Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I'd advise against installing it yet. I doubt it'll take long for the initial bugs to be worked out and the install process to be documented/streamlined though.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Show up automatically how? You need to add the new repository, manually install the enabler application, then run it. There's nothing automatic about the process, and no way to "accidentally" do it.

That's all the process is - there's no "compatibility test". There are currently issues if people are running non-standard OS components (modified hildon-desktop, etc) and some people are running into the usual disk space/conflict issues that happen with every firmware update, but that's it.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I also get all kind of strange problems like webpages half loaded and scripts that are not working. Also the minimize button on the bottom right didnt show up a couple of times while it should.

Mobile maps allready froze one time completely with no reason while loading, making the whole system crash.

I also mentioned some strange icon process wich was using 50% of CPU for a couple of minutes. this could indicate the power cunsumption mentions by a forum member earlier.

I would advise the people who make these updates to atleast fix something instead of break everything that can be broken.

It is not wise to install this at all.

@rob1n i dont have any modified hildon garbage on my n900

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Why did you install CSSU in the first place? On Wiki page, there is a clear statement that this is for those who are willing to help CSSU and there is a risk that not all parts are working, some features might be broken due to updates.

At least I see this an opportunity to help the community to bring improvements to N900. Even I do not fix or do coding, I try to do as much error hunting as possible. For sure I'll learn more.

Stop complaining!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

@Gusse

Yup.. I agree... I'm no coder/developer or anything but I think those people appreciate that an end-user type of person tests and voices out things that might be of concern especially of everyday usage. Different people will use it differently and that is where more bugs or fixes can be reported to people who CAN fix it in the next update.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I am a bit troubled here...
How can i check whether CSSU been installed? I have been reading this thread after installing the CSSU and I'm not having anykind of problems with my n900.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

The easiest way I can see is to check whether the mp-fremantle-community-pr package has been installed:
If that shows as installed ("ii" at the beginning of the line) and you don't have the "Community SSU" app showing up in the app launcher, then it should be all installed.

I'm also not seeing many issues (I ran the gconf fix for the shortcut keys, and Modest doesn't handle attachments properly, but that's it) so I wouldn't get troubled about that!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

All above maches so CSSU is up and running.
Then i must be one of the lucky ones who didn't got any problems(atleast not yet..) =)

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Not even the shortcut or bookmark problems I thought most users had suffered?

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

Odd I have sent and received messages with zero issues, including images and unknown attachments. Microb has some weird behavior, fortunately it's UI only, so that's cool.

E.g., sometimes the bottom bar is lacking the add bookmark and back button, allowing for a large address field. Frankly, I wish it were permanent. Bookmarking works via menu and I already have 2 ways to go back. Doesn't last though.

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

As I've commented on the bug: the attachments are sent fine, it's just than modest is using the incorrect MIME type for the message (multipart/alternative instead of multipart/mixed) so some mail clients (correctly) don't show anything other than the the first part (which is the message text).

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

I've had this since before installation of the CSSU, reckon it might simply be a MicroB bug or alternatively some app screwing with the UI.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Only once i got two browsers opened by bookmark, but I noticed now that email isn't working. Picture attachment plus text does not work at all..:(

Nothing else so far...

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

So far I have found only one bug; I normally use my phone book by just start typing persons name on desktop.

That doesn't work with CSSU, everytime I wanna search someone from phone book, I need first open phone book application.

Even my OC's were there after update... :)

BIG thanks for update!

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

That's fixed with the gconf command (search the thread for details).

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

i lost no functionality when updating to CSSU, apart from modded hildon-desktop

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

sorry for not knowing what those multipart/alternative/mixed means..

basically what I mean is that, when i try to send the attachments/pictures via n900, it doesn't get sent like how I receive mail sent from my laptop. I sent an email to myself via laptop and checked from the phone and it was fine...

more importantly, how then do we make it back to normal? thanks

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

An email message has a MIME type which indicates what the content is - for a simple email this is usally text/plain. A lot of clients nowadays use HTML instead though, in which case the MIME type would be text/html. However, to support older clients they can also send a plain text version alongside the HTML version. Now the overall message is tagged as multipart/alternative - multipart because there's more than one section in the message (each of which will have its own MIME type) and alternative because the sections should be just alternative versions (so the client can just pick the best one to show). The sections will then in turn be tagged as text/html and text/plain respectively.

If you're using attachments, the MIME type for the overall message should instead be multipart/mixed - there's multiple parts again, but they're not just alternative versions of the same message.

The version of modest in the CSSU gets this wrong, so although the message still actually contains the attachments, many clients will fail to show them (as they think they're just different forms of the same message).

Yeah - that's how it shows up. If you use a different client then you may see the attachments - modest will show them fine for example. That's why some people just aren't seeing this problem - their client shows all the parts, irrespective of whether they're just alternatives.

