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Dave999 2016-01-10 21:52

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet
 
Just read that someone @ IGG Jolla tablet page filled a complaint...http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

pichlo 2016-01-10 22:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494379)
Just read that someone @ IGG Jolla tablet page filled a complaint...http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

Dave, come on, gerbick said make it juicy, not transparent.

billranton 2016-01-10 22:12

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I just heard that Dave has all the tablets in his lockup in Peckham.

kinggo 2016-01-10 22:34

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and this time next year he'll be a millionaire

jellyroll 2016-01-10 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494379)
Just read that someone @ IGG Jolla tablet page filled a complaint...http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

This is a good one. Please bring back our tablet if you're hidding them somewhere in your basement Dave...

tommo 2016-01-10 23:56

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Dave doesn't have the tablets, but he does have Marc Dillon in his dungeon

gerbick 2016-01-11 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1494390)
Dave doesn't have the tablets, but he does have Marc Dillon in his dungeon

This deserves to be put on Twitter.

Dave999 2016-01-11 08:20

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guys. I have all the tablets! But I can't afford to ship them. I will create Indiegogo campaign. Just back me with $376 and I will ship it to you soon...[means take the money and doing something else]

Btw ransom for Marc D is $0.03 that's what's he is worth after leaving the sinking ship as captain before cleaning up the mess.

mosen 2016-01-11 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494398)
Btw ransom for Marc D is $0.03 that's what's he is worth after leaving the sinking ship as captain before cleaning up the mess.

I got mental pictures, like

http://images.gutefrage.net/media/fr...8574/0_big.jpg

NokiaFanatic 2016-01-11 10:18

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So has the funding come through? Are all the employees back at work yet? What is the latest on refunds?

Dave999 2016-01-11 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mosen (Post 1494403)

I wouldn't like to be in your mind. Please remove me from your head.

My dungeon consist of lots of wine and have just built a new bakery room with a pizza oven so if anything. Marc would have to create pizzas and sell it until he could pay me back the $200 dollars...that he and his comrades stole.

tommo 2016-01-11 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494410)
I wouldn't like to be in your mind. Please remove me from your head.

My dungeon consist of lots of wine and have just built a new bakery room with a pizza oven so if anything. Marc would have to create pizzas and sell it until he could pay me back the $200 dollars...that he and his comrades stole.

Don't do that, dillon will steal all the dough....

mscion 2016-01-11 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tommo (Post 1494411)
Don't do that, dillon will steal all the dough....

Ha ha! Only way I could top that is with anchovies!

zenecho 2016-01-11 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494410)
My dungeon consist of lots of wine and have just built a new bakery room with a pizza oven .

A think there may be a Translation problem?

I think you may be getting "dungeon" and "pizzeria" confused?

Drekkie 2016-01-11 15:59

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Dave lives in a pizzeria?

Dave999 2016-01-11 16:54

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Yep, Since one month I have a fully equipped pizza joint in the basement. Maybe I should add a door and add neon light above : Maemo's pizza Dungeon

What do you have in you dungeon/basement/ManCave...

mscion 2016-01-11 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494440)
Yep, Since one month I have a fully equipped pizza joint in the basement. Maybe I should add a door and add neon light above : Maemo's pizza Dungeon

Does your pizzeria deliver tablets?

Dave999 2016-01-11 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1494443)
Does your pizzeria deliver tablets?

No, sorry, no and in one month it has only delivered 9 pizzas :D (at one event)

pichlo 2016-01-11 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mscion (Post 1494443)
Does your pizzeria deliver tablets?

I have a stash of tablets in the drawer of my desk at work. Mostly Paracetamol, but also some Ibuprofen. For reading certain TMO posts.

Dave999 2016-01-11 17:53

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Anyway, time to move on. Any sign of invitations yet?

prometheus 2016-01-11 18:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1494405)
So has the funding come through? Are all the employees back at work yet? What is the latest on refunds?

they are ignoring refund options even though they had it before, and then they suddenly declare it "out of option". At least from Jolla support email that I've got from them.

gerbick 2016-01-11 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1494454)
they are ignoring refund options even though they had it before, and then they suddenly declare it "out of option". At least from Jolla support email that I've got from them.

No disrespect meant; but this is the first I've heard of refunds being "out of option".

att 2016-01-11 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic (Post 1494405)
Are all the employees back at work yet?

http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2015/...-at-jolla.html

Nope, according to the article many of those who were temporarily laid off have decided not to come back to Jolla :(

att 2016-01-11 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1494458)
No disrespect meant; but this is the first I've heard of refunds being "out of option".

I think prometheus is referring to this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...06#post1492306 which indicates there is at least temporary hold on refunds.

gerbick 2016-01-11 18:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by att (Post 1494460)
I think prometheus is referring to this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...06#post1492306

Thanks. Hadn't seen that at all.

prometheus 2016-01-11 18:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1494458)
No disrespect meant; but this is the first I've heard of refunds being "out of option".

From email:
Finally, for any backers who may have previously received information from us regarding refunding options ("Option 1" and "Option 2"), please disregard this previous communication going forward.

Or am I miss interpreting things...?

And when I asked them for a refund, they refuse to give an answer regarding this.

Dave999 2016-01-11 19:21

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If refund is out of option Jolla better have a free something ready by MWC...

hhbbap 2016-01-11 19:26

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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1494445)
No, sorry, no and in one month it has only delivered 9 pizzas :D (at one event)

Were the pizza with Sailfish OS (old style) on them?

