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mas5acre 2011-02-13 10:17

Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Let's face it, your not with us anymore, so lets see what the community can do and please give the source code and drivers to the closed parts of the n900, so that you, in turn can see evolution and once again ship your devices with open-source software.

zarf 2011-02-13 11:14

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Good point, I doubt they'd be willing to make it 100% public domain, and I don't blame them, they spent a lot of money developing it.

However, given the ruling that it can only ever be deployed onto Nokia Hardware, and that Nokia has the right to deploy our code onto any handset them may develop in the future, we may see maemo again, you never know.

We get the phone working perfectly with every rough edge ironed out and the ability to future proof it, flash 10 integration perhaps for instance. Maybe things Nokia haven't ever dream't of.

Nokia get a completely free development and testing team.

How could they resist that, as long as it's tied to Nokia Hardware.

zarf 2011-02-13 11:20

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
If we manage to do such a stunning job that they can't resist, they may even make a hardware platform to our recommended specs :)

I'll buy 2, maybe 4 :)

ysss 2011-02-13 11:25

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
How do you plan to block this fully opensourced codebase to other interested manufacturers? (presumably from the far east)

Rauha 2011-02-13 11:29

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Dear sir.

In all matters concerning the Keys to the Kingdom, please refer your question to:

One Microsoft Way
Redmond, Washington
United States


Best regards,
Nokia support.

fms 2011-02-13 11:49

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 944839)
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, Washington
United States

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zarf 2011-02-13 16:11

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 944838)
How do you plan to block this fully opensourced codebase to other interested manufacturers? (presumably from the far east)

With a combination of legal paperwork and, perhaps it would be possible for them to retain a small enough piece of code as to block this, without having to retain ownership of the entire phone code.

That is phone as compared to the n900's mobile computer code.

I know it may not work 100% against backstreet forgers, but it would stop all of Nokia's commercial competitors from doing so.

Plus, who wants a ripped off crap bit of back street tech when they can have a Nokia platform to run it on.

What do they lose ? What could they gain. Any illegal deployments would act as free advertising of how good it is, another good thing.

Its a closed project for them, they can still protect their intellectual rights whilst allowing modification, they just retain sole right to hardware platform. ie, run it on anything other than a nokia and expect a solicitors letter in the post (companies of course, individuals do what they like, like we always do lol )

Mara 2011-02-13 16:29

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 944838)
How do you plan to block this fully opensourced codebase to other interested manufacturers? (presumably from the far east)

Why do you need to block it? Nokia already announced/told us that it is useless, has no future, so why would any other manufacturer pick it up?

It is Nokias best interest to give it away so someone else will stumble upon it, waste their time on it,and Nokia has less competition in the future.

:rolleyes:

ysss 2011-02-13 16:40

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 945088)
Why do you need to block it? Nokia already announced/told us that it is useless, has no future, so why would any other manufacturer pick it up?

It is Nokias best interest to give it away so someone else will stumble upon it, waste their time on it,and Nokia has less competition in the future.

:rolleyes:

By completely opening it (for free?) Nokia just gave 'the keys to the kingdom' to whomever is interested to make a maemo clone. Thereby significantly lowering the barrier of entry for their potential competitor...

Especially under the current leadership, this seems impossible.

Mara 2011-02-13 16:56

Re: Nokia- Can we have the keys to the kingdom?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 945096)
By completely opening it (for free?) Nokia just gave 'the keys to the kingdom' to whomever is interested to make a maemo clone. Thereby significantly lowering the barrier of entry for their potential competitor...

Especially under the current leadership, this seems impossible.

I agree that the M$ do not like the idea.

Seems my sarcasm didn't work that well. It supposed to be the swamp every other "newcomer" will get stuck and therefore give Nokia the edge when whey have no longer this excess baggage?

On more serious note, if Nokia ever like to return to the Meego platform they "want" other players to keep the ctivity ongoing to keep Meego alive and build some (small) app base. Once Nokia (year later?) is ready to hop back, there will be at least a little ecosystem already build in instead of starting from complete scratch?


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