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Android_808

2013-01-19 23:59

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

as stated before, the only reason I occassionally ask the question about updating kernel is to see if their is a way to simplify the process a bit. Some of the 3.x series kernels (3.2 iirc) receive longterm support so trying to rebase around them would bring a kernel with fixes coming from wider community, rather than just you guys having to find and backport them.

for this to actually be worth the effort though would require all drivers etc to be mainlined/centralised? so the devs here, sailfish, debian etc can all contribute to the same codebase.

projekt

2013-01-21 15:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Hi, is it possible to keep the phone charging for several days?
I charged my phone with bqCharger but after 2 days of charging the battery was empty, even tough it was plugged in all the time.
I was hoping, that it would continue loading automatically, but somehow charging stopped and did not continue again.
Is that normal?

maximilian1st

2013-01-21 18:47

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Hi,
I'm not sure if this is the right thread, as the question above anyway but it remembers me that it could be nice to have a way to charge the phone slowly during the night as that is the best way to charge any battery. Is this something that the kernel controls or does it need a special charger that delivers only the exact amount of Amps/h to achieve this.
A nice way to do this would be to use the alarm on the phone to know when it needs to finish charging and adjust the current in function of the amount of hours it can charge. Even easier would be for the phone to ask how long it can charge as soon as it is connected to a charger.
Just a thought I had in mind for a long time and never let out. Done.
;-)

don_falcone

2013-01-21 20:53

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

This... is one of the... strangest and at least for me unreasonable (in terms of effort for very small gains) requests. I get the bit about slow-charging, but Häh? Couldn't you just plug it into an USB port without activating USM? Wouldn't that be slow enough over the night?

dzano

2013-01-21 21:08

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Turn wifi, gps, bluetooth and lights on...and then charge it :D

projekt

2013-01-21 22:12

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

:D Still these are two nice workarounds for my problem: The later, the battery is fully charged, the later it starts discharging :-) It won't run 24/7 unattended but at least for a few days.

Breeze5

2013-01-21 22:23

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

So you can't install kernel-power when you have "kernel-modules-maemo, kernel-maemo"?
"Conflict with kernels" it says =(
me so n00b :(

michaaa62

2013-01-22 07:08

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Please try to give the full error message.

Either append the log from the problems page of HildonApplicationManager or copy and paste the output of apt-get from X-Terminal application

Breeze5

2013-01-22 19:45

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

The regular application manager says "Can't install Linux kernel for power user"
Reason: " Conflict with software package: kernel-modules-maemo
kernel-maemo
kernel-modules-maemo
kernel-maemo"
Never found any "hildon" just a "Maemo.org Based Hildon Theme"

knuthf

2013-01-25 21:28

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by seawall (Post 1242011)

Hi Guys, I need your help because my phone is unbootable after I finished the following steps in X-Terminal:

1, apt-get update.
2, apt-get upgrade.
3, reboot

Anyone knows how to fix it? Thanks in advance.

______________________________________________

How strange it is that my phone can boot now! I have done nothing at all. When I choose the V51 option in multi-boot menu the phone can not boot. When I close keyboard and start the phone it successfully boot into V51. I am curious about the reason.

Your apt-get logs are most likely full - ls -al /etc/apt/* See man pages for apt-get. (http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get):
dist-upgrade

In addition to performing the function of upgrade, this option also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the expense of less important ones, if necessary.
The /etc/apt/sources.list(5) file contains a list of locations from which to retrieve desired package files. See also apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism for over-riding the general settings for individual packages.

Try to rename ("mv") the log. When you reflash, you remove these logs and start all over. "apt-get dist-upgrade" may also clean packages that have been uninstalled from the logs. I have done it twice with success. The installation logs become huge, you have a track of everything and nobody here has ever mentioned these logs, few know that you can trace every installation. This is not MS-DOS or Windows. Use "Storage User", look at /home.apt-archive-cache - ant files here can be deleted - "rm" (removed).
I hope this helps.

biketool

2013-01-27 20:30

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Is there still a FM radio driver issue in KP51?
I just broke out FMradio for the first time in over a year and got the
"cannot load fm radio driver module" error
Older forum posts pointed to a KP48 issue, is this still an issue or should I look elsewhere?

pali	2013-01-27 20:36

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

@biketool: on my n900 fm radio working fine.

biketool

2013-01-27 21:13

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1318228)

@biketool: on my n900 fm radio working fine.

Actually this exact issue in the below thread, all of my dmsg are the same as GreatGonzo:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=64379

96372.302124] hci_h4p hci_h4p: firmware: requesting bcmfw.bin
[96372.654357] radio_bcm2048: disagrees about version of symbol struct_module

He solved his issue by uninstalling and reinstalling KP, but I would rather not try reinstalling KP with CSSU-thumb because AFAIK that pretty much means reflash, especially dont want to now with the repos down, any ideas?

