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zerojay 2009-08-20 23:58

Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by danramos (Post 313838)
One bar for each Commodore SID channel playing chip music during menus? :)

You just gave me an idea.

pataphysician 2009-08-21 00:00

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 313836)
What are those 4 bars on the right lower corner ...

maybe like the canola player 4 square button?

daperl 2009-08-21 00:15

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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 313840)
Too small. That sort of thing is eye candy, and they would make it bigger.

Have you ever used Amorak? Many players have different size visualizer modes.

quipper8 2009-08-21 00:17

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I see from the screen shots that this maemo 5 apparently has a new calendar/tasks/notes PIM app. Does anyone have any more details on the origins or development of this app? I love my n810, but had a hard time using it for work day to day because of lack of serious PIM, so I am using an e71 mostly, but use n810 for couch surfing the web in the evening still. Thanks in advance.

Texrat 2009-08-21 00:35

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Originally Posted by dansus (Post 313812)
This is madness, according to an ex-Nokia employee's twitter, there's going to be all sorts of good things announced in September....

Not me! :eek: I swear!

bummer 2009-08-21 00:46

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Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 313508)
No, I was just wondering. :)

Well it was a pretty shitty comment and a smiley doesn't 'save' you.

nilchak 2009-08-21 00:59

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On the Maemo Map screenshot I see a weather Icon too alongside the POI and Routing icons.
Never seen a weather info integrated into any GPS application.

Does this mean this will fetch weather information for where we are on dictated by the GPS coordinates ? That's purty cool ! :)

Texrat 2009-08-21 01:14

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Originally Posted by bummer (Post 313851)
Well it was a pretty shitty comment and a smiley doesn't 'save' you.

Welcome to the forum! :D

vkv.raju 2009-08-21 01:32

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From twitter:
@eldarmurtazin So many questions about RX51, on monday will publish Q&A about device, strategy etc. Decide to publish mini at the same time. Tnx for q :)

Now, the wait is for Monday, the day that comes after the weekend :(:mad::eek:

ysss 2009-08-21 04:20

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 313793)
How else could you explain the popularity of the ipod touch?

That they have ipod (both name and software) in it?
That they have entered mobile gaming platform, viable competition against nintendo dsi and sony psp?

debernardis 2009-08-21 04:33

Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 313855)
On the Maemo Map screenshot I see a weather Icon too alongside the POI and Routing icons.
Never seen a weather info integrated into any GPS application.

Does this mean this will fetch weather information for where we are on dictated by the GPS coordinates ? That's purty cool ! :)

Nokia Maps (Ovi Maps?) 3.0 - that is to say the present version for the symbian os - already has weather info for your destination . It is a great application, believe me. I use it often and maps are updated, and it works quite easily.

Architengi 2009-08-21 04:42

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Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 313898)
Nokia Maps (Ovi Maps?) 3.0 - that is to say the present version for the symbian os - already has weather info for your destination . It is a great application, believe me. I use it often and maps are updated, and it works quite easily.


About Ovi Maps, the web app: http://maps.ovi.com
it is kind of slow... what do you think?
Also, the web app does not work on any other OS and browser combination then Windows/IE... how about Maemo/MicroB?

lma 2009-08-21 04:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 313855)
Does this mean this will fetch weather information for where we are on dictated by the GPS coordinates ? That's purty cool ! :)

Both Foreca & OMWeather do that on Diablo.

lma 2009-08-21 04:50

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Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 313899)
About Ovi Maps, the web app: http://maps.ovi.com
it is kind of slow... what do you think?

For "Ovi Maps is not yet available on UNIX" values of "slow" :-|

daveb70 2009-08-21 05:26

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 313836)
What are those 4 bars on the right lower corner ...

Not sure, but if you can see it, the area surrounding that bit is stamped over the top of the UI in a sense, making that element larger than it initailly appears, fwiw. Granted, it's still pre-release and may have nothing to do with anything/may be cleaned up in final. Or could there have been more to show (perhaps some text labels) and it was 'shopped and edited before he published his blog?

For being more fingertouch-centric, if it is an eq or vu meter or similar, it would seem it is either a minimized app/gadget that when touched will bring up the full app or it's simply meant to overlay and be viewed as is. (captain obvious award?)

fms 2009-08-21 06:47

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313896)
That they have entered mobile gaming platform, viable competition against nintendo dsi and sony psp?

