Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1391884)

OK, since all apps (native and android) in harbour are at the same place is there any filter for that. Or maybe, If one doesn't install ACL, is there a chance that he doesn't even see android apps.

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 1392003)

The fact that some idiots decided to implement a new layer on top of this one that for some weird reason forces developers to manually implement checkpointing (aka saving and restoring state) into each and every small application is something I cannot understand.

Originally Posted by qwazix (Post 1392200)

@shmerl
Yep it is, but on the N9 it wasn't synched with the app orientation and it was confusing.

So, better definition: swipe from the top of the application

(not vertically, i.e. perpendicularly to the sea level)

Another way to say it is lock the swipe orientation also if the app is locked

Originally Posted by herpderp (Post 1392209)

Well, it seems to have worked out quite well for them. Maybe it would be better for you too if you'd try to wrap your head around it, it makes a lot of sense if you think about it.

Originally Posted by mariusmssj (Post 1392185)

Yes >>here<<

Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1391884)

OK, since all apps (native and android) in harbour are at the same place is there any filter for that. Or maybe, If one doesn't install ACL, is there a chance that he doesn't even see android apps.

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 1391487)

I have completed my two day long battery testing with Location ON and OFF.

Conditions:
- Screen brightness: manual, minimum brightness
- Screen goes off in 15 seconds
- Developer Mode Enabled

• Remote connection (SSH) enabled

- Installed apps:

• Tutorial
• Calculator
• Calendar
• Clock
• Notes
• Mail
• Media
• Maps
• Documents
• IP Address
• Speedtest.net (Android)
• The Weather Channel (Android)
• Yandex.store (Android)
• Amazon Appstore (Android)
• Mobogenie (Android)
• Firefox (Android)
• Dropbox (Android)
• Whatsapp (Android)
• Viber (Android)
• Skype (Android)
• Angry Birds Star Wars II (Android)
• Daylight World Map (Android)
• Terminal
• Sovjet Military Maps Free

- No apps running on background
- No apps running on foreground
- Messaging settings:

• GMail configured, checking mail every 30 minutes
• 1 IMAP mailbox configured, checking mail every 30 minutes
• 1 Twitter account configured

- Network

• Cellular: 3G, no data connection in use
• WiFi: connected to 802.11n network, 52-65 Mbps rate

- Location ON

Saturday November 30, 2013:
[time elapsed] [time of day] [battery level] [comments]
-0:01 13:24 battery 100 %, settings -> location -> ON, USB cable still plugged, GPS icon blinking
0:00 13:25 battery 100 %, test will start, unplugging USB cable
0:05 13:30 battery 100 %
0:18 13:43 battery 98 %
1:16 14:41 battery 91 %, GPS icon steady and not blinking anymore
3:29 16:54 battery 74 %
3:44 17:09 battery 72 %
4:34 17:59 battery 66 %
5:11 18:36 battery 61 %
6:26 19:51 battery 51 %
7:06 20:31 battery 46 %
7:48 21:13 battery 41 %
8:29 21:54 battery 36 %
8:38 22:03 battery 35 %
9:05 22:30 battery 31 %
9:19 22:44 battery 29 %, battery test ends

13:07 Projected battery charge level 0 %

Conditions changed
- Location OFF

-0:02 12:46 battery 100 %, Location -> OFF, USB cable still plugged, GPS icon not visible
0:00 12:48 battery 100 %, test will start, unplugging USB cable
0:41 13:29 battery 97 %
1:02 13:50 battery 96 %
1:46 14:34 battery 92 %
2:29 15:17 battery 89 %
2:44 15:32 battery 89 %
3:02 15:50 battery 87 %, poor response to double tapping. need to tap multiple times before response.
3:30 16:18 battery 85 %, clock does not stay in correct time
3:34 16:22 battery 84 %
4:13 17:01 battery 81 %
4:33 17:21 battery 80 %
5:04 17:52 battery 78 %
5:35 18:23 battery 75 %
5:53 18:41 battery 74 %
6:26 19:14 battery 71 %
7:39 20:27 battery 66 %
7:44 20:32 battery 66 %
8:44 21:32 battery 61 %
8:54 21:42 battery 60 %
9:55 22:43 battery 55 %
10:35 23:23 battery 52 %
10:50 23:38 battery 50 %

21:40 Projected battery charge level 0 %

Definitely something wrong with power management and with Location ON the GPS/GLONASS chip seems to be all the time on. With current battery performance I can't think of using this as my primary phone.

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 1392222)

Jolla harbour only hold sailfish apps. You want Android apps you go to an Android store. The only Android related item in the Harbour store is the Android compatibility app.

Originally Posted by marbleuser (Post 1391977)

Nobody yet?

Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1392225)

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=885
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=889