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Maemish 2020-03-24 16:13

N9 in 2020
 
I bought this N9 which I have offered here on Hint Links Thread. Well now my N900 has started to break down (problems keeping sim/cellular on and have lost the camera again. I think I could get all this fixed with reflash but I just would not wan't to do that at the moment.

So if I would start to use N9 in 2020, are there some ssl fixes or good browser options and where could I get the apps? I would really like to keep up with the phone camera competition.

Anyone still using N9?

juiceme 2020-03-24 17:29

Re: N9 in 2020
 
For usability, I'd suggest at least flashing to open mode and applying the emoji-sms patch to comms library.
I recall there were some alternate browsers, some mozilla nightly port maybe?

Maemish 2020-03-24 18:18

Re: N9 in 2020
 
I found the resurrect N9 page. It does only speak of Opera Mini 8.0 to be run in JavaVM but I can't find the files mentioned in the instructions any trustworthy site.

So I have now changed the repos to openrepos, installed the hack to be able to install Nokia apps with aegis, enabled developer-mode, installed warehouse and fromg there PhoneMe (JV) and Midlets package. But because I could not find the Opera Mini 8 packages I could not open any https site so no Maemo Talk either. Can't live without. My N900 looses the connection to sim all the time and no camera.

Halftux 2020-03-25 11:15

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1566219)
I could not open any https site so no Maemo Talk either.

Not all sites are limited to tls v1.2, so check your certificates and update them because N9 certs are outdated, thus most encrypted sites will not work.

Maemish 2020-03-25 14:29

Re: N9 in 2020
 
I don't know how to check or update certificates.

pichlo 2020-03-25 18:08

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1566228)
I don't know how to check or update certificates.

I can't blame you. I wish there was a simple way, like saving it somewhere on the device and installing it by tapping on it, but it seems the only way to update certs is by a software upgrade, which has not happened in years!

Halftux 2020-03-26 09:45

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pichlo (Post 1566233)
I wish there was a simple way

In some N9 update or refresh thread I posted links how to do it manually and I also made a deb for updating the certs. I am no N9 expert and this aegis stopped me using the N950, but what I can say with my deb the internal browser and also the opera mobile browser got new certificates. For the deb I made some version number increase, but it could be that some packages depend on this with a fixed version number, so it would be better to change the version number to the pr1.3 number again. But then you can't see the update by a version number.
However I think so far there were no complains, but also don't know if somebody tried the deb.
It could also be that my N950 behave different due to some hacks. For example I tried to install Opera mobile from openrepos with the gui and it was not possible, so I needed to use the commandline and it was working.

Will look if I could find my post about certificates.

Halftux 2020-03-26 10:52

Re: N9 in 2020
 
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So Opera mobile 12.1.1 supports TLS v1.2 and it is working with talk.maemo.org or openrepos or wikipedia.

The only thing is that openssl has weak chipers, but it should be possible to update openssl not to the newest branch but at least to some more current version.

For Opera you need to disable ssl 3.0 tls 1.0. For that type opera:config and goto Security Prefs select as shown in the screenshot, save and restart.

Here the links to my posts related to certificates.

https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...7&postcount=89
https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...9&postcount=94

edit: I don't know if it is necessary but in addition to openssl_0.9.8k-8maemo7+dbg+0m6 I also installed openssl1 package (version 1.0.0c-5+0m7)

Maemish 2020-03-26 14:43

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Not that easy with me. I first tried to install it straight with warehouse. Not possible. Read again the resurrect N9 thread. Aa, I have to first download it on a pc, then move it to phone and then do this aegis-dpkg thing. So I did that, but no sudo. So I have to enable root access by installing N9 QTweak. So I installed that and opened is and it was all black and a green text root password:

So what did I do? I wrote there rootme and hit enter. Then it started to do something and then it stopped and I couldn't anymore install things. So I am back with my reflashed N900 which I have now got configured and have camera working again but this device now constantly looses the connection to sim and network.