No they haven't, not until they provide a usable dpad. :)

ysss 2009-08-21 07:06

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 313926)
No they haven't, not until they provide a usable dpad. :)

Well I don't know about little technical details like that ;)

But here's a quote from nintendo:

Quote:

"Nintendo Co Ltd. reported a 66 percent fall in quarterly operating profit on slowing demand for its Wii videogame console and a stronger yen, and stuck to its full-year forecast for a decline of 12 percent," Nathan Layne reports for Reuters.

"Nintendo has weathered the economic downturn relatively well thanks to the popularity of the Wii and its DS handheld player, which have catapulted it to the top of the global game market ahead of Sony Corp. and Microsoft Corp.," Layne reports. "But Nintendo expects its profit to fall for the first time in four years in the current year to March 2010 as the Wii's momentum slows and the company faces increased competition in the handheld business from Apple Inc's iPhone."

debernardis 2009-08-21 07:41

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Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 313899)
About Ovi Maps, the web app: http://maps.ovi.com
it is kind of slow... what do you think?
Also, the web app does not work on any other OS and browser combination then Windows/IE... how about Maemo/MicroB?

I can't even open it on firefox/linux. But the one running on symbian works a treat. I hope that the maemo version will do like that.

Architengi 2009-08-21 07:45

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Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 313934)
I can't even open it on firefox/linux. But the one running on symbian works a treat. I hope that the maemo version will do like that.

ovi maps on web does not work in firefox / windows or chrome. Yes the one in Symbian is nice, and it is native, so very fast. Finally seems that Nokia has scored again. Maybe N900 will be another score.

What about ovi store for Maemo? When will it be available?

fms 2009-08-21 08:05

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313928)
But here's a quote from nintendo:

Well, if they say so, but I kinda remember Nintendo products being children's toys. $400 iPhone with its 2-year ATT does not seem to fit that demographic very well...

ysss 2009-08-21 08:15

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Originally Posted by fms (Post 313942)
Well, if they say so, but I kinda remember Nintendo products being children's toys. $400 iPhone with its 2-year ATT does not seem to fit that demographic very well...

The more markets a device\platform can wedge into, the better.

zehjotkah 2009-08-21 08:36

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kids, please stop speculating if there will be devices with bigger screen, without GSM and so on...
JUST WAIT THAT FU&§$*# 2ND SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!

;-)

anidel 2009-08-21 10:05

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Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 313850)
Not me! :eek: I swear!

ahahahahaha :)
I keep smiling ... my colleagues wonder why :)

fun..

munky261 2009-08-21 10:22

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Has there been any word yet on if this will be availible at tmobile stores, or am I going to have to road trip to chicago again like I did for my N810?

zerojay 2009-08-21 10:45

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Originally Posted by munky261 (Post 313970)
Has there been any word yet on if this will be availible at tmobile stores, or am I going to have to road trip to chicago again like I did for my N810?

Honestly, that sounds like my kind of road trip.

Gorgon 2009-08-21 10:56

Re: First N900 Review
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Architengi (Post 313936)
ovi maps on web does not work in firefox / windows or chrome. Yes the one in Symbian is nice, and it is native, so very fast. Finally seems that Nokia has scored again. Maybe N900 will be another score.

What about ovi store for Maemo? When will it be available?

Ovi Maps on the web DOES work on Windows/Firefox but only in FireFox 3.0. In order to work correctly Nokia in their infinite wisdom created a plugin that only works on Mac and Windows and while Mozilla was busy updating to Firefox 3.5, which wasn't a secret, Nokia ignored this development and failed to update their plugin to work with 3.5. Get on the ball Nokia!!

I've had to downgrade all my Firefox installs to v3.0.13 to get Ovi Maps to work on my PC again.

Gorgon 2009-08-21 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 313898)
Nokia Maps (Ovi Maps?) 3.0 - that is to say the present version for the symbian os - already has weather info for your destination . It is a great application, believe me. I use it often and maps are updated, and it works quite easily.

How are you getting weather in Ovi Maps on your mobile device? I see no option for that on my E71. Or are you running an S60v5 device?

Bundyo 2009-08-21 12:18

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Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 313836)
What are those 4 bars on the right lower corner ...

Looks like a Canola-style options button, probably for an equalizer.

Bundyo 2009-08-21 12:18

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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 313976)
Ovi Maps on the web DOES work on Windows/Firefox but only in FireFox 3.0. In order to work correctly Nokia in their infinite wisdom created a plugin that only works on Mac and Windows and while Mozilla was busy updating to Firefox 3.5, which wasn't a secret, Nokia ignored this development and failed to update their plugin to work with 3.5. Get on the ball Nokia!!

I've had to downgrade all my Firefox installs to v3.0.13 to get Ovi Maps to work on my PC again.

