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tso 2009-06-18 18:57

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
could be that gparted did a swapoff before applying any changes...

bezeen 2009-06-18 20:10

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 297770)
could be that gparted did a swapoff before applying any changes...

I have edit my first post - and gparted did swapoff (i think) - theres a alternative to select swapoff under "Partion" :o

KTurbo 2009-07-07 05:36

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
I hope someone can help me with this. I've just installed Mer on my Smartq7 (yay for me) and is trying to make the wireless network to work. I follow the guide below the installation guide but when I type "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblklpl /media" (and password) in x terminal it sometimes give me information about <mount> and sometimes it tells me "mount: special device /dev/mccblklpl does not exist"

So what can I do and what should I do about it?

Matan 2009-07-07 09:53

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
it should be mmcblk1p1. After k and p there is the digit 1.

SD69 2009-07-07 11:08

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Thanks for the good work spent on Mer.

Any luck yet supporting the HW buttons? Is it just a matter of time or have you run into a closed blob or something?

suend 2009-07-07 12:06

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 297256)
The file

http://www.mt-system.ru/documents/s3....10_080822.pdf

contains the (chip related) information needed to write a 3D driver (chapter 42). Of course, you also need to know how to write OpenGL drivers.

This: "75.8M pixels/s fill-rates @133MHz (shaded pixels)"
Voodoo2: 90 MPixels/s

Sure it must be a fast as far as opengl es devices go but it wouldn't have much horse power any normal applications these days. There is no such thing as half done opengl driver - pretty much everything must be done or nothing works. Vertex and pixel shaders, uploading of textures, frame buffer and display setup just to name some bigger pieces. Maybe two months of work at best. At short glance that doc seems pretty complete but lacks instruction sets for vertex and pixel shaders(Programmable Shader S/W Developer’s Guide). Interesting? Yes. Would having opengl support do any good or be worth it? No.

Very nice looking gizmo though.

fredoll 2009-07-07 12:07

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Looks like Smart Q5 is now available at DealExtreme :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26366

price 151.51$
Shipping worldwide is Free ...

I already bought several items at DealExtreme and never had a problem with them.
Usually the item takes 3 weeks to arrive but it does arrive !

Fred

Matan 2009-07-07 12:34

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SD69 (Post 302547)
Thanks for the good work spent on Mer.

Any luck yet supporting the HW buttons? Is it just a matter of time or have you run into a closed blob or something?

Hardware buttons work, they are just not configured by default. You need to run a few xmodmap commands to get them to work.

I can provide more details when I get home in a few days, but it is not to complicated.

epage 2009-07-07 14:04

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredoll (Post 302557)
Looks like Smart Q5 is now available at DealExtreme :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26366

price 151.51$
Shipping worldwide is Free ...

I already bought several items at DealExtreme and never had a problem with them.
Usually the item takes 3 weeks to arrive but it does arrive !

Fred

I think Ive bought from them before, but I still love the accuracy of the product description, like that the 4.3" model has a 7" screen, GPS support, FM Transmitter, etc.

KTurbo 2009-07-07 20:44

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 302529)
it should be mmcblk1p1. After k and p there is the digit 1.

still tells me special device not found. Could it have something to do with its fat32?

Stskeeps 2009-07-08 12:44

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Since we have a locale selector now and a great set of en_US strings thanks to timeless:

http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/chinesemer.png

Stskeeps 2009-07-12 13:57

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Hmm, did DannyBiker's board die again? :P

Devilmandex 2009-07-12 20:14

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Would the default OS or MER be able to WINE? Would I be able to play Fallout on it (Or the second game)?

Munk 2009-07-12 20:21

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredoll (Post 302557)
Looks like Smart Q5 is now available at DealExtreme :
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26366

price 151.51$
Shipping worldwide is Free ...

I already bought several items at DealExtreme and never had a problem with them.
Usually the item takes 3 weeks to arrive but it does arrive !

Fred

I have bought three seperate times from them and have not had any problems. I'm also very pleased with the items I did buy as they worked as they were suppose to and are very inexpensive.

Benson 2009-07-13 15:56

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Devilmandex (Post 304068)
Would the default OS or MER be able to WINE?

No. You can't run 386 code on an ARM processor without emulation.

