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kai_en 2012-03-18 15:17

Re: Ebuddy XMS is out now
 
Nokia push notification is really really poorly implemented on N9, so many work needed to make it work, i thanked god that my push mail doesn't run through nokia server

somedude 2012-03-18 15:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kai_en (Post 1181074)
Nokia push notification is really really poorly implemented on N9, so many work needed to make it work, i thanked god that my push mail doesn't run through nokia server

No kidding, as big corporation as nokia is and doing the same thing as they were doing for last 2 decades one would assume they would have this working fluid but alas nope./

TMavica 2012-03-18 16:08

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Ebuddy stopped working, no data connection

somedude 2012-03-18 16:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1181091)
Ebuddy stopped working, no data connection

Try this, this worked for me

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noztradamus (Post 1181060)
Didn’t have to re-flash. I found another way and now the app its working again, first I uninstalled the app then using file manager went to /home/user/.local/share/data and delete eBuddy folder. Then I installed the app again and it worked without any trouble.


Aleksandra 2012-03-19 08:56

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Hi all,

we're sorry for the weekend trouble with connection.
Do I understand right that now everything is working fine in terms of sending/ receiving messages?

Thank you,
Aleksandra

somedude 2012-03-19 17:54

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working now, but we MeeGo user are in a serious need of an update to this particular app.
this has so much unrealized potential that we user would like to utilize, like sending of multimedia messages, got a chance to play with the ios xms over the weekend and that one is leap years ahead of MeeGo version.
one thing you might want to ask your management team is to look into a VoIP feature added to this app similar to viber then no one can beat it, with its cross platform functionality and feature sets like that

Hariainm 2012-03-19 20:54

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ok, it works now. I tried the "restore combo" (nokia account + delete app + remove files) and everything is fine again (push notifications, send and receive)

tachi 2012-03-20 07:14

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we just want an update ;(

youmeego 2012-03-20 09:57

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is the app written by only one programmer in ebuddyxms company?

SamGan 2012-03-20 10:57

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Maybe not even full time. :mad:

souseh 2012-03-20 11:38

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We really need an update as soon as possible. This applications's problems are starting to be very annoying.

ejasmudar 2012-03-20 12:36

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Ok, I'm not able to register the app after reinstalling it. I'm getting stuck in a screen saying success after logging into Facebook. Can somebody help me out with this?

kai_en 2012-03-20 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 1181922)
Ok, I'm not able to register the app after reinstalling it. I'm getting stuck in a screen saying success after logging into Facebook. Can somebody help me out with this?

please refer to this post for solution http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=273

Aleksandra 2012-03-20 15:41

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Dear all,

we are sorry for the issues you're having currently with Meego.

We're working across several new platforms, including S40, S60, Windows Phone 7 and also Android, iPhone and Blackberry. This involves a lot of work and, as you all know, Meego is only one phone and this platform is not going to be expanded in the future.
Consequently, the development for Meego goes slower than for other platforms, but we're working on it.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Best,
Aleksandra

SamGan 2012-03-21 00:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra (Post 1181987)
Dear all,

we are sorry for the issues you're having currently with Meego.

We're working across several new platforms, including S40, S60, Windows Phone 7 and also Android, iPhone and Blackberry. This involves a lot of work and, as you all know, Meego is only one phone and this platform is not going to be expanded in the future.
Consequently, the development for Meego goes slower than for other platforms, but we're working on it.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Best,
Aleksandra

Aleksandra, if the eBuddy team doesn't have the resource to give proper attention to MeeGo why not make the code open source and let the community improve it? This is the way Mozilla handled Firefox for MeeGo and now we have very good working version of Firefox due to the effort of the community.

jalyst 2012-03-21 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra (Post 1181987)
Dear all,

we are sorry for the issues you're having currently with Meego.

