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fin2cv 2016-08-19 06:24

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Are there any chances for that Whatsup developer(s) offer us newer/working version of wu? And perhaps even so that wu has proper protocol for future... I will make a proper donation if these things happen =)

PatsJolla 2016-08-19 06:37

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
I don't think this will be so easy... Basically only iOS and Android protocols are left. Maybe with Android it could work but I can imagine that any functionalities have to be reprogrammed on SFOS level to fully work correctly. But I would totally support a new version of a native app...
They are sooo much nicer than the android app

mikecomputing 2016-08-19 18:10

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Get over it use telegram instead its more open and encrypted. and easy to install and use for non geeks too.

So tell your friends to switch works flawlessly on Iphone, Android, Laptop and SFOS

HtheB 2016-08-19 18:11

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1513010)
Get over it use telegram instead its more open and encrypted.

Good luck trying to say that to all the people you know (and not know)

mikecomputing 2016-08-19 18:14

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1513011)
Good luck trying to say that to all the people you know (and not know)

In this case I think its not that hard to convince peoplse since its not a geek only chat such as XMMP or similar fail cause "too much hassle to install and not ready apps"

gaelic 2016-08-19 18:35

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Isn't Whatsapp using xmpp? And if you're using email you're also capable of using jabber

nthn 2016-08-19 22:50

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1513010)
Get over it use telegram instead its more open and encrypted.

Neither of those statements are true. Telegram's server software is proprietary, so it doesn't matter that the clients are free software. Conversations on Telegram are all sent unencrypted by default and are stored on Telegram's proprietary servers, whereas conversations on WhatsApp are encrypted with the Signal protocol, always and everywhere.

WhatsApp may be the worst thing to happen to communication since Facebook, but at least they don't pretend to be anything else. Telegram are a bunch of phonies.

Don't use Telegram.

(You could use Signal instead. It works on Android, iOS, your desktop and even on Sailfish!)

padmaraj.ravi 2016-08-20 11:32

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nthn (Post 1513045)
Neither of those statements are true. Telegram's server software is proprietary, so it doesn't matter that the clients are free software. Conversations on Telegram are all sent unencrypted by default and are stored on Telegram's proprietary servers, whereas conversations on WhatsApp are encrypted with the Signal protocol, always and everywhere.

WhatsApp may be the worst thing to happen to communication since Facebook, but at least they don't pretend to be anything else. Telegram are a bunch of phonies.

Don't use Telegram.

(You could use Signal instead. It works on Android, iOS, your desktop and even on Sailfish!)

Telegram provides an open api and encourages any one to develop a client for it. Source being open is not a criteria for me as long the messaging app work since i dont plan to use it for my secret missions anyway :D .As long as , it does not force me to use an os i dont like(i e open web api. If you are not interested in an os , let me build my own client using your api.) .

It also has a very good web interface which does not force you to keep your phone connected. I dont know if signal has a web interface. Telegrams web interface means even if a client is not there , you can just take the url in the browser and it will work. This alone makes it a winner over whatsapp and signal.

kinggo 2016-08-20 12:18

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
and yet, we still need official android client first to register. So, what's the point of native unofficial one and open API? Telegram sucks almost as much as whatsup.
What we need is some kind of MMS/SMS combo with some enhancements that is standardized across the globe just like SMS/MMS with some fixed monthly fee for the service and to be done with all those OTT services.

nthn 2016-08-20 12:45

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Whatsup on Jolla [UPDATED 29-03-2016]
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by padmaraj.ravi (Post 1513059)
I dont know if signal has a web interface.

Yes, it does, in the form of a Chromium extension which functions as a (sort of) standalone desktop client: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...pdbppfkghcmihk
Edit: to make it clear, you only need to connect this desktop client to the phone once, after that you don't need the phone anymore.

(Unfortunately that means you need to install Chromium or Opera to use it, but it's better than nothing.)


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