Quote:

Would I be able to play Fallout on it (Or the second game)?
No. Emulation is slow.

lma 2009-07-13 18:12

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Well, it could work on an x86 box and/or Virtualbox...

sun4384 2009-07-13 19:05

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Please help me make a decision between SmartQ 5 and N810.
I'll appreciate any comments, experience, or advice.

1. The picture of SmartQ 5 seems to suggest it has a microphone. Is this true? If so, can this device run the Skype client for calls?

2. Compared to N810, how long does the SmartQ 5's battery last (for example in case of Internet browsing or movie watching)?

3. N810 seems to have a good selection of programs, notably the mapper, vnc viewer, and various game emulators. What about SmartQ5? Does it also have such programs? If so, how do they compare to those in N810?

4. Is it possible to hookup a GPS device to SmartQ 5 and make it function like N810? If so, how convenient is it - the size of the GPS device, cable between devices, power supply to the GPS device, and the like?

5. Is the body of SmartQ 5 aluminum, or plastic? How durable do you think is it to everyday use, or dropping?

Matan 2009-07-13 20:27

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sun4384 (Post 304267)
Please help me make a decision between SmartQ 5 and N810.
I'll appreciate any comments, experience, or advice.

1. The picture of SmartQ 5 seems to suggest it has a microphone. Is this true? If so, can this device run the Skype client for calls?

I tried running skype by copying the binaries of skype and a few libraries (the ones not installable by apt-get). It resulted with "Illegal instruction fault", and I did not look into it further.

Quote:

2. Compared to N810, how long does the SmartQ 5's battery last (for example in case of Internet browsing or movie watching)?
Much shorter. There is no real power management in Mer on the Q5 at the moment. I did not use the original firmware enough to see if it does better.

Quote:

3. N810 seems to have a good selection of programs, notably the mapper, vnc viewer, and various game emulators. What about SmartQ5? Does it also have such programs? If so, how do they compare to those in N810?
A lot of programs from diablo/fremantle extras work
on Mer (there is not much difference between Mer on Q5 and N800 in this regard). There are also a lot of programs from Ubuntu that can be installed.

Quote:

4. Is it possible to hookup a GPS device to SmartQ 5 and make it function like N810? If so, how convenient is it - the size of the GPS device, cable between devices, power supply to the GPS device, and the like?
It is probably possible, though I don't know if it was actually done. You can connect to GPS by USB or BT. Sizes, cables, etc. depend on what you chose to use.

Quote:

5. Is the body of SmartQ 5 aluminum, or plastic? How durable do you think is it to everyday use, or dropping?
Plastic, does not appear to be very durable - but why would you plan on dropping it?

Benson 2009-07-13 20:40

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sun4384 (Post 304267)
Please help me make a decision between SmartQ 5 and N810.

I don't have a SmartQ, so I can't give much input on most of these, but if you're considering the SmartQ a plausible option, you should probably also consider the N800; with the N800, you save $50 or more (vs. the N810) by skipping the keyboard, get a D-pad on the face of the device where you can always use it, and get the full-capacity SD slots...

Quote:

4. Is it possible to hookup a GPS device to SmartQ 5 and make it function like N810? If so, how convenient is it - the size of the GPS device, cable between devices, power supply to the GPS device, and the like?
The usual route with N800s (before the N810, and for those still using them) was a bluetooth GPS, eliminating the cable issue. Size of standalone GPSes, whether BT or GPS, ranges from a large thumb drive up, but the common BT ones typically are around 1.5" x 2" and 0.8" to 1" thick; obviously, the size correlates with battery life. USB GPSes are also usable. All that should apply equally to the SmartQ 5.

As for functioning "like an N810", an external GPS should get better results, as the N810's GPS has a very bad reputation for slowness getting an initial fix. FWIW, of my two BT GPSes, one is about the same as my N810, the other one's somewhat faster, but none of the 3 are as slow as the N810 is generally reported to be. But given the level of complaints online, it's possible my N810 is just a reverse lemon.

sun4384 2009-07-13 21:01

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Thank you very much for great answers!

Indeed, SmartQ 5 seems not to be a suitable device for me, since running Skype is the single most important thing to do with one of these devices. I only hope Skype video call is made possible on N8x0 in the future...

Please correct me if I'm wrong. The reason for not wanting N800 instead of N810 is the size. I hope to carry the device everywhere, from bed to bus. Pocketability/portability is really important. (In this regard, I hoped to have SmartQ 5 since it's much lighter than Nokia ones.) Also the GPS thing will be valuable from time to time, and carrying extra GPS module is somehow cumbersome, and it's not likely to be with me every moment. I'm forgetful... On top of that, N800 seems to be found nowhere these days... The extra keyboard might be useful sometimes.