We're working across several new platforms, including S40, S60, Windows Phone 7 and also Android, iPhone and Blackberry. This involves a lot of work and, as you all know, Meego is only one phone and this platform is not going to be expanded in the future.
Consequently, the development for Meego goes slower than for other platforms, but we're working on it.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Best,
Aleksandra

@Aleksandra

So basically in December (Jan?) you guys were just lying as-to-what your aims were?
Never did you say that it'd get much less developmental priority in x months...
Back then you assured us it'd reach feature parity with Android/iOS w/the 2nd major release.
You already have one in the Nokia Store, we're just waiting on that next major release.
There's was some features that needed to be added, & then it would be at parity.

ejasmudar 2012-03-21 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1182295)
@Aleksandra

So basically in December you guys were just lying as-to-what your aims were?
Never did you say that it'd get much less developmental priority in x months...
In Dec you promised it'd reach feature parity with Android/iOS w/the 2nd major release.
You already have one in the Nokia Store, we're just waiting on that next major release.
There's was a few features that needed to be added, & then it would be at parity.

Dude, chill. Its much better when a representative is being honest with us rather than fake promises and hopes (remember liveprofile?).

SamGan 2012-03-21 13:12

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First Peregrine, now eBuddy wants to abandon us. (sigh) Who will be the next Brutus?

Zoxir 2012-03-21 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SamGan (Post 1182340)
First Peregrine, now eBuddy wants to abandon us. (sigh) Who will be the next Brutus?

Nokia??? :D:D:D:D::D:D

almamo 2012-03-21 14:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aleksandra (Post 1181987)
Dear all,

we are sorry for the issues you're having currently with Meego.

We're working across several new platforms, including S40, S60, Windows Phone 7 and also Android, iPhone and Blackberry. This involves a lot of work and, as you all know, Meego is only one phone and this platform is not going to be expanded in the future.
Consequently, the development for Meego goes slower than for other platforms, but we're working on it.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Best,
Aleksandra

Hi Aleksandra,

First thank you very much to keep us updated here on maemo.talk an other websites - I think that's something we all should appreciate. Most loyal XMS users have been very patient and also can mainly understand decisions your team make. Still, there are things which are not comprehensible.

I'm started to use ebuddy XMS on iOS shortly before I bought the N9 & because you announced it. Since then I'm a daily user but of course anything else than happy about the development.

I'm the founder and one of the authors of the new www.allboutn9.info website and we daily get questions about WhatsApp or XMS on our website, email or Twitter. The interest of many N9 user is incredibly huge in such a messaging application. I would love to recommend XMS to those people, but the actual version is just a disappointment to most of them.

I can understand that the N9 has a lower priority than others, but you should see a new N9 user much more valuable than f.e an iOS or Android one. Why?

I'm in the age and social environment where most of my contacts use WhatsApp (which is without question the leader in this category of application). If I ask an iPhone user about XMS, simply nobody knows it and cares about it (i don't say It's globally this way). On the other side you have N9 users who instantly would use XMS if a satisfying version is available. I already ported most of my contacts to XMS and some of them even started to use it with other people since they prefer it - multiply this with most N9 users.

XMS is a great product and even ahead of it's biggest competitor (for many reasons, like WebXMS). But that competitor is just so dominant that it will be hard for you to get the deserved attention.

Even though the MeeGo Harmattan might not be continued it's now your opportunity to win new, valuable and future loyal customers - but what you do is the opposite, you "scare" them away. Just have a look at the reviews of XMS on Nokia Store. It's disastrous - a typical user doesn't care if it's beta or not (or doesn't even know what beta means). What they see is a very uncompleted messenger and they won't come back that fast or won't even try it out...

In case a community-made WhatsApp client really will be published, none of those N9 users will even think anymore about XMS. I hope it won't be this way because I'm not a fan of the mentioned application above and would love to keep using XMS - but why all the efforts if I don't have more than a beta-version (which also could be called alpha-version...) by myself?

The actual XMS not only doesn't works reliable, it also misses many basic features. How should we make XMS more famous if we can't even invite new users with an integrated function? An option to add users isn't there neither (except if they already have XMS and are stored in my Contacts or Facebook).

Again I can understand that the number of MeeGo users is rather small, but they should still have a respectable big value for you. What we want is finally something like a final version - nobody cares if updates won't come as fast as on other platforms.

I hope my posts won't be just empty words. Again thank you for communicating with the community and allowing us N9 owners to use your application.