Well, it works perfectly in FF 3.5 in Windows. And the plugin is required for 3D view and landmarks only.

Gorgon 2009-08-21 12:28

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Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 313990)
Well, it works perfectly in FF 3.5 in Windows. And the plugin is required for 3D view and landmarks only.

Since when? I've been getting compatibility issues since FF 3.5 was released. In there an updated plugin?

EDIT: Installed new program when I went there today so this is a recent fix. There's no excuse for this updated plugin taking as long as it did. FF 3.5 has been released since June 30th and there were a large number of release candidate builds that Nokia could have been working with.

YoDude 2009-08-21 12:41

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Originally Posted by bummer (Post 313851)
Well it was a pretty shitty comment and a smiley doesn't 'save' you.

Back off... The comment was prompted by the amount of "not an iPhone" negativity in not just this thread but others. (< that btw, could have been and was misinterpreted. That is why I asked. )

If you have a problem with me, take it somewhere else or ignore it.

If the purpose of this post was to draw attention to your other posts, well... shame on you. :eek:





***

Now back to the regularly scheduled program...

TenSpeed 2009-08-21 13:59

Re: First N900 Review
 
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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313928)
Well I don't know about little technical details like that ;)

But here's a quote from nintendo:

...hang on a minute, that's a quote from Reuters, NOT Nintendo. While Nintendo may be concerned about the iPod/iPhone, this quote only shows that the U.S. media is blind to non-Apple options.

The billion dollar question is, "why does the iPhone keep popping up in casual conversation in the media?"

The Nokia version is, "how can I get me some of that love???"

debernardis 2009-08-21 14:20

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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 313985)
How are you getting weather in Ovi Maps on your mobile device? I see no option for that on my E71. Or are you running an S60v5 device?

No, s60v3 here (Nokia E90). Just search an address, or select one of your favourite places, then in the pop-up menu select "show details" (should be like that, I have the Italian locale which says "mostra dettagli").
Provided that you're online, after some seconds you get a weather forecast for the next hours in the end of the screen showing address, lat/long and distance from the place you are.

MMMotors 2009-08-21 15:01

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 313928)
Well I don't know about little technical details like that ;)

But here's a quote from nintendo:

One of the most prominent billboards near the intersection of 101 and 87 in Silicon Valley looks to be selling the iPod Touch as a gaming device. Apparently Apple thinks they're a gaming platform.

But it goes back to Eldar's original lead-in - whatever OS comes next needs to be really scalable, it's going to have to be good in a lot of different devices, some of which haven't appeared yet.

sjgadsby 2009-08-21 15:21

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Originally Posted by MMMotors (Post 314026)
Apparently Apple thinks they're a gaming platform.

Yes, they do:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Joswick, VP of iPod and iPhone Product Marketing
There are already so many games and as we look at it, to us it really seems this is the future of gameplay. Whereas a lot of these devices [Nintendo DS and Sony PSP] are more in the past.


zerojay 2009-08-21 15:26

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Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 314034)
Yes, they do:

If iPhone games are the future of gaming, I'm going to stop playing videogames very quickly.

ysss 2009-08-21 15:33

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@zerojay: with cortex A8 + powervr SGX on board.. and some add-on like this:

http://smartech.blogetery.com/files/...ontrol-pad.png

The 3GS is already more powerful than the PSP or DSi, or even both of them combined.

Gorgon 2009-08-21 15:40

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Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 314015)
No, s60v3 here (Nokia E90). Just search an address, or select one of your favourite places, then in the pop-up menu select "show details" (should be like that, I have the Italian locale which says "mostra dettagli").
Provided that you're online, after some seconds you get a weather forecast for the next hours in the end of the screen showing address, lat/long and distance from the place you are.

Awesome, didn't know this existed. Once loaded under options you can select Full weather details and get 5-day forecast. Pretty cool.

debernardis 2009-08-21 15:53

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Originally Posted by Gorgon (Post 314042)
Awesome, didn't know this existed. Once loaded under options you can select Full weather details and get 5-day forecast. Pretty cool.

Omigosh, I don't have this! Please PM me some detail, i.e. how you get to 5-day forecasts. I don' think we can hijack this thread with symbian stuff.

zerojay 2009-08-21 15:59

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 314039)
@zerojay: with cortex A8 + powervr SGX on board.. and some add-on like this:

http://smartech.blogetery.com/files/...ontrol-pad.png

The 3GS is already more powerful than the PSP or DSi, or even both of them combined.

Doesn't matter if it's more powerful or not. I don't want all games to be dumbed down little 99 cent experiences - another reason to fight Apple and Nintendo.


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