Third Internet Tablet spotted on FCC
 

Here's my post. There are TONS of great comments already since I did not have the time to give it a full analysis before running off to the doctor's office.

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Very good find... :-)

Like I said on your blog thread, I wonder why they would apply for special confidentiality on the external photos if this is just the N800 with a wimax chip fitted.

On the other hand, that outline does look an awful lot like the N800.

Incidentally, the Nokia hardware code for this is RX-44, the same code seen in the firmware discussion thread over the summer.

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Sorry for cross-posting this here and on the blog, but here's what I came up with:

As far as I can tell from looking at the FCC report, this tablet does NOT contain WiMax capability. If it did, the FCC would have had to test the RF emissions in the WiMax range (2.5 GHz)and this test does not appear in that report. The test DOES show that they tested WiFi, Bluetooth, and Bluetooth + GPS emissions. This would appear to be a new model of tablet with built-in GPS rather than with WiMax.

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Nokia have promoted N800s and 770s with GPS units and map packages, maybe the logical next step is to release a tablet with built in GPS?

Incidentally, Nokia have already included GPS chips within several phones (N95, E90 and 6110) and of course they recently bought what became known as Nokia Maps.

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Waiting on what textrat has to say.....

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Hmm... what if it's neither wimax nor the rumoured keyboard model, but an ordinary N800 with a GPS chip?

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Looking at what textrat said on 06-19-2007 in the "new n800 firmware proof" thread (post #50):

This indicates that this is likely to be the next tablet, and not just a small upgrade to the n800 (fingers crossed).

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As the 6230 and 6230i showed, you never know.

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Well if it does have GPS built in should we expect apps of some kind? Perhaps Google maps that can also be run on an ol' school N800 with BT GPS ???

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It's difficult to tell what they might include. The N95 comes with Nokia Maps, but the 6110 Navigator (a smartphone with GPS as its main selling point) is bundled with Route 66. Both of them use the S60 3rd software platform, both released within months of each other by the same company, yet they had totally different navigation software included.

It's worth noting however that built-in GPS units on computers and smartphones can usually be used with any software you care to install, so you don't have to use whatever's in the bundle.

I'd be very surprised if Nokia didn't include at least something bundled with a GPS tablet.

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It also mentions the following:

WCDMA ???


>> https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/oet/f...ive_or_pdf=pdf

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Yeah, there was a lot of excitement about that phrase, but later in the document it clearly says it's a Bluetooth and Wifi device, with no mention of WCDMA.

I don't know much about these tests, but they must be done to measure radio interference with other devices, and perhaps they wanted to make sure it didn't cause problems with nearby WCDMA phones.

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@YoDude and krisse

The FCC tests for the original N800 also have that exact same wording. I believe it is part of their test procedure. I'm stall at work and haven't had a chance to look closely at the docs, but I'm fairly certain that the model posted to the FCC site today does not have WiMax.

It would be neat to discover that this is the version with the keyboard. The GPS alone is enough reason for me to buy this even though I only purchased my N800 last month. I better start saving up!

Edit: link to FCC docs on original N800

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Thanks for the heads up dude. I hadn't noticed that. But then again I'm still looking for that dang manual they listed. :D

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CA-101 Nokia Charging Connectivity Cable CA-101

thats the micro usb cable, video, and audio all in one.

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There are actually 4 different test reports:
1 for part 15b ( devices for home or office use ),
2 for part 15c ( unlicensed low power transmitters ),
and 1 for SAR report.

The printer, laptop, and digital camera pointed out by timothy in your blogger comments appear to have been tested with the rx-44 device. These devices appear in the "tested devices/accessories" section of the part 15b report and not in test equipment list at the end of each report.

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Crossref: didn't we see RX-44 in a teaser pic for the latest firmware release from a R&D-mode device startup picture? The device in the photo looked very much like an N800.

EDIT: My bad, the initfs was RX-44, but the device itself was ID'd as an RX-34. The plot, she thickens...

Photo at: http://bp3.blogger.com/_YOkWwbhy4YI/...h/DSC00640.jpg

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you can buy GPS receivers with bluetooth interface which are nearly as small as a packet gum, so I'd hold off if I were you until the wimax or keyboard version is available!

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Yeah, I've been thinking about picking up one of the bluetooth GPS receivers, but it's just another device to have to keep charged and remember to take with me; it would be nice to have it built into the tablet. I do hope this model also has a keyboard, I might hold off if it doesn't. The fact that Nokia made the external photos confidential makes me think that there must be something significantly different about the hardware interface on this model. I'm not the least bit interested in WiMax since it's not likely to hit my area for years yet.

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According to Finnish finance magazine Kauppalehti Nokia is going to release the Wimax edition of Internet tablet next year. (source:
WiMAX World Conference. September 25 - 27, 2007)

Nokia also said it will use Intel's WiMAX silicon product, which is codenamed "Baxter Peak". Also Mozilla-based browser is included on the device (default browser).