Aleksandra 2012-03-21 14:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by almamo (Post 1182375)
Hi Aleksandra,

First thank you very much to keep us updated here on maemo.talk an other websites - I think that's something we all should appreciate. Most loyal XMS users have been very patient and also can mainly understand decisions your team make. Still, there are things which are not comprehensible.

I hope my posts won't be just empty words. Again thank you for communicating with the community and allowing us N9 owners to use your application.

@Almamo

Thank you for the comment and for spreading the word about XMS within Meego community.

Again, I want to stress that we're not ceasing Meego development, it is just taking more time than we originally planned.

We strive to bring more and more features to XMS across all platforms, but it takes time, especially, with all the platforms we support. We do believe that the baseline of this application is communication and messaging functionality is out there for everyone, while media sending and groupchat are coming soon.

Be sure that your message has been heard and we hope you stay with us and follow our news on future developments. Your feedback and questions are always welcomed, you can leave them there or write me a personal message whenever you want.

Best regards,
Aleksandra

almamo 2012-03-21 15:47

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@ Aleksandra

Thank you again for this helpful answer and understanding my post. I can totally understand how it takes much time to develop XMS for so many platforms. You can proudly say that XMS is the first and only true multi-platform messenger of it's kind :)

Good luck and all the best for your amazing application (on any platform). I'm very looking forward for further Meego releases.

jalyst 2012-03-21 16:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ejasmudar (Post 1182319)
Dude, chill. Its much better when a representative is being honest with us rather than fake promises and hopes (remember liveprofile?).

Sure, it just would've been nice if that forthrightness was there a few months back.
To get an idea of what I'm taking about, have a trawl of the thread that used to be active at FMC.

jalyst 2012-03-21 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by almamo (Post 1182375)
Hi Aleksandra,

First thank you very much to keep us updated here on maemo.talk an other websites - I think that's something we all should appreciate. Most loyal XMS users have been very patient and also can mainly understand decisions your team make. Still, there are things which are not comprehensible.

Expressed well by Almamo and we've all said it before....
The iOS/Android clients basically have feature parity w/Whatsapp, have for some time, but people haven't been shifting over in significant no's.
Getting a clear technical/popularity lead on one platform (even if it's market-share's miniscule) can be pivotal, & have a flow-on effect to others.
Which means they're now probably focusing on WP & other platforms that are more marginalized than iOS/Android (not including Maemo6) :(

SamGan 2012-03-22 00:53

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Alexandra, can you give a thought to my suggestion to open source eBuddy for Harmattan? The main appeal of an IM is cross-platform inter-operability and you'll be gaining one platform for nothing. Although you said you need more time, there is a limit to users' patience and you may lose the whole Harmattan user base if eBuddy isn't updated soon.

MI3000 2012-03-23 17:58

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My XMS is having a lot of trouble with handling more conversations at once. sometimes I have to restart is cause it won't react anymore, maybe something that can be helped in the next release whatever the cause.

XMS is really a great program though and when it works, whatsapp is not one of my priorities anymore.

tachi 2012-03-27 20:06

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The app is really great it just needs some options like add pin , change display pic , and make the app runs a little bit faster and add a landscape mode would be great and emotions and sends pic , rec ,video and stuff u know we have waited for long time and the n9 community has lot less apps than any other platform so plz aleksandra make it faster we really need it

afaq 2012-03-29 13:50

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A few things that have started to bug me about XMS - wonder if they have already been addressed in the past 35 pages.

1. Why does my music stop when I receive an message on XMS.
2. Message window starts to act unpredictably after a short time. All my messages in the window seem to move to the top and not in the order they have been sent by me and my XMS contact. Result is I can see all their messages in sequence but my replies to them are somewhere else only visible if i scroll up.

UnlimiteD3k 2012-03-31 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 1185593)
A few things that have started to bug me about XMS - wonder if they have already been addressed in the past 35 pages.

1. Why does my music stop when I receive an message on XMS.
2. Message window starts to act unpredictably after a short time. All my messages in the window seem to move to the top and not in the order they have been sent by me and my XMS contact. Result is I can see all their messages in sequence but my replies to them are somewhere else only visible if i scroll up.

