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eson 2017-09-07 08:03

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1534020)
It's difficult to resist the temptation to power it on until I'll get to purchase SFOS :eek:

Power it on, if that's what you want. Just don't let it go online. That's what I did. I even managed to unlock it, so it's ready for Sailfish, without going online.

juiceme 2017-09-07 08:29

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by kinggo (Post 1534022)
Which again raises the same question about the point of buying an OS for year and a half old HW.

You're speaking a language I just don't comprehend. :D
To me 1,5 years old HW is topnotch!
I have never owned a device with so new SoC!

juiceme 2017-09-07 08:32

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by eson (Post 1534024)
Power it on, if that's what you want. Just don't let it go online. That's what I did. I even managed to unlock it, so it's ready for Sailfish, without going online.

Yea, I mean to do that. First I'll need to study and check the procedure to unlock it and how to do the DRM saving hack.

pacman 2017-09-07 09:00

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1534026)
Yea, I mean to do that. First I'll need to study and check the procedure to unlock it and how to do the DRM saving hack.

In comments to the blog entry about Sailfish X, James Noori said:

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Android system won’t be wiped clean after the installation, we will be using Android drivers in order to run Sailfish OS on your device. But currently dual boot isn’t an option.
Maybe this means that the DRM keys will survive the flashing to SFOS, and will still be there if re-flashed to Android? I'm also guessing that implementing Sony's software enhancements to the camera in a future release of SFOS X will depend on access to those keys from SFOS, if not directly, then from some binary blob from Sony. Like you I have an Xperia X waiting for the release, but bought second-hand so already on Android 7. I'm going to hold off on downgrading to Android 6 and extracting the DRM keys until I know whether it is really going to be necessary.

lantern 2017-09-07 09:11

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Once you have unlocked the bootloader, your DRM keys are gone.

r0kk3rz 2017-09-07 09:15

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by LouisDK (Post 1534019)
Anybody who knows what "dhd build" means?

If you don't know then its probably not for you :)

dhd = droid-hal-device, its a package that we build that contains device specific stuff.

But really, if you aren't reasonably familiar with the HADK process then its probably not worth attempting at the moment, we have some early testers helping sledges get the instructions right so im sure someone will be posting images soon enough.

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Originally Posted by pacman (Post 1534027)
Maybe this means that the DRM keys will survive the flashing to SFOS, and will still be there if re-flashed to Android? I'm also guessing that implementing Sony's software enhancements to the camera in a future release of SFOS X will depend on access to those keys from SFOS, if not directly, then from some binary blob from Sony. Like you I have an Xperia X waiting for the release, but bought second-hand so already on Android 7. I'm going to hold off on downgrading to Android 6 and extracting the DRM keys until I know whether it is really going to be necessary.

For the 100th time, the DRM keys are wiped when you unlock the bootloader, which is step 1 on flashing anything at all to the device. They will be permanently wiped.

nh1402 2017-09-07 09:22

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by r0kk3rz (Post 1534030)
For the 100th time, the DRM keys are wiped when you unlock the bootloader, which is step 1 on flashing anything at all to the device. They will be permanently wiped.

And no, if you get someone else's DRM keys it still won't work, it's device specific.

gaelic 2017-09-07 10:06

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
Oh god, I really hate DRM. Only pain, no gain.

jameson 2017-09-07 10:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1534020)
hee!
I just got my shiny new F5121 and unboxed it 20 minutes ago!
It's difficult to resist the temptation to power it on until I'll get to purchase SFOS :eek:

I did power it up, upgraded it and keep it on and with a SIM inside. Warranty will be voided when unlocked, so it's best to test it as long as I can before that time.

juiceme 2017-09-07 12:24

Re: Sailfish OS (officially) on Sony Xperia devices
 
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Originally Posted by jameson (Post 1534033)
I did power it up, upgraded it and keep it on and with a SIM inside. Warranty will be voided when unlocked, so it's best to test it as long as I can before that time.

Yea, thats what all the phone manufacturers print on their disclaimer.
Fortunately it is just flapping-of-lips, at least in EU where we have this thing called manufacturer liability act.

What it means, all HW faults that happen during "reasonably expected product lifetime" are grounds for manufacturer to fix/replace. Regardless of whether "a warranty" is valid or not.


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