Dave999 2016-01-11 19:31

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Originally Posted by hhbbap (Post 1494467)
Were the pizza with Sailfish on them?

No sir. It wasn't.

ZogG 2016-01-11 21:00

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet
 
So no refunds, no tablets, no news, no OS updates?
What do we have?

Dave999 2016-01-11 21:02

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1494485)
So no refunds, no tablets, no news, no OS updates?
What do we have?

We have no invites, that is atleast more than nothing. :D

https://mikecanex.wordpress.com/2015...tablet-a-scam/

mscion 2016-01-11 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1494485)
So no refunds, no tablets, no news, no OS updates?
What do we have?

Would you believe... nothing.

gerbick 2016-01-11 21:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1494463)
From email:
Finally, for any backers who may have previously received information from us regarding refunding options ("Option 1" and "Option 2"), please disregard this previous communication going forward.

So that was taken off the table it seems. Wow.

Quote:

Or am I miss interpreting things...?
In my personal opinion, no. You are not misinterpreting things at all.

Quote:

And when I asked them for a refund, they refuse to give an answer regarding this.
So this upcoming surprise better be worth it or they'll incur some serious wrath from more than just a few individuals.

prometheus 2016-01-11 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1494496)
So this upcoming surprise better be worth it or they'll incur some serious wrath from more than just a few individuals.

I will be again "Grim Reaper" but I am quite sick an tired of their surprises. You've all been asking why I was so bitter. Probably because I spent my time for 24 emails with Jolla service, while they've only replied 4,

This was their last - entire message:

Hello,

you have recently been in contact with us regarding a Tablet refund request. We apologize for the delay in getting back to you. This has been due to the difficult and unclear situation faced by Jolla, which in turn has impacted the Tablet project.

What we at Service and Support have been advised to share with you is that more information will be forthcoming about the Tablet project's status after the New Year. Decision-making regarding the Tablet project is a prioritized item on the Jolla Board of Director's end of year meeting agenda. So, once more is known this will be shared via the Jolla Blog and email.

Therefore, and in light of the above, no further action is required of you at this point regarding your refund request.

On a related note, some backers have asked about people who may have already received a refund. To this point, Jolla has only refunded a handful of backers, but this was by mistake at that point. Much of the refunding action was based on the understanding that funding would come in - it did not; mistake made. From here on out our aim is to devise a plan that is fair for all Tablet backers.

Finally, for any backers who may have previously received information from us regarding refunding options ("Option 1" and "Option 2"), please disregard this previous communication going forward.

We look forward to resolving this situation with you as soon as we can in early 2016.

Thank you for your continued patience and understanding.
Sincerely,
Jolla Customer Care


Keep in mind that this was written around New Years Eve.
But several days after I have contacted them again, to be clear on that. I asked will we receive our refund, they've kept silent...

mscion 2016-01-11 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1494496)
So that was taken off the table it seems. Wow.



In my personal opinion, no. You are not misinterpreting things at all.



So this upcoming surprise better be worth it or they'll incur some serious wrath from more than just a few individuals.

You know, I sincerely hope something good comes out of all this because, tbh, this has been a pretty sad last 5 or 6 months...

ZogG 2016-01-11 22:03

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powered by people has other meaning now :)

billranton 2016-01-11 22:06

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I think they'll make the refund an option again when the surprise is announced. They just don't want people taking the refunds and running before they know what the alternative is. A lot more people would rather take refunds now over nothing, than wait for the announcement.

Copernicus 2016-01-11 22:37

Re: The Future of Jolla's Tablet
 
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Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1494501)
But several days after I have contacted them again, to be clear on that. I asked will we receive our refund, they've kept silent...

Well, no, they haven't kept silent. I have to say they weren't very explicit, but if I refer to the message you quoted in your post:

Quote:

...Jolla has only refunded a handful of backers, but this was by mistake at that point. Much of the refunding action was based on the understanding that funding would come in - it did not; mistake made. From here on out our aim is to devise a plan that is fair for all Tablet backers.
In other words, no, they don't have enough money to refund all the backers. They will attempt to give everyone something, but you will not be getting all of your money back.

pichlo 2016-01-11 22:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by prometheus (Post 1494501)
You've been asking why I was so bitter. Probably because I spent my time for 24 emails with Jolla service, while they've only replied 4

24 emails! OMG! There is only so many times they can reply "Sorry, we do not know yet what we can do, we are out of pocket, we would refund you right away if we had the money but we don't." If you keep bombarding them with emails every 5 minutes asking the same thing over and over like a hurdy-gurdy, disregarding the 4 answers they've already given you, there is no surprise they file you under a "notorious nuisance" pigeon hole and ignore you. I am not saying it is the correct way to conduct a business but even Jolla employees are only human, after all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1494505)
I think they'll make the refund an option again when the surprise is announced. They just don't want people taking the refunds and running before they know what the alternative is. A lot more people would rather take refunds now over nothing, than wait for the announcement.

There is also the fact that if they gave a refund to one and the word would get out, they would have to give it to everyone. At the time when money is thin, that could be the final nail in the coffin. For more info, look up bank run.

gerbick 2016-01-12 03:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 1494504)
powered by people has other meaning now

Care to be more explicit?


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