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considering i do not find the need to attack anyone to get my point across or behave in a malicious manner for no good reason other than to act childish and pathetic, i do not see the problem lays with me.

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Great point. You are free from any responsibility. You passed the test.

Most users probably see themselves in the same manner. But who is responsible then. Can't be me since I only post in maximum 4 threads. Where others already stepped out of the bounds. Must be some unknownevil force...

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Nah... no evil force...

It's mostly those who post nasty / insulting / derogatory or sarcastic comments that are at fault.

It's a shame that this thread in particular and so many of the posts / comments within seem to be letting down the whole of TMO.

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Ok...

So the guys hunting estel+the guys cheering the hunt +Estel + me +you. (Tried to point out the same as you just did early on) and some other trolls.

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No one is 'hunting' @Estel, he is attacking people if they disagree or is of a different opinion than him. Especially if he thinks he's on the right side of the fence, wich he seems to think/believe all the time. He conducts himself without tolerance and without empathy and can only see one side -> his own. That's narrow minded.

Regards Dousan...

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I'm sure he sees it in another way. Who is right?

I say you are both wrong. Since non of you could give in and throw in the towel.

This is the mindset in this thread:
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The majority would see who is who in pressure situation, it's when people don't have time to put a mask on. I think at this point this was maximum we could do. And I don't see for now any point to continue, as it wouldn't lead anywhere. It's hard to explain someone who doesn't even try to think about it and changing subjects or going in personal attack. And as he was removed from Council Chair and got his "punishment" already, it wouldn't lead anywhere now to try to get him out of council.

So now it's the time everyone learn a lesson, and i'm now talking about argue, but next council who would know not to make same mistakes, and it's not only about CA, but reaction and actions as well(hardly to believe though that we would have council soon at all, with Nokia situation). We also learned who is who on personal levels, and than sometimes people turned out different what we thought.

And i'm not poining now, as i think there are people who think i was troll all the time, and it's their right to judge, on other hand a lot of people would think they say real faces of other people, while they thought of them different.

Now "Good day!" (c) Fez

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how comes then that his fellows from the Council decided to remove him from the Council Chair?

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IF this is a feeble attempt to make everyonbe happy then it will not work.

He should be removed from council on a vote and also the device he "awarded" himself along with the acceptance of the rest of the council members should also be taken back from him, likewise all devices that have been "awarded" to the council.

This is a community that does not get any input whatsoever on or about it's council.

Something is very wrong with all of this and the procedure council are using.

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I do feel strongly that a vote should be opened up to the whole community regarding the serious matter that is being debated on this thread firstly for the realisation from the whole community of the actions this current council have and are undertaking.

This community needs to be sorted out especially the rules of intervention by the whole community when a voted council has done wrong, firstly every member needs to have some input on this and other matters that are clearly dogging this whole community.

Threads that have input from the community should NEVER be allowed to be closed down by a moderator in an attempt to justify and quell any opposition to actions by themselves and council.

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Internal Power struggle :)

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abill,

the other members of the Council acted to remove Estel from his position as primus inter pares.
that position went over to SD69.
the decision was based on Estel's immature posts and general behavior.
if you wanted a N9 or N950 freebee, you should have applied for one.
Community Award is, as the name suggests, an award for unusual contributions to the community.
the Council is elected more or less on the basis of merits, thus ppl in the Council also have already made even before getting to the Council considerable contribution to the Community.
being in the Council in itself, as those threads alas prove is anything but a walk in the park.
the CA devices have been dealt out.
end of story.
we have, as N9(50), N900, N8x0 or possibly even 770 owners more present matters to look into then chipping over a few freebees.

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I aknowledge your post in full but still have the same thoughts regardless and incidently i will never buy or own another Nokia/Microsoft product again, i personally think the whole issue will end soon for this community and it's future because of my previous post on the "Migrating to Community-driven Infrastructure - Step 1: Inventory" thread.

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Even I have to say wow...

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whatever you say :p
:D

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Thread has lost all usefulness.