maemo.org - Talk - Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices

From jolla themselves, they said they're working on the single sim model.

09:23:56 <occirol> which model of Xperia X ?
09:24:12 <veskuh> occirol: We start with Single SIM version
09:24:25 <veskuh> occirol: F5121

If Jolla is providing the devices themselves, then it is a moot point. But if it will be a "flash your own device" situation, I do hope that the F5121 North America variant (i.e., with the North America-specific LTE bands) will be compatible.

ka9yhd

2017-06-10 07:15

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Back in March when Jolla announced the Sony Xperia X I had asked Jolla about ordering the Xperia X for the region for where we live. And I asked this on their FaceBook page.

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Considering Sony make US and International versions of the Xperia X will we in the community be able to order the version that works where we live?

And Jolla's response:

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That will hopefully be possible. Please stay tuned for an official announcement by the end of Q2.

chenliangchen

2017-06-10 10:33

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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1528958)

If they do one for the XZ premium I would be all over it like a bad rash

This one has a 4k screen if not optimised the battery will be a pain. And that screen is optimised for VR I don't see any use in SFOS...

nh1402

2017-06-10 11:49

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Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1529034)

This one has a 4k screen if not optimised the battery will be a pain. And that screen is optimised for VR I don't see any use in SFOS...

It isn't optimised for VR, it uses an LCD screen. It doesn't support Googles daydream vr thing for that reason alone.

pichlo

2017-06-10 12:43

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Originally Posted by chenliangchen (Post 1529034)

This one has a 4k screen [...] I don't see any use in SFOS...

Or anything at all.

(Sorry, it was impossible to resist ;))

jameson

2017-06-10 18:41

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Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1528936)

Excuse me for this totally unrelated question to this thread, but is it possible to port Sailfish to Mi 5, or Mi 6, OnePlus 5, Sharp Aquos Mini SH-M03 or Nokia 6? I ask this because, I want to know if Sony devices are my only option.. I don't want a 5.5 inch screen.. OnePlus 5 would be an exception though.. And if by any chance OnePlus 5 is smaller than 5.5, it would be a bonanza.. On the other hand, if the answer is a no, will Xperia Z5 compact be one of the supported devices or does the support only start from Xperia X?

You know that you are listing two 5.5-inch devices while the 5.5 device you don't want is actually a 5-inch device, do you?

meet.vino

2017-06-11 00:22

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Originally Posted by jameson (Post 1529040)

You know that you are listing two 5.5-inch devices while the 5.5 device you don't want is actually a 5-inch device, do you?

OnePlus one is 5.5, and I assumed Sony Xperia to be a 5.5 too, whereas I now realize it is a 5 inch.. Mi5&6 are both 5.15.. I see you are referring to Nokia 6 may be.. But hey.. Nokia is Nokia.. Size or even Snapdragon 430 doesn't matter.. And for all those who say its actually HMD, as long as Nokia R&D is behind the software, it doesn't matter! (Assuming Nokia is in charge of the software, of course!!)

juiceme

2017-06-11 11:50

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Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529056)

I see you are referring to Nokia 6 may be.. But hey.. Nokia is Nokia.. Size or even Snapdragon 430 doesn't matter.. And for all those who say its actually HMD, as long as Nokia R&D is behind the software, it doesn't matter! (Assuming Nokia is in charge of the software, of course!!)

HMD has licensed the brand from Nokia, which means that at least Nokia is committed to checking that the quality of the device conforms to certain standards, in order not to devaluate the good brand name of Nokia.

However, there's no Nokia HW or SW in the device.

Dave999

2017-06-11 12:06

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UHG. How disappointed people will be July 1st given talk in this thread. It will be painful...

MINKIN2

2017-06-12 19:42

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Originally Posted by jameson (Post 1529040)

You know that you are listing two 5.5-inch devices while the 5.5 device you don't want is actually a 5-inch device, do you?

Size doesn't matter, it is what you do with it that counts! (So I have been told).

meet.vino

2017-06-13 04:59

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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_releases...news-25571.php

Does this mean Sailfish can be ported to HTC 11?

tortoisedoc

2017-06-13 06:34

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Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529056)

But hey.. Nokia is Nokia.. Size or even Snapdragon 430 doesn't matter.. And for all those who say its actually HMD, as long as Nokia R&D is behind the software, it doesn't matter! (Assuming Nokia is in charge of the software, of course!!)

What makes you think Nokia is behind the SW?

tortoisedoc

2017-06-13 06:40

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529074)

UHG. How disappointed people will be July 1st given talk in this thread. It will be painful...

Why is there anything going to happen July 1st?

lantern

2017-06-13 07:10

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They promised some definitive statement on X by the end of Q2.

benny1967

2017-06-13 07:51

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Originally Posted by lantern (Post 1529113)

They promised some definitive statement on X by the end of Q2.

Actually, what they promised was:

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The target is to offer the first release to Jolla’s customers and community members by the end of Q2/2017.

There's quite a difference between "some definitive statement" and "the first release".

Ariadeno

2017-06-13 10:47

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1529114)

Actually, what they promised was:

There's quite a difference between "some definitive statement" and "the first release".

