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Maemish 2018-11-18 22:32

Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Just bought another N900 with 15 Eur. From someone who had worked for Nokia. Who had got a bag full of N900s when their job ended. N900s were of no use anymore at that time. I think they said this phone was the last they had for sale. Some collector had bought a lot of them. Some with arabic lettering keyboards.

I asked if they emptied the phone and they said yes. Noot. Over 400 contacts, some pictures and many accounts trying to connect automatically, including gmail etc. Didn't want to straight to empty the whole phone but just emptied those account infos. Then started to check repos.

Enterprise Pilot Package Repository
https://hiro.nokia.com/repository/pr...rprise-tablet/
fremantle
nokia-open nokia-closed modified ossw

Haven't seen that before.

Installed software/apps:

Hiro Basic
Enterprise application package for Nokia employees

hiro-ocs-control
OCS control script

Trust Hiro repository
Hiro repository application manager domain and public key.

and

enterprise-configurator
Utilities to automatically configure certain aspects of a maemo device.

Also many VPN apps with connection information for connecting remotely to different Nokia servers etc.

Of course none of those Nokia based connections worked anymore and did not have passwords for VPNs. Just thought that want to share if these apps are not so common or someone would be interested of them.

HtheB 2018-11-18 22:36

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Interesting find!
Any special apps installed that you could extract?

Maemish 2018-11-18 22:44

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I think those that I mentioned are something I don't recall seen before. Or are they found in repos?

endsormeans 2018-11-18 22:45

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Told ya Maemish....
Lotta questions...people will have...
And if there is any way of extracting half of what is in there ...
It will present possibly interesting findings, possibly allow easier inclusion for ...goodness knows what...actually...
It is quite the find...and an unknown quantity and quality ...at this point.

endsormeans 2018-11-18 22:47

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I have NEVER seen those in the repos...

Nokia devels had dark dark secret trapdoor passageways through the underpinnings of the infrastructure...

I KNEW IT!
:D

Where is Conspiracy-Theorist-Dave???
He will definitely think alien interstellar hybrid sea cucumbers are behind all this.
:D

Maemish 2018-11-18 22:50

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I just thought of flashing it clean. Should I not then? I'm like Mr Bean with N900. So don't ask me to extract anything unless you wan't it to be lost forever. Maybe someone else could do something? Anyone from Finland here? I'm willing to send it to someone to check even though I think it may be dissappointing and not having too much extras inside.

Maemish 2018-11-18 22:56

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Nights to ya all. It's one and gonna wake up at six so have to get some sleep. Gonna check tomorrow if someone would have some suggestions here about this.

endsormeans 2018-11-18 22:59

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I imagine a few people will mull over what you have suggested...
I am too far from finland to count....
the other side of the planet almost ...

endsormeans 2018-11-18 23:00

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
no don't flash it.
wait until someone comes up with a good idea...before doing anything with it.

Android_808 2018-11-19 00:17

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
You could dig around the filesystem to see if there are any cached Deb files. It's possible being an internal device that some settings might be different and the original debs are not cleaned.
/home/user/MyDocs/.apt-archive-cache/
/var/cache/apt/archives

Then there's dpkg-repack, which may not create 100% exact debs.

Other than that, it might be worth generating a log of all installed packages and Maemo version information to see if there are any updated or different packages

pichlo 2018-11-19 07:59

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
If you absolutely definitely feel the burning desire to flash, at least install Bootmenu and make a full backup first.

Maemish 2018-11-19 08:24

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I think I will send it to someone to check. Maybe endorsement would like to look at it. Just would like to get it back someday cause it is in good condition.

endsormeans 2018-11-19 09:12

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I would love to look at it ...butr that is besides the point..
For goodness sake ...maemish ...send it to someone closer to you ..
than me!
I think virtually everyone in talk here is closer to you geographically than I am.
HtheB is....pichlo is ...juiceme is...
etc.
Not to mention we are currently undergoing a strike by our Canada Postal workers, I would be hesitant to tell anyone to send anything ...right now.

I appreciate it, but for logistics alone pick someone closer that wants to inspect it.
And I do VERY MUCH think that device needs a proper forensic inspection,
what it could tell us could help us ....a lot.

juiceme 2018-11-19 09:30

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
@Maemish,
I could check it if you live anywhere close to Järvenpää. :)

john_god 2018-11-19 09:47

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
@Maemish The guy that sould you the phone has more to sell ? 15 € seems a good price, I never had a N900

peterleinchen 2018-11-19 09:59

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john_god (Post 1550911)
@Maemish The guy that sould you the phone has more to sell ? 15 € seems a good price, I never had a N900

True. :)

I would take 10 or so... :D (seriously)

endsormeans 2018-11-19 10:07

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
I wouldn't mind one of these "alternate universe" n900's to look at either ...
But I will happily wait for the findings...and apply whatever cool stuff can be acquired...
5 n900s is enough for me...plenty in fact.