Matan 2009-07-13 21:14

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sun4384 (Post 304302)
Thank you very much for great answers!

Indeed, SmartQ 5 seems not to be a suitable device for me, since running Skype is the single most important thing to do with one of these devices. I only hope Skype video call is made possible on N8x0 in the future...

It won't. At least, it will be very surprising if it ever will.

brento 2009-07-14 21:59

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
i'm in the search for replacing my dying N800 screen. can the smartq 5 run meamo mapper? this is one of the reasons why i got the N800 for the GPS capabilities.

thanks for the help.

gerb 2009-07-15 21:57

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
So I have MER v14 running on my Q7. and I have the wireless drivers installed, I can see all the networks...but has anyone figured out why the WPA2 networks are greyd out and can't connect to them?

also, how can i get a USB keyboard to work?

Gerb

yukop4 2009-07-22 08:48

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerb (Post 304802)
So I have MER v14 running on my Q7. and I have the wireless drivers installed, I can see all the networks...but has anyone figured out why the WPA2 networks are greyd out and can't connect to them?

also, how can i get a USB keyboard to work?

Gerb

hi

i just bought a q7 and immediately had problems

the charging is acting up will not charge
and i had problems loading streamtuner and had to reflash with version 4

how has your experience been so far

vipulbhandari82 2009-07-24 07:57

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Hi,

I just bought a smartq7. I wanted to install mer on the SD card so i took the rootfs of 0.15 version and unrared to an ext3 partition on SD card. but i see boot folder has no kernel, so I am thinking what I did was totally foolish. I do not want to flash mer, I want boot option. I made changes in the menu.lst of version 4.0 smartq firmware.

I see all the installation instructions for smartq are for flashing only. Can anyone be kind enough to please post installation guide(step by step would be nice)

Thanks Guys

vipulbhandari82 2009-07-26 10:54

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bezeen (Post 294161)
Right now my SamrtQ7 is a brick...

dead - nothing - emty - black

if you want to use your gadget - look not at this site...

just download the lasted from

http://translate.google.com/translat...istory_state0=

update - not a brick anymore



Right now my Smartq7 is a brick too. what did u do to fix it ? Mine doesnt even show a green light or anything.

Stskeeps 2009-07-26 15:17

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
I have finally pinned down the WPA bug in Mer now. For those interested, the wifi driver forget to reveal it's WPA capabilities to

Grab http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/kernel-s...050509_all.deb and sudo dpkg -i kernel-smartq5-modules_2.6.24.7-smartq5-050509_all.deb

I might consider putting out a 0.15.1 for SmartQ, if success rates of this fix is high enough. Please spread fix to other forums, ideally mirror it.

Agent 770 2009-07-26 15:37

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
The SmartQ 7 is now available from DealExtreme for 218$ including free shipping. Here

Rebski 2009-07-26 18:10

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
My SmartQ 7 arrived a week ago. It functions fine, sorry to those who are having issues.

It is seriously in need of optimisation though and it is good to see that SmartQ are affording the Mer team positive assistance. At least that is what it looks like from postings such as "SmartDevices providing up to date kernel sources for us"
http://n2.nabble.com/Mer-Chatter-f2732813.html

I haven't tried Mer yet, just biding time to see how things shape up. How much specific feedback would the Mer team like I wonder?

I am not sure if I should wait on SmartQ firmware v5.0 or not. The recent V4.0 didn't seem to do enough. Screen performance is pretty poor on mine, touch sensitivity is very imprecise and sluggish and generally quite frustrating. To the extent that it is not encouraging me to use it.

The device itself has a reassuring solid build quality, apart from the flimsy prop stand that is. Compared to the N800 it is huge and heavy. Not to mention it is a bargain at $189.

Stskeeps 2009-07-28 10:01

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
WPA fix update:

SmartQ5 fix: http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...090727_all.deb

SmartQ7 fix: http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...090729_all.deb

gerb 2009-08-11 18:10

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 307170)


Both links are broken

tso 2009-08-11 19:27

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
http://download.opensuse.org/reposit...untu_9.04/all/

gerb 2009-08-11 20:09

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
here is the link for the workaround and files:

http://www.jiongtang.com/blog/html/s...1#comment-1036

vipulbhandari82 2009-08-13 07:55

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Hi guys a little help please. I have written two three times before but no body replied.