Hurrian

2013-01-28 09:33

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Just reinstall kernel-power - it seems that due to corruption or some other issue a certain module's getting loaded wrong.

(Note: BCM2048 is the bluetooth module, and should have nothing to do with FM radio.)

biketool

2013-01-28 09:40

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1318320)

(snip)Note: BCM2048 is the bluetooth module, and should have nothing to do with FM radio.

The FM radio receiver is onboard the bluetooth chip as I understand it which is why FM rx requires bluetooth being turned on.

pali	2013-01-28 09:58

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1318320)

(Note: BCM2048 is the bluetooth module, and should have nothing to do with FM radio.)

Incorrect. BCM2048 is dual bluetooth and FM radio chip.

Hurrian

2013-01-28 10:07

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Whoops, sorry about that. It seems that I forgot the message in the FM Radio app that tells you the Bluetooth module is turned on.

I guess I confused it for the Si4713 FMTX chip.

In any case, a fresh reinstall of the kernel and modules should do it.

biketool

2013-01-28 13:23

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1318330)

(snip)In any case, a fresh reinstall of the kernel and modules should do it.

I suspect it is CSSU-thumb but I can't do a nokia kernel rollback, and there is a mile of apps(104 packages to be exact) that need removed to uninstall KP51.

$ sudo apt-get --reinstall install kernel-power-modules
above didnt fix it either
(update)
The above DID fix it, forgot how hit or miss FMradio is, QRadio fired right up!

48GX	2013-02-26 16:16

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

I'm having problems to update kp51.

It seems there is some problem downloading some packages.

Sorry if that has been written but i have been away.

regards

toxaris

2013-02-26 20:52

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

A question:
If I remove the battery long enough for the phone to lose the time, aka you have to set the time next time you boot it up.
When you do this, isnt the battery calibration supposed to remain.

This happend me to today.
For quite some time (months) I did a calibration of the battery with the new batterymodules included in Kernel-Power.
And from time to time I reboot my phone or just remove the battery, but it back in and start the phone again, since I find my phone quite slow after a few days uptime.
And when the phone is up and running again, the battery calibration have been the same when I load the battery modules.
But today I removed the battery and didnt put the battery back in the phone for like 30 seconds.
And to my surprise the battery modules have no knowledge of the capacity of the battery anymore, it just says 0mh.

Have something gone wrong here that isnt supposed to happen or is like this?
Just wondering, cos calibrating the battery is a quite long process. And I want to avoid doing that.

Estel

2013-02-27 08:51

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

For some reason, Pali decided, that bq27x00_battery doesn't export some (full charge, current charge) *at all*, when "need calibration" (more than 32 cycles since last calibration, or never calibrated) flag is present - no matter if calibration data were lost, or not.

It's very irritating, to be honest, as every 32 charging cycles you need to re-calibrate battery, as you get 0/0 mAh readings from battery applet (despite fact, that bq27x00 hardware still have pretty correct calibration data).
---

Sticking more precisely to your question, removing battery for too long + having "clock battery" dead (itms the case for 90% of devices), may result in bq27x00 losing calibration data + setting flag "need calibration" to 1.

/Estel

ahmadamaj

2013-02-27 10:53

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

running kp v52.

Status menu applet shows phone only charging to 74-75% (950mAh) but battery capacity is shown to be 1300mAh. while on concky capacity is shown to reach 100%.

Estel

2013-02-27 18:04

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

About shutting down device with kp52 and bme replacement bits, from today's IRC:

Quote:

<Pali> now default is edv1
<kerio> Estel_: you're not supposed to shut down on EDV1 though
<Pali> before it was edvf
<Estel_> Pali, but edv need to be for 15 seconds plus
<Estel_> or no calibration
<Estel_> so shutting down on edv1 = no calibration, ever
<Pali> really?
<Estel_> yes
<Estel_> it calibrates after 15 sec of being on edv1, witohut jumping above limit
<Estel_> jumping above resets timer
<Pali> ok, I will add some timeout
* Estel_ nods
<Estel_> thanks
<Estel_> and what about my request to make it user configurable like charging current?
<Estel_> shouldn't be too troubling to code?
<Estel_> you know, like charge current ot termination current
<Estel_> it's 70-100 mAh gain for big battery users, being able to set it lower
<Estel_> OTOH, some people may experience instability of gsm modem in certain situations even above edv1, so they could set it higher

/Estel

seanmcken

2013-02-28 02:19

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

when the kp52 is gonna officially release?

pali	2013-02-28 08:53

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

see first post: when somebody fix extras-devel

pauloedani

2013-03-01 11:57

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

I have installed kp2.6.28.10v51r1 and then installed kp2.6.28.10cssu3.
how can I install the kpv52? gives a message of incompatible version.:o

panjgoori

2013-03-01 15:02

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Installed KP52 today and gave a restart but after that my phone gives Guru Mediation error. Tried twice but still no luck. What im doing wrong?

