on toward dangerous and probably fatal experiences, rather than just stay at home waiting for its sibling's battery to go flat :-)

It's fun to have something *really* new to try out at last... Thanks to all the pioneers !

Bundyo 2008-05-11 16:38

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aisu (Post 180385)
(I really like the "Update All" option. Was that there before?

Nope, as well the refresh button.

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-11 16:39

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 180388)
Now, *this* is the moment I've been waiting for since January... the time when it's actually useful to have *two* N8x0 devices, so that one can remain the day-to-day mobile workhorse, and the other boldly march on toward dangerous and probably fatal experiences, rather than just stay at home waiting for its sibling's battery to go flat :-)

Booting from SD is cheaper. :p

fms 2008-05-11 16:39

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aisu (Post 180385)
Confirmed working on N810!

Is GPS performance better now? Any evidence of it using AGPS?

Bundyo 2008-05-11 16:41

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 180394)
Is GPS performance better now? Any evidence of it using AGPS?

Should be if we trust the changelog :)

Aisu 2008-05-11 16:43

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 180394)
Is GPS performance better now? Any evidence of it using AGPS?

I still cannot get a lock in my home, over two and a half minutes outside as well :(

qwerty12 2008-05-11 16:45

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
ok, I'm in the process of making a custom initfs. As we know, you cannot flash the diablo initfs so I'm making a chinook initfs with a custom logo and the ipv6 modules. if it works, I'm gonna replace bme so battery information in ftd works.

I've moved up from modder to hacker :cool: now :P

Aisu 2008-05-11 16:48

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Can you rig that for N810, as well?

qwerty12 2008-05-11 16:51

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Initfs is same between the 2 models. I'm having trouble with the custom logos but I've got the ipv6 modules put into chinook initfs. I'm gonna try bme in a sec.

Nice sig ;)

Benson 2008-05-11 16:58

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Run, Diablo, Run!

Is red the official color of Diablo (like Diablo -> Devil -> Hellfire -> Red? Or just for any prerelease software swipage, as in caught red-handed?)

Aisu 2008-05-11 17:01

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Just going with the flow :cool: I think Qwerty has rights to set the standard for this one.

qwerty12 2008-05-11 17:03

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Hehe,

does anyone know how to make a raw rgb file in the gimp?

(ok, Navi tells me you need latest unstable gimp, grabbing now)

Ok, I'll test and release initfs image tommorow. Tell you what, 1st one to post an image (no names on the pic) , I'll try and use that in the initfs ;)

Done:
- Insert ipv6 modules
Todo:
- Replace nokia image
- Replace chinook bme with diablo one.

Aisu 2008-05-11 17:32

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
http://tablethacker.com/qgn_indi_nokia_hands.jpg

{laughs maniacally}

Why not keep the red theme going? Along with the feat that is swiping early releases right from under our overlord's noses? ;) Anarchy!

Texrat 2008-05-11 17:34

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Don't you guys love the new update notification? I told the program that was one of the sweetest "little" enhancements ever.

qwerty12 2008-05-11 17:34

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Haha, lol, I'll make an edition with original logo too ;) ;p

@Texrat

Indeed :)

Texrat 2008-05-11 17:38

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 180337)
1) Can you describe that more?
2) Looks like fixed, my long-taps are working okay.

EDIT: @Mara: The bug you mentioned about not being able to change fullscreen state while loading pages in MicroB exists, but seems like MicroB is losing focus while loading - if you click in the window and press fullscreen - it works.

I just encountered that bug yesterday. I have even had trouble going to fullscreen after the page is completely loaded. If I submit it through the test program I'm involved in, it should get quicker attention. I will do so.

EDIT: submitted.

I have also noticed that standalone flash games refuse to aloow full screen during startup (specifically, Dicewars) but then allow it once the game begins. I will report this as well.

Benson 2008-05-11 17:44

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Faheem, you dropped a bunch of stuff from your sig to make room? Might I suggest the more concise "El primer Diablo". (And someone correct me & Google if that's not right...)

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-11 17:45

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 180417)
Don't you guys love the new update notification? I told the program that was one of the sweetest "little" enhancements ever.

Actually, a question about that. Will the repositories get refreshed in the background? If so, how often? Application manager seems to have lost its preferences dialog, and if refreshes don't take place in the background, the notification applet is damn near pointless.

Mara 2008-05-11 17:50

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 180388)
No, it wasn't...

Now, *this* is the moment I've been waiting for since January... the time when it's actually useful to have *two* N8x0 devices, so that one can remain the day-to-day mobile workhorse, and the other boldly march on toward dangerous and probably fatal experiences, rather than just stay at home waiting for its sibling's battery to go flat :-)

It's fun to have something *really* new to try out at last... Thanks to all the pioneers !

Maybe I should not reveal this... but that is the whole marketing plan at Nokia so that they can sell TWO devices to every user instead of one... Beat that Apple! :D :p

Texrat 2008-05-11 17:51

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 180422)
Actually, a question about that. Will the repositories get refreshed in the background? If so, how often? Application manager seems to have lost its preferences dialog, and if refreshes don't take place in the background, the notification applet is damn near pointless.

