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I know... I know. I believe too much in dialog and everybody is capable of it.

Shame on me.

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You deciphered his post wrongly :D

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Hey Volt, yep, he deff said qt! but its not important, easy slip.

@lumiatroll: Why anyone would choose any flavour of Windows phone over Android or iPhone that have such tidy, solid and complete ecosystems I can't imagine.

If microsoft try and leverage their desktop/server dominance in the EU they will get slapped hard, just look at the comments on browser choice already.

There is a sea change in the air and microsft isn't it. They are on the trailing edge of the wave, they have, thankfully, missed the boat.

The N900 might not have been the best people phone out there but it is certainly the best IT persons phone bar none that has existed so far.

This is typed from my Galaxy Note running ICS and the "hackers keyboard", which nearly matches a hardware keyboard, on balance the Android experience is pretty solid so far.

Its a shame a great company like Nokia with such great innovations behind them will become the next sorry victim of the microsoft train wreck.

rgds

note to Ltroll: When you have nothing intelligent to add ... rant.

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Agreed. You also need hardware to drive software.
They compliment each other, as SJobs would say.


Disagree.
In the industry, 4.5in seems to be dead-set in the middle of the "regular" sized category. 4.3in is "slightly small", 4.0 is small, and 3.5in is tiny.

In contrast, 4.7in seems to be "slightly large", 5.0 is large and 5.3 is Dayum!

Agreed.
However the difference in advantage of physical size, groove, and functionality differs greatly. Hence:

Size = iPhone > L920 > SGS3
Groove = L920 >> iPhone ~ SGS3
Function = SGS3 >>> iPhone >> L920
Overall = SGS3 > iPhone > L920.

Obviously "overall" score applies to the average person, and there is no "average" person, so it depends on their needs and wants.

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I am not above deciphering posts wrongly.

Either way, Qt in itself was as ready as Java is. Components built for or on Qt to provide for cell phone usage may not have been.

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yes QT core was ready but as you state cell phone devices usag not, that was also what I meant. There was alot of rework made after nokia bought QT. And also some stupid byrocrathy between the symbian and meego team. Remember meegotouch vs symbianui(orbit)

by that I dont say WP was a better solution, it was even worse cause now QT IS ready on embedded but WP is not.

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I'm glad you've finally realised that you just don't get it.

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Samsung Galaxy III:

1. Feels cheap, plasticky

2. that raised button at the bottom, WTF????

3. Colors, nowhere near as good as N900 or iOS 4s

4. Widgets all over the place disorganized

5. Lags, and it lags

6. Not as smooth as WP or iOS

7. Graphics are goofy and not pleasan to the eye.

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And yet Samsung sell more smartphones than any other manufacturer on the planet and the Galaxy S3 is their fastest selling smartphone ever.

It's not 'smooth' and it 'Lags, and it lags' - isn't that what you said about the hugely successful Symbian phones NOKIA used to make? Isn't that why you said they were a 'dead horse'?

Latest figures show Android has 68% of the market, iOS 17% and your beloved WPx just 3.5%. The Galaxy S3 is a top end Android device, if you don't like them what would you make of the budget Androids?

Maybe 'smooth' is not the killer feature you think it is, maybe others prefer functional or powerful or adaptable.

Maybe NOKIA's new unwillingness to offer functionality and adaptability are amongst the reasons they are currently failing so dismally whilst Android continues to devour what would until recently have been their market.

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If anything, I'm buying it and putting MIUI on it from the beginning. I don't like a lot of widgets and on my Nexus 7, I'm running the Chameleon launcher, which is on the very edge of what I consider organized. At least it follows a grid pattern.

And almost all Touchwiz based phones seem to lag. I remember when I still had my Captivate. I basically enjoyed it only after I applied the lagfix and went custom with the ROM.

The rest... thanks. It wasn't that hard to do, now was it? I knew you could!

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Trolling too hard much? You seem to be getting desperate.

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Yes very well thank you. Way too hard much.

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Who ever creating this tread misspelled the headline.

Should be Let's talk Nokia stock Rally.

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Haha! It looks like your regular partner, Lumiaman, is banned yet again!

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Yes, I banned him.

Nokia stock moving slowly nowdays.

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So banning Lumiaman slows Nokia stock eh?

result!

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What is it that Elop said about WP and Nokia being able to differentiate.. Looking at the new HTC WP8 flagship, it looks pretty much identical to the Lumia 820, except better (slimmer). More than that, according to HTC it will be the "signature phone", i.e. the Microsoft adds for WP8 will mostly center around it. WTF. I sense a 10-20% drop for Nok1v come tomorrow..

p.s. I think the 8X looks actually a lot better than the Lumia 920.

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You're right, look at this video: HTC
It's even available in the same repulsive yellow.

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Better camera?

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Dave999 is absolutely right.
______
maszyny dla rolników.