And there's quite a difference between a "promise" and a "target"

tortoisedoc

2017-06-13 12:14

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Originally Posted by Ariadeno (Post 1529119)

And there's quite a difference between a "promise" and a "target"

And there's quite a difference between "should" and "will"

meet.vino

2017-06-14 18:36

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I am on Sailfish Iijoki 2.1.0.11. If I do a factory reset, what version will I revert to?

Dave999

2017-06-14 18:44

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Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1529114)

Actually, what they promised was:

There's quite a difference between "some definitive statement" and "the first release".

Maybe jolla learned from the refund mess and are now mange the expectation by downplaying the situation and then BOOM in June. Buy an X worldwide with fully working Sail and to top it off tablet buyers can choose a discount or a refund. A reverse scam :D

tortoisedoc

2017-06-15 07:45

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529189)

Dave when you say BOOM you mean BOOM or

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XgZPaHJYz...losion-001.jpg

Dave999

2017-06-15 17:28

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Originally Posted by tortoisedoc (Post 1529195)

Dave when you say BOOM you mean BOOM or

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XgZPaHJYz...losion-001.jpg

Its jolla we are talking about. More like this:
http://ak9.picdn.net/shutterstock/vi...00/thumb/8.jpg

hardy_magnus

2017-06-15 18:21

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Originally Posted by meet.vino (Post 1529188)

I am on Sailfish Iijoki 2.1.0.11. If I do a factory reset, what version will I revert to?

the version that shipped with the device.

juiceme

2017-06-15 19:02

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Originally Posted by hardy_magnus (Post 1529206)

the version that shipped with the device.

No, that changed at some point, cannot remember the version though.
I have a 1st one, and if I factory reset it doesn't go to 1.0.0

hardy_magnus

2017-06-16 04:39

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1529211)

No, that changed at some point, cannot remember the version though.
I have a 1st one, and if I factory reset it doesn't go to 1.0.0

it was a guess :p, i have an aqua fish and whenever i do a factory reset it goes back to aurajoki ( came with the device ).

LouisDK

2017-06-16 05:15

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1529211)

No, that changed at some point, cannot remember the version though.
I have a 1st one, and if I factory reset it doesn't go to 1.0.0

Have you sent your device in for repair at some point? Because if the device has been reflashed that's the version it'll revert to upon reset.

juiceme

2017-06-16 06:13

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Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1529222)

Have you sent your device in for repair at some point? Because if the device has been reflashed that's the version it'll revert to upon reset.

No, I have never needed any repairs with my device.

I think it is probably the most robust phone I have had, it's quickly approaching the 4-year mark this autumn and still going strong. This despite the first impressions of the build quality :D

I'm with the original battery and still have fairly good stats on it, I can easily go through a day on normal use and 2 days if using it sparingly; for really heavy use like doing spotify/radio and GPS tracking simultaneously while bicycling the battery lasts just and just my 2,5 hour ride between home&work.
(It used to last that and more easily last summer, so that's a sign of battery getting worn out)

romu	2017-06-16 08:03

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1529228)

... my 2,5 hour ride between home&work

Seriously !!! :eek: For the 2 rides I hope !

juiceme

2017-06-16 12:21

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Originally Posted by romu (Post 1529235)

Seriously !!! :eek: For the 2 rides I hope !

That's one way if there is strong wind to go against. (which it is on most days, bummer...)
On a good tailwind day it is less than two hours :D

catbus

2017-06-17 18:23

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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1529239)

That's one way if there is strong wind to go against. (which it is on most days, bummer...)
On a good tailwind day it is less than two hours :D

You are kind of sailor? Are You? ;)

juiceme

2017-06-17 21:17

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Originally Posted by catbus (Post 1529284)

You are kind of sailor? Are You? ;)

Sure, I did have a windmill-class dinghy when I was a child, but that was quite a many years ago. Most recently I have sometimes went on sailing trips with a friend I went to college with; he owns a real seaworthy boat. ;)

salamisami

2017-06-18 19:46

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12 Days left of Q2 2017...

Dave999

2017-06-18 19:48

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Originally Posted by salamisami (Post 1529318)

12 Days left of Q2 2017...

Finally...

Houston. We have a countdown.

mosen

2017-06-18 21:13

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How to make yourself unhappy by fixing expectations to a date, lesson 4.

Dave999

2017-06-19 10:17

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Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1529322)

How to make yourself unhappy by fixing expectations to a date, lesson 4.

Luckley for us it's fixed to a quarter Q2 :D maybe jolla should use centuries when communicating. It's ways better with checkpoint dates rather than no info at all like the refund project.

bocephus

2017-06-19 11:49

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1529325)

blablablah refund blah blah

I hope you never see a goddamn penny of that refund. It would serve you right for incessantly blabbering about it every time you open your mouth, like some deranged mental patient.

Dave999

2017-06-19 12:17

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Originally Posted by bocephus (Post 1529326)

I hope you never see a goddamn penny of that refund. It would serve you right for incessantly blabbering about it every time you open your mouth, like some deranged mental patient.

That's fine if if that is how you feel and it's pretty likely to turn out this way. But please don't change my words if you choose to quote.

coderus

2017-06-19 13:23

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I repeat: http://talk.maemo.org/profile.php?do=ignorelist

kinggo

2017-06-19 17:32

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Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1529322)

How to make yourself unhappy by fixing expectations to a date, lesson 4.

How to make yourself happy by not expecting anything, lesson #5.