Not sure. I did submit a request for restoring manual refresh, though, based on rcadden's (tabletguru) input.

qwerty12 2008-05-11 17:53

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180421)
Faheem, you dropped a bunch of stuff from your sig to make room? Might I suggest the more concise "El primer Diablo". (And someone correct me & Google if that's not right...)

Yeah :)

I kept the best stuff, my application manager mod is moot under diablo unless i recompile it again ;)

I'm not so hot/keen on my Latin (?) :p :)

GeneralAntilles 2008-05-11 17:54

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 180425)
I did submit a request for restoring manual refresh, though, based on rcadden's (tabletguru) input.

We have manual refresh. It's that little rotating arrow button in Application manager. ;)

Bundyo 2008-05-11 17:57

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180421)
Faheem, you dropped a bunch of stuff from your sig to make room? Might I suggest the more concise "El primer Diablo". (And someone correct me & Google if that's not right...)

Maybe you meant El Pollo Diablo? :)

http://www.tentakelvilla.de/pollo/pollo.gif

Texrat 2008-05-11 17:57

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 180427)
We have manual refresh. It's that little rotating arrow button in Application manager. ;)

Hmm. The request was specific to the menu... eh, all they can do is slap me down. :D

hircus 2008-05-11 17:58

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
One explanation for the uncertainty surrounding apt-get upgrades from Diablo to the next release: even with Debian and Ubuntu, sometimes upgrades between different distributions go wrong. Other distributions like Fedora tend to suggest that you either upgrade from the install DVD, or do a clean install (to make sure that the right packages get installed, etc.).

So just because the Nokia developers can't guarantee yet that Diablo will be upgradable to Diablo+1 without reflashing, does not mean that individual Diablo components won't be upgradable (from several recent posts showing available updates, obviously they can)

Mara 2008-05-11 18:03

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 180394)
Is GPS performance better now? Any evidence of it using AGPS?

No, AGPS is not yet built in. Currently there is an early alpha AGPS application (Nokia internal only) in testing.

Bundyo 2008-05-11 18:08

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
@Texrat: In application manager - can you report a feature request? Like refresh button to be enabled on the main screen, not just in update and install.

Benson 2008-05-11 18:13

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Spanish; what I said was intended (& certified by Google language tools) to mean "The first Devil" (Diablo is Spanish for Devil). As for the chicken devil... interesting. But I like El Jersey Diablo better...

Anyway, I recommended how to change the repo, so that makes me...

Texrat 2008-05-11 18:26

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 180437)
@Texrat: In application manager - can you report a feature request? Like refresh button to be enabled on the main screen, not just in update and install.

That *may* be the one rcadden had me submit.

fpp 2008-05-11 18:27

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 180393)
Booting from SD is cheaper. :p

Very true, but also much too late for that sound line of reasoning, in my case (I didn't *intend* to end up like this, actually). So given the situation, I'll say it's safer to boot from separate devices :-)

PS: anyone tried it on a 770 running OS2008HE, yet ? :-)

Benson 2008-05-11 18:28

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Thinking about a bug thread; I'm not sure which forum it should go in; I guess OS2008 would be appropriate, as Diablo is "OS2008 Feature Upgrade" or something, right?

Texrat 2008-05-11 18:31

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 180445)
DIY!!!!
(was that too subtle? :p)

Really, I'm not sure which forum it should go in; I guess OS2008 would be appropriate, as Diablo is "OS2008 Feature Upgrade" or something, right?

OS 2008 section is appropriate IMO. Developers will work too I suppose.

Benson 2008-05-11 18:31

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Ah, Developers should work. Thanks, Bundyo!

fms 2008-05-11 18:39

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 180435)
No, AGPS is not yet built in. Currently there is an early alpha AGPS application (Nokia internal only) in testing.

Any hope of seeing it in the official Diablo release?

Mara 2008-05-11 19:05

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 180456)
Any hope of seeing it in the official Diablo release?

I don't think it makes to the first Diablo release. (But with SSU later updates are easy...)

Bundyo 2008-05-11 19:16

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 180471)
I don't think it makes to the first Diablo release. (But with SSU later updates are easy...)

Seems like you know when that release will be ;)

fpp 2008-05-11 19:52

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
It is just me, or has the the updates directory just been login/password protected ?

It happened just between the time I first accessed it, and the moment I tried to download the first file after looking around... just my luck :-)

qwerty12 2008-05-11 19:58

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
lmao. good job i mirrored it.

Aisu 2008-05-11 20:01

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
XD Really? They put a password on the Repo??

qwerty12 2008-05-11 20:03

Re: What do we know about Diablo (Maemo 4.1) ?
 
yep, it means no updates for us. i'm gonna make sure i release that initfs as we aint gonna see it from nokia for a while....


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