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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1336702)

2H means two hours?

2H = two Half moons = 4 weeks

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actually I mean H2 of 2013, corrected, sorry for the confusion.

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Originally Posted by shmerl (Post 1336504)

Company selling products has to pay taxes. Preorders are taxed as well (if not even worse), since they are advance sales. With Kickstarter it's more weird, since most people see it as a funding (investment) mechanism, however for the government it's still advance sales mechanism, and they tax it like crazy. That's the reality - projects lose a huge part of such funding money. That's why most attempt to find investors, rather than using crowdfunding, since in such case taxation doesn't apply in the same crazy manner.

If you give money and get a product, you pay VAT/sales taxes, if you give money and receive money (coupon/dividends), you pay taxes on revenue (which could be much higher).
There is absolutely nothing crazy or unbelievable about that.

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Originally Posted by zeebra (Post 1336538)

Nokia fanatic:
The N900 is basically the only mobile comuter. How do you know that this would not have become the major trend if more of these devices were attempted?

They have been attempted, they were called Windows Mobile phones, and worked with similar paradigms as desktops (windows that can be minimized, maximized, menus, etc).

It worked out so well... Until the new interfaces came.

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1336723)

I don't think they get any dividends. Usual crowdfunding works in a way that those who fund something receive a pledge from the developers, who promise to deliver some product at a certain date. In essence it's funding, but it looks like a pre-sale. Because of that it's not working as other funding mechanisms (such as investors, stocks and etc.). I.e. more resources are lost on taxes (it can depend on the scheduling and year boundaries though).

See http://www.forbes.com/sites/suwcharm...-the-tail-tax/

What's crazy about it, that for many crowdfunded projects such taxes are senseless, since it's their only investment source, and it's not logical that they are deprived of a big chunk of such investment, while corporate investments aren't getting butchered in the same way.

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I just wish that Jolla's almost sole usage of F*ckbook and Twitter would cease. Unprofessional post-hip sh*t.

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They are present on Identi.ca but rarely use it. They are not present on Diaspora*. I don't use FB or Twitter, so I usually don't track Jolla there at all.

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Jolla should deliver a jolla T-shirt with different jolla logos and a user specific text decided by preOrders. Only for PReOrers. This is mine:

http://i49.tinypic.com/1jue12.png

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Speaking about burning platform, there is a Qt game (Elpo) about it, which runs only on Symbian. Is there some Symbian emulator that can run it elsewhere? (That's really too much of the off-topic, but I never figured out if such emulator even exists or not).

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pretty sure that game (or some strain of it) was also on harmattan