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Mize 2012-04-24 11:31
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Just because a once stellar company goes in the toilet doesn't mean it will rise again. Palm? (remember when they went windows?) Sun? 3dfx? Etc.

geneven 2012-04-24 12:02
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In the news: a company called Fitch lowered Nokia's rating as a stock to 'below investment grade' and commented that the rating could go lower. Nokia is expected to lay off more employees to improve the bottom line.

don_falcone 2012-04-24 12:32
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1196870)
Nokia Oyj Stock Downgraded (NOK)
"Nokia Oyj (NYSE:NOK) has been downgraded by TheStreet Ratings from hold to sell. The company's weaknesses can be seen in multiple areas, such as its deteriorating net income, disappointing return on equity, poor profit margins, weak operating cash flow and generally disappointing historical performance in the stock itself."
Wow. Besides Nokia still having _serious_ issues, this reads like a typical analyst ******** manifest.

Weak operating cashflow? How much of their supposed 10 Bn are not fixed?

Moody 2012-04-24 12:44
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Only a sad thing for the employees but it serves this company well ..

Their stock downrated to crap reflects nice on their work ethics the last few years..

They had it coming!

Dave999 2012-04-24 13:40
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1196922)
Wait... I thought you left?
same to you ;)

I did. Twice. But Im still reading two threads and this is one of them. I just want to help you back on topic. Stocks are excellent since it give you value without working for it.

so long negatrons.

Regards Optimus Dave

danramos 2012-04-24 16:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1196916)
Guys, I have lost a few dollars on the last days news, but when all people are selling, I'm buying and you get it cheaper and cheaper too.

Lets see how things turn out 2,5 years from now. I'm still supprised that people like you just go after the negatives. Just look at history and some of the most valueble companies have been worth almost nothing at some point. It goes up and down. This goes for everything; countries, life, stocks...even beers.

But do not put all your beers in the same thread. Spread the beers to several threads if some threads are deleted in the future.
You want to see how it turns out in 2.5 years from now? How about we look at how the Nokia stock worked out for investors over the past FIVE years?

Mize 2012-04-24 16:45
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 1197053)
You want to see how it turns out in 2.5 years from now? How about we look at how the Nokia stock worked out for investors over the past FIVE years?
He made a killing buying Lehman Brothers when they were bottoming out ;)

Zoxir 2012-04-24 17:37
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moody (Post 1196966)
Only a sad thing for the employees but it serves this company well ..

Their stock downrated to crap reflects nice on their work ethics the last few years..

They had it coming!
Amen brother

The funny thingg is that instead of learning from it they do even worse crap. Sometimes I wonder are they REALLY that stupid????

specc 2012-04-24 18:49
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zimon (Post 1196895)
To be or not to be, in the future, that is the question for Nokia.

To make Tizen-devices or die, that is the answer.

"2.66 Euros = 3.50189 U.S. dollars" and going down.
Forget Tizen, forget everything. Latest (by Eldar Murtazin nonetheless, but he probably is spot on this time): Bada is dead :mad: :mad: :mad: :( :( :(

Speculations go toward the one and only Tizen phone being the Wave III, currently running Bada 2.

The war is over, Android rulez. It does make sense. Android is open source. Anyone and anybody can download and use it for their device. Nobody is forced to use Google market.

Maybe Apollo has a chance? The point is, it's all very theoretical by now, because nobody cares anyway. Android got everything most people want, and more. MS does not put anything more or better on the table. Competition would be welcome, but the competition has to be competitive, WP is not.

When Samsung gives up on Bada, Samsung the number one locomotive in consumer electronics, then Nokia has little chance with WP. And if Nokia does not within a week or two confirm firmly that Lumia will be upgradable to Apollo, then Nokia is doomed. MS will follow, Windows 8 is a drag, no one likes it.

Today I see only gloom for Nokia, and the stock keeps going down.

Edit: The stock is going up :D Maybe just maybe there is some hope ?

Lumiaman 2012-04-24 19:08
Re: Let's talk Nokia stock!
 
Oh my oh my, so much gloom and doom, one would think that you people havent heard that modern medicine has treatments ranging from violent such as ECT to mild, such as pill popping. There is nothing unexpected in what is going on with NOKIA. They need to lose weight, couple of pounds, they need to sweat and they need to work hard to be competitive. If they become extinct, so what? Another will rise and carry on the torch, its the beauty of human innovation.

I for one, see NOKIA on the right path. They do need to downsize, perhaps half of what they used to be, and focus, focus, focus on few good products. The future is cloudy, but so is anyones future. You got to fight and go for it. GOOOOOOO NOKIAAAAAAA and LUMIAAAAAA:)


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