There are some 15 WiMax operators in Finland spread throughout the country.

http://www.kauppalehti.fi/4/i/uutise...n.jsp?oid=5917

EDITS

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I had this nice post typed up about this 3rd device, but considering the trouble I got into for posting one of the first photos of the N800, I have removed my post. Sorry for wasting your time :(

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I don't see how you can get into too much trouble.

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In Canada, WiMax is pretty widespread across the urban centres. To date, I do not know of a WiMax-enabled device that works on the networks here independantly of the bulky modems (excuse my ignorance if there is such a device in Canada). So I would be curious as to how the two Canadian WiMax resellers handle the subscription side of things with a future IT. I just got my N800 2 months ago, but if this new IT is a WiMax-enabled one, and the WiMax subscriptions are reasonable, I'll upgrade in a heartbeat!

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http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=3365

Thats the trouble. From this, my "friends" informed me it wasn't a smart move. Within 26 hours, Nokia requested Reggie remove the image, and he honorably did.

Honestly though, I do not want to derail this. Just ignore what I posted and if willing, I will post more info when I reasonably can.

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I understand why there's only an "GPS update". Developing a completely new hardware (slideout keyboard? Sim card?) takes time. And the N800 is quite successful, so just bump in one feature at a time (like the Skype firmware), before a whole new model will be released. Maybe WiBro will be the next candy. So time until then is secured with a good running device, consumers are kept on their toes etc. It's business after all.

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I was just looking at the N800's FCC documents, that had a 45 day confidentiality request on the photos too. They made the photos public after about a month though, so if this new device follows the same schedule we should see pictures of it at the end of October or the beginning of November.

If a product launch follows immediately after that, it would be just in time for Xmas.

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I predict the device
will have...
- GPS
- Better touchscreen tech
- More powerful CPU
- More memory and storage space
- New Micro USB connector
- Wifi + Bluetooth
- Extra buttons
- Higher capacity battery

but will not have...
- WiMAX :(

I'm pretty excited about this new NIT, but I want to see the full specs before I set aside my $ for it. It's possible that this might be the first of two or three NITs to come our way. I hope there will be a fourth to choose from. I, like many of you would rather have WiMAX than GPS in the new tablet.

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One last thing I noticed on the FCC docs as I went over them today: it shows the software version of the tablet as "0.2007.34-9". The most current firmware release for IT OS 2007 is 4.2007.26-8 (and the prior releases were 3.2007.10-7 and 2.2006.51-6). This doesn't really tell me anything other than that they are running a (the?) new firmware on the soon-to-be-unveiled next-gen internet tablet, but we all already know they're going to release an update "sometime soon". Does anyone else know if there's anything usefully significant in the firmware version numbers?

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where? vancouver? toronto? whitehorse? details plz. thx.

Update: nvm. found it: Sympatico & Rogers. thx

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I might be wrong, but I thought it was the following format:

release number in current year.current year.release week.build number?

I could be wrong.

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Almost all of Canada is covered.

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Tuesday of next week is looking likely.

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Sounds good to me. I wonder if this will just be a fix for the memory card issue, a new version of Bora or the first version of Chinook.

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That makes sense, week 34 was near the end of August which is when the device was tested for the FCC.

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Good catch, I didn't think of the week number. The format is w.xxxx.yy-z and my guess is that w is the release number, xxxx is the year and/or OS version, yy is the release week (as zerojay pointed out) and maybe "-z" is build number. So I wonder if the "0." in the firmware for this new tablet means that it's an alpha firmware? Did the N800 ship with "1.2006.yy-z" firmware with "2.2006.51-6" being the second firmware (first firmware update after release)?

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It is primarily a hotfix for the memory card issue. The Chinook is coming later...

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Interesting discussion. :D

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I've always understood (not sure why) that the dates are based on the build rather than release dates, but I could be wrong.

In which case xxxx is the build year - and it's completely unrelated to the OS version, which is an unfortunate (but incorrect) coincidence in most cases. w.xxxx.yy-z is really just a unique file naming convention and not a version number as such - any relationship to the IT OS naming system (OS 2006, OS 2007, OS 2008 etc.) is purely coincidental and most likely unintentional (I assume it's uninentional as it's bl00dy confusing most of the time!)

I'd agree that "0." represents unreleased or early "alpha" firmware - the N800 shipped with 2.2006.51-6 (though some units had 2.2006.51-8 which was never made available for download).

"0.2007" sounds like it's a new firmware which is incompatible with the current N800, otherwise they might be using "5.2007.yy-z". The full firmware filename includes the device code which allows Nokia to reset the version number for the new device, eg. the full filename for the N800's 4.2007.26-8 firmware is

I'd take a punt and say this new device firmware is

:)

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http://www.gottabemobile.com/NokiaAn...WiMaxDeal.aspx

is that news?

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There is a bit more detail here
http://www.reuters.com/article/compa...00582220070926