Maemish 2020-03-26 14:55

Re: N9 in 2020
 
I don't actually know why I wrote rootme there. I just did. Had read rootme somewhere and gave it a try. Not really knowing what I should have done. Found the QTweak thread here afterwards. But the virtualkeyboard of N9 compared to N900 keyboard is just too bad to use.

Boxeri 2020-03-26 19:55

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halftux (Post 1566247)
So Opera mobile 12.1.1 supports TLS v1.2 and it is working with talk.maemo.org or openrepos or wikipedia.

The only thing is that openssl has weak chipers, but it should be possible to update openssl not to the newest branch but at least to some more current version.

For Opera you need to disable ssl 3.0 tls 1.0. For that type opera:config and goto Security Prefs select as shown in the screenshot, save and restart.

Here the links to my posts related to certificates.

https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...7&postcount=89
https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?...9&postcount=94

edit: I don't know if it is necessary but in addition to openssl_0.9.8k-8maemo7+dbg+0m6 I also installed openssl1 package (version 1.0.0c-5+0m7)


Somehow I missed this back then. Wheres my N9, have to give this a try. If there would be even passable internet usage it would be nice to try that old gem again. By far the best phone for my usage I have ever tried.

Halftux 2020-03-26 20:54

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boxeri (Post 1566267)
Somehow I missed this back then. Wheres my N9, have to give this a try.

It was published not so long ago. I was not aware of the N9 problems, and when I recognized it, nobody uses the N9 anymore.:)
Anyway I had a look into it and the solution was quite straightforward. I published it but it is not well tested, but it only removes and adds certificates...

I have also a compiled openssl 0.9.8zh for N9 which on the first view seems to work.:)
But I don't have a clue about the role from openssl1 (v1.0.0) package. Until now I don't know if some package depends on it. But I guess it is there to compile new application against it, so you have two parallel openssl versions running. This means that old application will not profit from openssl1 package. And I don't know if a drop in replacement update will be possible like what was done with the N900.

Halftux 2020-03-26 21:24

Re: N9 in 2020
 
@Maemish sorry can't help you really with N9 because I have not enough experience to give advices for this device. But what I remember what promissing was, is to flash the open mode kernel.

Really annoying was when you have a perfect setup and you restart the mobile and it says something like this "you have modified the device software..." and a reflash was needed.

smartblu9 2020-04-11 15:01

Re: N9 in 2020
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by Maemish (Post 1566219)
I found the resurrect N9 page. It does only speak of Opera Mini 8.0 to be run in JavaVM but I can't find the files mentioned in the instructions any trustworthy site.

So I have now changed the repos to openrepos, installed the hack to be able to install Nokia apps with aegis, enabled developer-mode, installed warehouse and fromg there PhoneMe (JV) and Midlets package. But because I could not find the Opera Mini 8 packages I could not open any https site so no Maemo Talk either. Can't live without. My N900 looses the connection to sim all the time and no camera.

Here is my backup of Opera Mini ... Hope this help !

veeall 2020-06-02 18:47

Re: N9 in 2020
 
As i found out PhoneME java app only retains settings of a single app, so better not to try any other java app after using opera-mini-8.0.35626-advanced-en-us.jar or all saved bookmarks and speed dial will be deleted.

Also it is slow, and long press pops up meegos keyboard with no reason, which is annoying. But still, it could be helpful at times.

I have found firefox handy for few webages, for example, for checking gmail, though native email app still works for gmail if this howto is followed: https://medium.com/other-oses/awaken...e-a2dd596e540d


Native opera app for maemo.talk and linuxquestions.org.

Also, i have found few sites with the selection of n9 apps, sadly one of them, in poland, behind a paywall for apps over 1MB, but still i got phoneassist app from there which has 'vibrate when call is answered' feature.

Here are the links
https://chomikuj.pl/Traviss/Nokia+N9...a+N9+MeeGo+DEB

http://www.nokia-love.ru/load/46-1-2-0-0-10-0
https://allnokia.ru/symbsoft/n9/
good replacement calculator, scicalc:
https://allnokia.ru/symbsoft/moreinfo-6839.htm

I could upload all my apps into google drive and share a link here. Easy.

edit: Also, i suggest autolock app from the polish site, which locks the phone when proximity sensor is covered.

edit2: my link https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...lU?usp=sharing
I'm not sure about the working state of these apps, most are just randomly collected from over the net, and from openrepos, also from the another persons googledrive posted here in talk.maemo somewhere. Debinstall app can show the description of installable deb file upon installing, comes handy.