It needs a new modest release including a patch for this, or a rollback to the standard PR1.3 version.

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

One question, is there any middleware upgrade in this CSSU?

If not, it would be great for next releases if some stuff like Pulseaudio, dbus or bluez could be updated without breaking applications.

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

Very odd. It never happened to me before CSSU. I think I found a pattern. It happens mostly the first time. Just like only the first link from desktop lets the bookmarks window behind. All subsequent links work fine.

Can I reliably reproduce this bug? I like it :)

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

how to revert to the cssu hildon-desktop if we've tried to patch it with other HDs?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

You'd need to remove any pinning (from /etc/apt/preferences) for hildon-desktop, then a simple "apt-get install --reinstall hildon-desktop" should do the job (assuming you've not added external repositories with higher-versioned hildon-desktop packages - if you have then you'd need to either remove these repositories or pin the CSSU version of hildon-desktop).

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

@Rob1n

erm... went to xterm

root
Package: hildon-desktop
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 600

doesn't work?

tried to run:
root
cd /etc/apt/preferences

couldn't find... could only get up to cd /etc/apt

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

/etc/apt/preferences isn't a directory, it's a file - you need to create/edit the file (as root) and add (probably - I've not tested this):

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

are there any hopes of getting a portrait virtual key board something that's like the one in the Opera browser? i really like the way it has been handled.

P.S.
I did not enjoy using FastSMS or FastSMSevo so this request. Sorry but personal preferences! :)

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

so lets invent wheel again! Have you formulated your suggestions and ideas to fastsms developer.He might actually listen.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I'm getting the PC suite message, yet I have 61 MB free on my rootfs, what could possibly cause this?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

One or more existing packages installed on your phone could be conflicting with the CSSU.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

NOT A BUG. i apologize if i sound a bit brash, but this thread is becoming overwhelmed with people who clearly should not be TESTING these packages. that's right, this, as stated in the disclaimer, is for people who want to TEST potentially unstable packages, not for people who can bother doing any research into what they are doing. this thread had become absolutely littered with complaints about non-issues like, "ohhh...my ctrl + backspace doesn't work anymore..." over and over again, and by the way the answer to this can be found on pages 7, 16, and 18, or in Matan's documentation found at: http://my.svgalib.org/repo/Modified_Hildon_Desktop.html. please keep your comments, questions, and suggestions to issues of relevance so the developers don't have to wade through pagers of mindless banter in order to get actual constructive feedback on their already difficult work. if you can't be troubled with troubleshooting, don't test developmental software. be patient, cool your jets, when all the kinks are worked out and it's n00b friendly i promise you the developers aren't going to keep it to themselves.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Any idea on how to find the culprit besides having to uninstall everything?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

Well, you might tell us, what you read in the details of your application manager, the crystal balls over here are not showing anything. ;)

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I've seen a full /tmp cause inexplicable problems for apt (and therefore HAM and FAM). That's probably rebooting sometimes fixes things.

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

exactly.

and all it takes to be an tester instead of asking silly questions and littering threads is to know two things:

1. http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU
(general page)

2. http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/QA
(buglist)

and if you have some problems, go to #2 and see if it can be found there. if not, go to bugzilla and file a bug!

when I found out that shortcut keys weren't working, first thing that crossed my mind was: "has someone already reported the bug?", not "help me it not works!!!!"

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

I just read that I need to use the PCSuite, that's all. Nothing gets added to the log or anything. I wish I could tell you more, but I can't. :(

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

You need rootsh installed for this to work[not the community update, but the code below].
Please show the output of

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

A regular and reliable poster on the Nokia discussions website is suggesting that he has been receiving regular updates since installing CSSU however I cannot see they have been any updates on my phone, or any reference to them on this thread.

Have I been missing the updates? If so how do I get them on my N900 as CSSU repositry still seems to enabled on my phone?

http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/...es/td-p/905693

I have seen around 8 updates for various apps already running on my phone in th last coulpe of days, which from past experience is an high number, but I assume this is just a coincidence and not related to the CSSU?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

have you tried the other button in the prompt where you have a checkbox to agree that "nokia isn't responsible for blahblahblah"?

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 

when i got the message about using pc suite it was because i was using maemodder and some of its modifications, i restored all settings back to default via maemodder and the install worked perfectly after that.

i'm receving updates and the only bug i have is already known - web bookmark issue.

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

new update! what were the changes eh? can't see it in the changelog...

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 

Hey!

This new update system is very welcome, but I ran the installation and the first after the upgrade ongekmiin.

Normally (before the upgrade) when you pressed the number key on your desktop so you received directly from the field which was able to write the phone number and when you pressed the letter to the address book opened in the names starting with the letter.

Does anyone else have a similar problem and a solution is found.