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Milhouse 2010-08-13 02:30

Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
This will just run & run... doubt it will have any impact on Android in the short term, but longer term I suspect Google will cough up a suitable amount to make the lawsuit go away or alternatively remove any infringing code and carry on as before.

gerbick 2010-08-13 02:52

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Ellison has to pay for that $5.6 Billion purchase of Sun somehow.

geohsia 2010-08-13 05:31

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 784863)
Ellison has to pay for that $5.6 Billion purchase of Sun somehow.

I guess they finally figured out how to monetize Java.

TorstenT 2010-08-13 19:55

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 784863)
gerbick has embraced Google Android

Larry Ellison has embraced Google Android, too :D.

Rauha 2010-08-13 19:57

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geohsia (Post 784938)
I guess they finally figured out how to monetize Java.

They allready figured that one out. Pretty much all phones include Java support and license fees for it.

Dalvik is big threat to that.

Milhouse 2010-08-13 20:25

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 785662)
They allready figured that one out. Pretty much all phones include Java support and license fees for it.

Dalvik is big threat to that.

I guess the point Oracle are making is that Google are using Java technology in the Dalvik VM (not just implementing an already patented idea, but wholesale copying of code and documentation), but haven't licensed Java as everybody else does.

Which is a bit like Apple using GSM technology and patents, without paying for it.

The relationship between SUN and Google was a close one, and SUN appear to have turned a blind eye to what Google were doing, whereas the relationship between Larry Ellison (former Apple board member) and Steve Jobs is even closer, and now Oracle are going after Apples biggest competitor, Google.

I'm sure Steve Jobs is very happy. :)

Matan 2010-08-13 20:34

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 785693)
I guess the point Oracle are making is that Google are using Java technology in the Dalvik VM (not just implementing an already patented idea, but wholesale copying of code and documentation), but haven't licensed Java as everybody else does.

I saw this movie already.

The next step is Larry Ellison sending a letter to all Android users telling them their phone is illegal and they should pay him 699$ for a license.

Rauha 2010-08-13 20:41

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 785693)

I'm sure Steve Jobs is very happy. :)

Actually I think that there was a simultanious trans-continental burst of happiness in Cupertino, Redmond and Espoo.


More seriously, I don't think that this will have serious effect on the current mobile platform war. Whatever the lawyers will come up with will include, relatively, small sums of money and possibly give Oracle bit more say/control on Dalvik.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 785693)
The relationship between SUN and Google was a close one, and SUN appear to have turned a blind eye to what Google were doing, whereas the relationship between Larry Ellison (former Apple board member) and Steve Jobs is even closer, and now Oracle are going after Apples biggest competitor, Google.

Sun was very unhappy with Google/Dalvik. I think that simpler explanation is that Oracle bought Sun before Sun sued/was done with negotiating Google.

egoshin 2010-08-13 20:44

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 785703)
I saw this movie already.

The next step is Larry Ellison sending a letter to all Android users telling them their phone is illegal and they should pay him 699$ for a license.

It is a reason why I don't like Java or Java-powered products :)

danramos 2010-08-13 20:52

Re: Oracle sues Google over Java patent infringement in Android
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matan (Post 785703)
I saw this movie already.

The next step is Larry Ellison sending a letter to all Android users telling them their phone is illegal and they should pay him 699$ for a license.

Can we start calling them "SCOracle" now?

Too late! It's already started!
http://www.itworld.com/open-source/1...eaponizes-java

EDIT: Oh wow! They even used the same lawyers as SCO! Morrison & Foerster and Boies Schiller! [slaps forehead]
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35811761/O...t-infringement


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