With some of these, the n9 can still be quite functional in 2020.

ViBE 2020-07-01 22:06

Re: N9 in 2020
 
whoa. i just found my modem failured N9. i wanted to test something and this little thing still powers up. sad that no way to fully place back on track this phone for daily use. so i just fired up and i wondered that freelancer devs still make updates for the N9. are there working IM's for this right now or WhatsApp/Skype/FB are dead forever? or maybe Telegram? my knowledge is a bit outdated about the community right now, so no clue any good happened meanwhile. and as i guess no working browser atm, right? :/

aspergerguy 2020-07-02 08:08

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ViBE (Post 1568142)
I guess no working browser atm, right?

You can tinker with Opera Mobile as here:http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...47&postcount=8

Surprised your N9 still booted up without using Harmattan flasher as seem to be slowly becoming extinct now.

nonsuch 2020-07-02 11:30

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ViBE (Post 1568142)
so i just fired up and i wondered that freelancer devs still make updates for the N9.

I think most "freelancer devs" have accepted that the current platform (Maemo/Meego Harmattan) is dead.
There are serious efforts to create a new platform, Maemo Leste. There's a subforum here on tmo.
Leste currently concentrates on Nokia N900 & Motorola Droid 4 hardware, but an image for N9/N950 also exists.
That said, many openrepos.net apps still work, and some Leste software efforts might be compatible with current Harmattan.

ViBE 2020-07-02 11:47

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspergerguy (Post 1568148)
You can tinker with Opera Mobile as here:http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...47&postcount=8

Surprised your N9 still booted up without using Harmattan flasher as seem to be slowly becoming extinct now.

the phone works well. only the modem is dead. of course nearly everything is outdated as hell but it's okay anyway.

ViBE 2020-07-02 12:16

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nonsuch (Post 1568154)
I think most "freelancer devs" have accepted that the current platform (Maemo/Meego Harmattan) is dead.
There are serious efforts to create a new platform, Maemo Leste. There's a subforum here on tmo.
Leste currently concentrates on Nokia N900 & Motorola Droid 4 hardware, but an image for N9/N950 also exists.
That said, many openrepos.net apps still work, and some Leste software efforts might be compatible with current Harmattan.

i guess so but enthusiasm is still around as i see. but why maemo? the restriction of the meego source code? i thought sailfish also can be an option on N9. sad that nokia let these things fall apart.

cuongle 2020-09-16 08:43

Re: N9 in 2020
 
I still having N950 in my hand on every day (I sold my N9 in along time ago). The device look too old but it still working very well. Especially perfect at hardware keyboard :)

Mivas_Greece 2020-10-22 20:11

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cuongle (Post 1569288)
I still having N950 in my hand on every day (I sold my N9 in along time ago). The device look too old but it still working very well. Especially perfect at hardware keyboard :)

I think N950 keyboard is my favorite too. I prefer it over Nokia E7 for instance, I had them in parallel for a while so I can really tell the difference. Really bad they cancelled Nokia Lauta, that would be the N9-like (more rounded), colorful version of N950 for the public. Very nice to see though that MeeGo can still be used up to some extend today.

chilango 2020-10-23 15:32

Re: N9 in 2020
 
For me to. The Lauta design an size, with more ontime Hardware and MeeGo OS still is an option for me.
Since Sailfish the UI was changed a long time ago. I still us sometimes my N9 with onboard SIP-Functionality

Mivas_Greece 2020-10-27 19:23

Re: N9 in 2020
 
Guys, since you mentioned keyboards, there will be a new keyboard-slider device in triple-boot if you haven't seen it already

https://www.androidauthority.com/fxt...ageos-1171939/

I would like to play with Ubuntu Touch, and probably Sailfish can be ported too.


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