seanmcken

2013-03-01 16:41

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Instead of Developing Something else on KP, i guess much developement needed on DSP, iam sorry im noob but this is really needed. And It'd be better if we could run n9's kernel on n900, i knw thats funny ****, but i dunno its possible or no

Estel

2013-03-02 11:15

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

no. ten chars

thedead1440

2013-03-02 11:38

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmcken (Post 1326243)

And It'd be better if we could run n9's kernel on n900, i knw thats funny ****, but i dunno its possible or no

I thought only N9 owners are a fickle bunch but you are in a league of your own :p I would be pleased x100 if kernel-power made it to the N9 and you want N9's regular not-of-much-use kernel to power the N900 and restrict things like H-E-N etc?

Thanks to Jolla, Nemo and Mer there might be a replacement kernel for the N9 in the future but you have got to thank Pali for his amazing work which every N9 can only dream to have... He pushes out updates to improve stuff while the N9 is using a kernel that if the replacement project doesn't work out well has nobody else looking to improve it...

Alecsandru

2013-03-05 15:37

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by pali (Post 1305042)

Packages was updated. Here is full changelog:

kernel-power (1:2.6.28-10power52) fremantle; urgency=low

* Backport upstream patch: udf-use-hw-sector-size.diff (This fix UDF FS support on SD cards and USB disks)
* Update bq2415x_charger patch: (use kstrtol, use dev_dbg, call sysfs_notify, rename N900 charger to bq24150a, fix reporting bad values, disable charging when charger disconnected, report errors)
* Added patch kstrtol.diff which define macro kstrtol as strict_strtol
* Update into about kernel-power-bootimg package
* Package kernel-power-bootimg does not provide any features
* Enable more netfilter and ipv6 modules
* Added driver rx51_battery which export battery temperature, design capacity and voltage to sysfs, provides: kernel-feature-rx51-battery
* Added patch tif_restore_sigmask-syscalls-arm.patch which fix pselect bug, added provides: kernel-feature-sigmask
* Enable bridge module, provides kernel-feature-bridge
* bq27x00_battery: Do not report nominal available capaciy if battery is not calibrated
* Add sysfs entry hostdevice2 which show host device speed detected by musb_virthub.c

-- Pali Rohár <hidden> Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:30:35 +0100

If there will be no problem, I will push this version to Extras.

pali can i have your permission to upload those on my server?
it's faster:)

pali	2013-03-05 15:47

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

linux kernel is under GPLv2 license, so you can redistribute it under GPLv2 without any problem.

But I do not understand what is faster and why you want to do... You can only disorient users which tryting to find *last* kp52.

skrobi2

2013-03-06 18:14

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Hi, I have a problem I can not install kernel-power-modules_2.6.28-10power52_armel.deb because it gives me message "You can not install kernel power modules incompatible application package"

What's going on?

pali	2013-03-06 18:55

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

What is that *it*?

majaczek

2013-03-06 21:55

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Kernel-power-bootimage v52 is wrongly packed:
it doesn't provide item file for multiboot
it puts image on opt and symlinks (opt is inaccessible on boot)

cssu-thumb users may be supprised if updating to kp52 (kp51 gone kp52 not bootable and failsafe maemo kernel doesn't have thumb support)

Estel

2013-03-07 02:08

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Can't confirm. On my device with thumb *and" multiboot, update from kp51r1 went smoothly, image was where it should etc. Can't remember about item file, as I do them by hand, anyway.

/Estel

skrobi2

2013-03-07 19:10

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

And where can I download the kernel power v.51?

panjgoori

2013-03-07 21:14

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Quote:

Originally Posted by majaczek (Post 1327339)

Also same problem for me. After installing kp52 there is no option in multiboot for booting kernel power 52. Only old kp51 option which gives guru mediation error.

dvb	2013-03-11 08:56

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

Sorry if this was discussed, but after I just installed kernel-power v51, I noticed the phone doesn't react on keys or incoming calls/SMS if the processor is fully used by some process (I tried "tar -cvf /home/user/MyDocs/mmc1.tar /media/mmc1/", /media/mmc1 is a 32Gb ext2 partition, if that matters). Just after finishing creating the archive the phone unfreezed and received the SMS, which was sent during archiving. The stock kernel was more desktop friendly (kernel timer frequency too low?).

Edit: overall usability performance seems to be slower... No?

Estel

2013-03-13 01:59

Re: [Announce] kernel-power stable v51 in Extras-Devel

I'm not entirely sure what do you mean by creating tar of microSD content (32GB, as you've said) and where you expect to save such big file (because it is what that command you've mentioned mean).

Nevertheless, problems like this seem to be related to swap problems - try using swap on microSD *only* and search for optimizations related to way swap is used (posted somewhere in easy debian, for example).
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Otherwise, kernel on it's own doesn't change your frequencies, especially into lower ranges ;)

/Estel

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