Maemish 2018-11-19 10:36

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1550909)
@Maemish,
I could check it if you live anywhere close to Järvenpää. :)

I live in Helsinki so you could check it. Pm phonenumber and I'll call you.

Maemish 2018-11-19 10:46

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
And I think they said mine was the last they had. This was my fourth N900. Max prize was 30 eur with the original packet with manuals, headphones, usb cable and replacement battery and charger. They normally ask 50-150 eur but I wait until there comes an offer and then strike

Maemish 2018-11-19 18:36

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Established audio contact with juiceme. Delivery time set. And checked and noticed there is one backup from 2010 so there may be something also. So maybe first to check everything as is now and then recover from backup and check if there is something more.

Maemish 2018-11-19 19:23

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
And decided to try to contact Nokia Maemo developers if someone would know something usefull for leste. Googled a bit and made a phone call and the guy from opensource community promised to check if some older Nokia fellas could say something.

juiceme 2018-11-22 08:27

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Thans @maemish, we met briefly and he gave the device to me for inspection.

Here you can find the filesystem dumps of mtd partitions and mmcblk0p1; www.swagman.org/juice/maemish_21112018.tar

I did not include MyDocs yet, as I need to go through it first to see if there is any personal stuff that I'd need to purge first.

Is there something else people would like to see?

Android_808 2018-11-22 18:39

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Some straight forward ones. Maemo version and output of dpkg -l to see at a glance if there are any new versions of packages (esp closed binaries) hiding away.

Maemish 2018-11-22 21:42

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Today bought remotely 4 more N900s with 45Eur from a russian lady. Friend tested and said that three booted normally as the lady had told me. Waiting to see if could get the fourth one to work too. Don't know their history or whatis inside. Probably could get one more with 10eur. I think I will stop for nine phones untill there comes more bargains. Not yet sure what to do with them but to save them is a current mission.

Boemien 2018-11-23 11:19

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1551021)
Not yet sure what to do with them but to save them is a current mission.

gotta catch save em all ;)

Feathers McGraw 2018-11-23 11:22

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1551021)
Today bought remotely 4 more N900s with 45Eur from a russian lady.

Weren't the Neo900 guys struggling to find N900s to be refurbished at one point? They should have subcontracted you to find them, you seem to be finding it easy!

Maemish 2018-11-23 12:17

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
There's like 4-5 right now on sale but their are from 50-150 euros. I wait for the cheap ones and check once in a while online second hand sales here in finland. Not gonna pay more than 15eur each. Some of those prizier once have all the bells and whistles though plus some also chargers for extra batteries and stuff with all included in original box. I just don't need them.

Maemish 2018-11-23 14:24

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
https://m.tori.fi/vi/52516524.htm

https://m.tori.fi/vi/52354685.htm

and this might interest many: unused spare parts for nokia n900

http://www.puhelinvaraosat.fi/search...ategory%3An900

Maemish 2018-11-23 15:02

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
On ebay usb charging port

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nokia-Lum...UAAOSw98FbYxd~

Ilew 2018-11-23 22:12

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juiceme (Post 1551011)
Thans @maemish, we met briefly and he gave the device to me for inspection.

Here you can find the filesystem dumps of mtd partitions and mmcblk0p1; www.swagman.org/juice/maemish_21112018.tar

I did not include MyDocs yet, as I need to go through it first to see if there is any personal stuff that I'd need to purge first.

Is there something else people would like to see?

There are some folders which contain contact details/emails:
\mmcblk0p2\user\.rtcom-eventlogger\
\mmcblk0p2\user\.osso-abook\db\
\mmcblk0p2\user\.osso-abook-backup\db\
\mmcblk0p2\user\.modest\

and probably some other dirs that I missed.

juiceme 2018-11-24 10:49

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilew (Post 1551052)
There are some folders which contain contact details/emails:
\mmcblk0p2\user\.rtcom-eventlogger\
\mmcblk0p2\user\.osso-abook\db\
\mmcblk0p2\user\.osso-abook-backup\db\
\mmcblk0p2\user\.modest\

and probably some other dirs that I missed.

uups, I mssed that.
Somehow I just assumed all personal data would be stored under mydocs!

juiceme 2018-11-27 09:39

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
OK, here is tha MyDocs tarfile from the device.
I removed all personal content from it; maemish_mydocs_27112018.tar

Android_808 2018-11-27 10:59

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Had a quick browse through to see if anything stands out. From what I can tell: they used public transport, they liked installing themes and Maemish is lucky it still works as they've been using N900Fly.