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Repulsive yellow LOL I think it's cool. Even with Elop, WP, Lumias and crashing stock Nokia is a trendsetter. :)

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http://www.dailytech.com/Investors+G...ticle27729.htm

The beginning of the end?

rgds

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LOL here we gi again, "they should go android" just tell me why? Why in earth would nokia do more bussiness going android route? Its samr **** over and over again by some freaking small investors. We have heard this several times before but evrn if elop is an idiot the solution is NOT android. People here sayimg ni one will by nokia wp and there is other wp+android companys just why would they by nokia android and not nokiawp?

again samsung is the one nrmal consumers buys in case of android. What nokia should had done was to keep harmattan and add wp to the list not wipe meego.

investors are just stupid whiners who should had open theyr mouth in february 2011t now its to damn late because even if elop is fired they camt change strategy now by going android when they had fired so many swengineers. They have to succes with wp how much we hate it or just be a small player.

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Yep, MeeGo top-tier with Symbian holding fort at the budget end of the range until Meltemi was ready, plus of course Qt on all.

The sad thing is NOKIA's collapse was entirely predictable, WP7 was not something new and exciting, it was already a proven failure.

I'm not sure WP8 will be improved enough to halt the decline, NOKIA's hardware is the best it's been for a long time but WPx is proving a dead weight.

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Symbian, Meltemi, and Meego apologists unite!! iPhone 5 rules now, but I think Lumia will do well to save the stock and Elop job. Got to give it to apple, that iPhone 5 is a technological marvel of design, slimness and robustness.

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Haha! Welcome Back, Lumiaman!

Your presence was sorely missed :p

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Wp's ugly tiles manage to disfigure even the nicest hardware designs.

HTC's lineup fits better to wp, Nokia's lumias are somehow too rounded for MS's square OS.

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You really should go away from the Maemo forum, you are not adding value.

The world forums have lit up slamming the new iPhone 5 map services as rubbish.

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=apple+maps+rubbish

http://theamazingios6maps.tumblr.com/

Its even being shown on BBC news this morning that shows what a complete c*ck up they have made.

They are virtually unusable for many use cases.

As a hobbyist iPhone developer we have had to disable many of the satellite mapping services in our apps as the new views are either completely unusable or even non-existant on iPhone 5.

We are already in the process of porting the apps to Android where the satellite views are near perfect at a useful resolution.

At no point would we consider porting our apps to WPx and nothing you have contributed has helped that decision process.

enjoy

rgds

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Whilst iPhone apologists hang out in forums concerning genuine smartphones and make vacuous comments about their laughable, flimsy feature phone.

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Yes, apparently Dublin has a new airport :D

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I get irritated by people calling those dumbed-down widgets 'innovative'.

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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...-direction.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d...SjI/s908/1.jpg

Heh.. and then... http://youtu.be/ZDnFNUqf3hg

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And despitel the map fiasco...it is still posting record sales...they are clearly doing something right

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How did you troll guys manage to troll this thread off topic even in an off topic catogory. Classic!

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This is a stock thread. Stop polluting it with non-sense. Who cares if you will develop for who. Are you developing for Harmattan? Meego? Weego? Jolla? Of course not. So get lost

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Touch a nerve did I Lumiatroll?

I seem to see that mine was merely a response to your obvious trolling.

As I said to you once before if you bring nothing intelligent to the forum, perhaps you shouldn't be here?

Also I don't believe I was rude to you so please don't be rude in return.

I also note, by your own admission, that despite the complete washout iPhone 5 is, it is still outselling anything Nokia/WPx has to bring to the table,

Who knew!

I believe that is directly on topic as far as potential impact on Nokia stock price is concerned unlike your other comments.

rgds

Played like a fish.

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iPhone 5 is outselling Nokia Taliban phones too. it will outsell everything under the son given their products and idiot proof iOS. Only WP8 offers idiot proof phones for Nokia. Everything else Nokia has is way too complicated and most people don't want to waste time modding , patching , or xterming. So it's WP or Android, which I find inferior in many ways to iOS OR WP.

The only nerve you hit was your last remaining neuron. Treat it well, or you may lose it too.

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^sun

There corrected that for you.

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Nokia maps is better than crap android/ios in european atleast. Thats a fact like it or not!! I hope jolla license it instead of google crap

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Nokia maps may be better but just stating something as a fact doesn't make it so however for my use case I am not too concerned with the map quality, it is the satellite image quality I care about.

Also I too hope the Jolla project achieves its goals and I will be watching it very closely over the coming months.

Personally I object to manufacturers trying to cater only for users like Lumiaman in the pursuit of their money by spoon feeding them services on locked down devices but if that is what they need to feel comfortable then each to their own.

I, however chose an N900 specifically because I support OpenSource goals and am quite comfortable using my time "modding , patching , or xterming" if I choose and I want a device that I can make work how I wish not how Google or Apple dictate, Apple maps locked into IOS is a perfect example of all that is wrong with closed source.

rgds