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Karel Jansens 2007-09-14 20:52

Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/s...l-on-vodafone/

Actually, this one kinda sends ever so slight shivers down my spine.

Anyone found out what O/S is churning away in this beastie's belly?

johnkzin 2007-09-14 22:31

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
How does this kill the N800?

The slide-out keyboard is nice, but it's not ergonomically a good mechanism (but, the ergonomically good way to do it makes the device bigger: see the pepper pad series). I prefer something like the micro-laptop with rotating screen form factor (gateway makes a laptop like this, and HTC makes a cell phone like it).

A real camera would be nice, sure. But that's not what I was looking for when I bought an N800.

Real cell phone instead of skype? meh. It would be nice to have real cell phone + non-vendor-specific-SIP phone software + vendor-specific-VOIP-software options (ie. I could pick Skype OR Vonage, etc.). But, ultimately, I didn't buy my N800 to be a phone. I don't plan to _ever_ activate its Skype capability. The main attractive feature, to me, for having real cell capability would be for persistent internet connectivity.


What I wanted was a PDA that I can use for email, ssh, and web browsing ... and do local work on it when I'm away from wireless connectivity. It also had to have bluetooth keyboard capability or a built in physical keyboard. Oh, and I have a STRONG preference for it being *nix based. It was N800 vs iPhone vs iPod-Touch. The keyboard thing is mostly what ruled out the Apple products.

If that device ALSO has those things, great. But that doesn't suddenly make my N800 obsolete.

Further, the next generation of the N800 series, if an on-line mockup is to be believed, will also have a slide-out keyboard. Now if they'd only put a real IMAP client on it (I took for granted that "has IMAP" was good enough ... and it's not. The N800's built in IMAP is basically "POP behavior via IMAP protocol", which is not acceptable.)

YoDude 2007-09-14 22:33

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 75553)
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/14/s...l-on-vodafone/

Actually, this one kinda sends ever so slight shivers down my spine.

Anyone found out what O/S is churning away in this beastie's belly?

Not Windows...

Quote:

Samsung ULTRA smart F700 Q3 .

Specifications
Standard HSDPA 7.2Mbps, EDGE

Camera 5 Megapixel with Auto-Focus
Display 262744 TFT (2.78”, 440x240)
Features Full Touch Screen
MPEG4/H.263/H.264/Real
MP3/AAC(+)/eAAC+/Real
QWERTY Keypad
MMS/E-mail/JAVA/WAP 2.0
Bluetooth® / USB
Flash UI / Document Viewer
Full HTML Browsing
Offline Mode, BGM
Memory microSD™
Size 104 x 50 x 16.4 mm
"Flash" UI ???

No WiFi, not tri-band.

Karel Jansens 2007-09-14 22:33

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
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Originally Posted by johnkzin (Post 75563)
How does this kill the N800?

You're new here, right?

Karel Jansens 2007-09-14 22:39

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by YoDude (Post 75564)
Not Windows...

Pfhew...

Quote:

"Flash" UI ???
Yeah, that one baffled me as well. Especially as the UI is supposed to be "cross", or "croix" for the terminally kewl. You notice how they managed to sneak in cross-shaped UI elements everywhere? It's supposed to be very suave, but I'm guessing this thing ain't gonna fly in Mohammed-country. Or maybe Samsung 'll do a banana-version as well? Sorry: crescent moon.

Quote:

No WiFi, not tri-band.
It were only ever so slight shivers. I'm still reserving my really big shivers for the OpenMoko crowd.

YoDude 2007-09-15 00:09

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
Yeah, that one baffled me as well. Especially as the UI is supposed to be "cross", or "croix" for the terminally kewl. You notice how they managed to sneak in cross-shaped UI elements everywhere? It's supposed to be very suave, but I'm guessing this thing ain't gonna fly in Mohammed-country. Or maybe Samsung 'll do a banana-version as well? Sorry: crescent moon.

Lol...

This "Flash" Ui is apparently on the Samsung Prada phone, whatever that might be.

http://ericheuk.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/prada/

^ check out the little fishies... Pretty cool.

tso 2007-09-15 00:38

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
flash ui huh. thats shockwave flash. they use it to liven up the ui. it also indicate that its mmost probably running samsungs in-house os rather then some big name smartphone os.

YoDude 2007-09-15 01:44

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 75582)
flash ui huh. thats shockwave flash. they use it to liven up the ui. it also indicate that its mmost probably running samsungs in-house os rather then some big name smartphone os.

Then do they pay a license to Adobe and still develop their own code for the other stuff?

I did notice that the flash objects were only manipulated and displayed one at a time.

Also, the menu hierarchy seemed pretty basic. (I'm assuming that is the in-house OS you are referring to.)

Traecer 2007-09-15 05:55

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
By the AllSpark, when are these threads going to stop?

HeebieJeebie 2007-09-15 06:42

Re: Oh no! they killed the N800! You bastards!
 
VERY interesting. I'd also like to know what specific OS it is running. Definitley has my attention although I doubt it will ever reach US shores.


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