I had mer expanded in SD card in SMARTQ official OS but when i as accesing the files as root I accidently clicked on initramfs, the official OS suddenly went black and behaves this way since, I mean i am not even able to reset or flash it again, it does not respond to the buttons.


Help , help , help please

vipulbhandari82 2009-08-16 08:34

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
and we say linux can be more easily supported. thanks all of u guys for no help from ur side after all my posts.
Quote:

Originally Posted by vipulbhandari82 (Post 311437)
Hi guys a little help please. I have written two three times before but no body replied.

I had mer expanded in SD card in SMARTQ official OS but when i as accesing the files as root I accidently clicked on initramfs, the official OS suddenly went black and behaves this way since, I mean i am not even able to reset or flash it again, it does not respond to the buttons.


Help , help , help please


Stskeeps 2009-08-16 09:11

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vipulbhandari82 (Post 312123)
and we say linux can be more easily supported. thanks all of u guys for no help from ur side after all my posts.

Right, I did not answer because what you describe is not logically possible. You state you were in the official OS, had unpacked the Mer Firmware image into seperate parts (an unsupported method but nevertheless perfectly harmless). You clicked the initramfs.gz file, which is in fact not a gz file, but a uboot headered cpio archive gzipped, which at this point burnt out your hardware. Which is impossible unless you fell over a dd command, cpio extracted the result and then a solar flare killed your circuitry.

So, only logical explanation is a hardware issue - as the prelude for the error you described does not correspond with the outcome. And we can't help with hardware issues.

vipulbhandari82 2009-08-18 22:12

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
well appreciate your answer, but one my hardware is not bust. it shows green light keeps burning and hardware reset is not happening, and it is not reading the firmware files from the SDcard. Whether u believe or not thats what happened. I can post a video if u want to see or willing to help further.

Anyway thanks for your help.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 312126)
Right, I did not answer because what you describe is not logically possible. You state you were in the official OS, had unpacked the Mer Firmware image into seperate parts (an unsupported method but nevertheless perfectly harmless). You clicked the initramfs.gz file, which is in fact not a gz file, but a uboot headered cpio archive gzipped, which at this point burnt out your hardware. Which is impossible unless you fell over a dd command, cpio extracted the result and then a solar flare killed your circuitry.

So, only logical explanation is a hardware issue - as the prelude for the error you described does not correspond with the outcome. And we can't help with hardware issues.


duncanb 2009-08-18 22:26

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vipulbhandari82 (Post 312890)
well appreciate your answer, but one my hardware is not bust. it shows green light keeps burning and hardware reset is not happening, and it is not reading the firmware files from the SDcard. Whether u believe or not thats what happened. I can post a video if u want to see or willing to help further.

Anyway thanks for your help.

Is your problem in any way related to my posts in this thread?

http://www.smartqmid.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=89

Jaffa 2009-08-19 07:05

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vipulbhandari82 (Post 312890)
well appreciate your answer, but one my hardware is not bust. it shows green light keeps burning and hardware reset is not happening, and it is not reading the firmware files from the SDcard.

Why do you think your hardware's not bust, then? Not being able to hard reset and it not booting sounds like duff hardware to me. Perhaps this is the SmartQ 5's own WSOD[1]?


[1] The "white screen of death" is something that afflicted certain Nokia 770s. They'd become unbootable, only showing a white screen. It was a hardware fault.

Dimon8211 2009-08-19 09:33

Re: Moses SmartQ 5
 
Hello

I have Smart Q5. I tried MER 0.15 release booting directly from SD card (instruction on JT site). It is very fluent and convinient OS for such device as Q5, but haven't such important plugins like battery status, backlite changing, power off (not from CL)...
Which plugins will work from Maemo? Or may be possible to take some things from stock OS?
Also tried to make WIFI work on this device (according to Wiki), but without success. It shows "device no managed". In dmesg:

8686 sdio: sd 8686 driver
8686 sdio: Copyright HHCN 2009
mmc2:0001:1 failed with error -1

I hope Wifi prbm will be solved in 0.16
I tried 0.16test2 ,but no virtual keybord in login screen (known bug), so wait for future test version and ready to test.

Best regards,


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