1- xms currently uses system sound instead of profile sound volume
2- i experience something similar, the read indicator does not sync to the N9! Which makes me believe the version has conversation sync issues

I use xms on web, BlackBerry and N9
even though i want to use it on the N9, the bb version is more convenient as it is now.
they're both beta versions though

afaq 2012-04-02 08:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 1185593)
A few things that have started to bug me about XMS - wonder if they have already been addressed in the past 35 pages.

2. Message window starts to act unpredictably after a short time. All my messages in the window seem to move to the top and not in the order they have been sent by me and my XMS contact. Result is I can see all their messages in sequence but my replies to them are somewhere else only visible if i scroll up.

To illustrate my point - see screen shot. This is becoming a real pain as my messages move up and down throughout the chat - check out the time stamps.

UnlimiteD3k 2012-04-04 12:58

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@Aleksandra , can we get an update on when to expect a new release?

Nad 2012-04-11 00:55

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On the off-chance, I sent feedback to the XMS folk via the application asking about group chat and the ability to send and receive media and I was pleasantly surprised they took the time to reply:

Quote:

Thanks for writing to us, and for all your suggestions. You may be happy to know that much of this is in development, or at least being considered. We wish to being Meego in line with our Android and iPhone apps, which already have group chatting and video/picture sharing. We will do our best to get these features to you! Have a great day.
As much as people want WhatsApp due to its popularity, imo the fact it is being reversed so a custom client can communicate with their servers combined with the fact their messages are sent unencrypted really puts me off it.

Ofcourse one must get their social group to jump from Whatapp/Kik but when XMS deliver, I will try my utmost to get my social circle to move to XMS as long as the client is stable and works how it should because these guys are offering the only TRUE multi-platform IM service and are not brushing us aside unlike other devs e.g. Kik is coded in Qt but they don't want to offer a Meego port.

youmeego 2012-04-14 00:46

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update please or i will buy iphone to use WHATSAPP

kai_en 2012-04-14 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1191864)
update please or i will buy iphone to use WHATSAPP

please buy iphone and save maemo.org from all these whining babies. Suddenly the community is filled with whinning babies, i am seeing it here and i am seeing it in the whatsapp port thread as well. You need to realise that developing for multiple platform is really resources stretching, especially for small to mid sized companies, seeing the meego harmattan is a small community, it is realistic to be aware that we will naturally be the least of their focus, at this point i am quite happy with ebuddy and really grateful if they can iron out the bugs before implementing anything new.

MI3000 2012-04-14 05:44

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I understand some of these 'babies' cause I too find it so very difficult to have patience, I however don't go around posting that I will switch phones when they don't work harder.
I don't believe they would give a damn if you switched phones and rightfully so.

We are all waiting, we are all excited to see if and when Ebuddy delivers.
Unfortunately as Kai pointed out we Meego users are a minority, forgotten by many.
I for one am very happy that there is a company out there who has not given up on us and is working hard to make the Meego expierience complete!

For now, we wait!

TNL 2012-04-14 08:56

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I agree with both kai_en and MI3000, for a small or mid-size company a smaller community like this isn't their top priority, so I am gratefull eBuddy is out there.
Nevertheless I would love to see some minor update solving the music stopping bug (which I find quite annoying). Haven't experienced the messing up of the messages (yet), but this also seems like a serious bug to be solved soon.

ADRENALINE 2012-04-26 09:26

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new beta's for other OS's are going out lets hope we have one in the upcoming few days for MEEGO :D

TheTranceGamer 2012-05-07 01:53

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Hey-
I Previously downloaded/installed the app, later on uninstalled. Now that I've reinstalled it, fixed the problem with push notifications by deleting my Nokia account and adding it again-

ICan't find the app icon on the app list. :| What?:confused:

coopere 2012-05-07 03:04

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Installed it as soon as I saw it. Got most of family to install it. They got BlackBerry, iPhone and WindowsPhone. Even got a contact from Indonesia. It's cool in the sense that we share a pin and not your phone number, so you have your privacy, unlike whatsapp. I think it will become very popular soon.

Just waiting for an update that will bring us group messaging and features to match Android and iOS

UnlimiteD3k 2012-05-07 04:12

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my blackberry just got groups group messaging recently, when will the meego version get some love?


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