There are some wallpapers that look like they originate from Nokia that I don't recall. That doesn't mean a lot as I've never changed from the default bubbles.

Theres a few apps that stand out.
maemish_21112018.tar\maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\u sr\bin\
cisco-decrypt
cp-nemo
epconf
epconf-abook
epconf-mc-tool
epconftool
pcf2vpnc
rdesktop
rdesktop-m5ui

rdesktop is in extras-devel. Having just looked at the latest deb though, it does not create rdesktop-m5ui. Our package is dated 2010-02-09 14:10 UTC where as the guide mentioned below is dated 2011-02-03 so it would appear this is customized/updated.

Remote Desktop Guide:
maemish_21112018.tar\maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\u sr\share\rdesktop-m5ui\
maemish_21112018.tar\maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\u sr\share\epconf-sets\blue\ (Has a link to some related files, but doesn't seem to work).

Nemo? Has control panel icon. Banner mentions Check Point Software Technologies, who bought Nokia Security Appliance Business in 2009 (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/1...k_point_nokia/)
maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\usr\share\icons\hicolo r\scalable\apps\
Other icons in various size (18x18, 64x64) folders
maemish_21112018.tar\maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\u sr\share\icons\hicolor\

Hiro VPN:
maemish_21112018.tar\maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\u sr\sbin\
maemish_21112018.tar\maemish\mmcblk0p2\opt\maemo\u sr\share\pixmaps\hiro-vpn\

juiceme 2018-11-27 11:10

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Thanks, it is good that someone with knowledge goes thru the dumps to see if there are some hidden gems :)

My own competence mainly lies in the very early boot stage, usually before the children of init inherit the world :p

I assume I can return the device to @maemish now, as there probably is nothing more to dig out from it.

Maemish 2018-11-27 11:27

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
So you took everything from the current setup as well as from thr back up?

juiceme 2018-11-27 11:42

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1551176)
So you took everything from the current setup as well as from thr back up?

Well, the mmcblk0p2 dump is "complete image" so anything there is included. Of mmcblk0p1 (which means MyDocs) I tarred it as the partition dump is so huge, about 29GB so there is no sense in uploading that in its entirely. It was mostly empty really, only 500MB of content.

Android_808 2018-11-27 23:54

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
To save some time/ guess work regarding package info, did you manage to get dpkg -l (small L) output? I'm by no means an expert on any of this. Depending on apt cached db you might be able to get a list of available packages from the unknown repo.

I don't see much use in the other apps, given their age as a security product. The rdesktop-m5ui could have use if rdesktop is still actively maintained for Leste. The other VPN related bits, we would probably still be better off building up to date openvpn. I seem to recall someone even suggested it as a built in icd2 plugin.

juiceme 2018-11-30 10:03

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Android_808 (Post 1551194)
To save some time/ guess work regarding package info, did you manage to get dpkg -l (small L) output? I'm by no means an expert on any of this. Depending on apt cached db you might be able to get a list of available packages from the unknown repo.

I don't see much use in the other apps, given their age as a security product. The rdesktop-m5ui could have use if rdesktop is still actively maintained for Leste. The other VPN related bits, we would probably still be better off building up to date openvpn. I seem to recall someone even suggested it as a built in icd2 plugin.

Hi, sorry it took me a bit of time to get to it, am quite busy ATM.
Here's the dpkg packet list from the device.
maemish_packetlist

Maemish 2018-11-30 12:34

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
Anyone to check? I checked it halfway without understanding at all. If you don't understand anything you can continue from there. If you do understand start from beginning.

Android_808 2018-12-01 11:51

Re: Nokia N900 Enterprise Version
 
So, rdesktop is via rdesktop-maemo 1.6.0-2maemo1 and rdesktop-m5ui 1.0. Maemo repo is via rdesktop 1.7-maemo3. I only did a version check so i haven't looked at sources to see if patch for Maemo UI is in our version. We also have rdesktop-cli which could be equivalent to rdesktop-maemo. Haven't gone into Diablo/Chinook repo to see what we had there.


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