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phoohb 2024-09-26 02:27
Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Hi

Hi I made a fresh install of "Maemo Leste" (on a SDHC Class10 card, ebay N900, -the old one the wifi stopped working on & and draining battery).

When I go into "Settings" and press on "Text Input", then the "Settings" closes (with message "Internal error. Application 'Settings' closed.")

The thingy is, in text editing, as in Xtreminal I can't get extra symbols (when pressing 'sym' on the keyboard, nothing shows up, so I can't pipe "|" etc).

Was hoping to resolve web -certificate issues, with this distro, but see now that the recommended browser is "links2"? (most https address are invalid on the stockOs).

Also I wonder if "postmarketOs" is anything to hope for? (I tested a pre-built n900 image, desktop "sxmo-de-dwm". But it seamed buggy, went into some hybernation/sleep loop and drained battery (used same SDcard btw). They have a "console" version though, Android floating keyboard worked though on the thingy I tested.)

Arno_11 2024-09-26 07:50
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
There is no real web browser working at the moment. Only Dillo and Links2 (GUI mode) are usable because they use less than 50MB of RAM.
However there is no certificate issues and TLS1.3 works fine with Leste.
Web browsing on N900 in 2024 is not a question of distro, that's a question of RAM unfortunately :(

Maemish 2024-09-26 07:58
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Have people tried the latest netsurf? Not everything opens but for basic web browsing and reading news etc. I found it to be best. There is also one for Fremantle with EasyDebbie and works well.

Arno_11 2024-09-26 17:55
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576248)
When I go into "Settings" and press on "Text Input", then the "Settings" closes (with message "Internal error. Application 'Settings' closed.")

The thingy is, in text editing, as in Xtreminal I can't get extra symbols (when pressing 'sym' on the keyboard, nothing shows up, so I can't pipe "|" etc).
If Settings closes with error, something is probably wrong with your install: did you extand rootfs ? Reboot ? Did you made all updates ? Devel upgrade ? (absolutely necessary at the moment on N900 and very stable with kernel 6.6 LTS).
Everything will be moved to stock img soon btw.

For extra symbols, you should press 'blue arrow' first, then 'sym' quickly.

phoohb 2024-09-26 19:39
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arno_11 (Post 1576251)
If Settings closes with error, something is probably wrong with your install: did you extand rootfs ? Reboot ? Did you made all updates ? Devel upgrade ? (absolutely necessary at the moment on N900 and very stable with kernel 6.6 LTS).
Everything will be moved to stock img soon btw.

For extra symbols, you should press 'blue arrow' first, then 'sym' quickly.
Yes, I extended rootfs. Yes, I rebooted. Yes, I update (also "apt update"). No, I did not "devel upgrade". And no "zram" thingy (dono what that was about).

Another thing, "Mypaint" didn't show up in the "App.manager", but existed in the apt -repository. I installed it, but was not what I remembered (I draw a line and half a minute later seeing it slowly appearing on the screen).

As for web-browsing, noticed suckless "Surf" was in the default "App.manager". And it worked (showing some https -webpages I didn't see previously). But I dono if I have the right setup to use "Leste", its slow on my (Chinese ebay) N900 SDHC-card, and seen unexpected reboots (seams best to have wall-power allthetime).

Arno_11 2024-09-26 20:27
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Apps in App Manager are extras packages from the Leste community.
MyPaint is a Devuan repo app, so absolutely not optimised for your device.
Zram is not needed, and not activated (even if you see messages about it), no worries
I recommend you to just dist-upgrade to -devel:
Add in /etc/apt/sources.list:

Code:
deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste chimaera-devel main contrib non-free n900
Then 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and reboot.

If the device become responsive with no lags, update is ok :)
If not, something is probably wrong with the device or the SDcard.

Note: fast battery draining and unexpected reboots are not 'normal' and not known issues AFAIK. Maybe your battery is faulty.

phoohb 2024-09-26 22:50
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arno_11 (Post 1576254)
I recommend you to just dist-upgrade to -devel:
Add in /etc/apt/sources.list:

Code:
deb https://maedevu.maemo.org/leste chimaera-devel main contrib non-free n900
Then 'apt-get update' then 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and reboot.
Oki, so I did that now, upgraded to "chimaera-devel", but the problem remains, same error message when pressing "Settings, Textinput" crash.

Maybe I attempt with another (newer sdxc) card, another day, dono.

When choosing to "Switch off" it remains on for a long time, its just the screen that looses backlighting (some text about X11 -log are barley visible). -I may just have pulled the battery once or twice, just tobe sure its off.

Arno_11 2024-09-26 22:59
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
X11 logs on shutdown is a known issue: the device turns off after around 90 seconds.

For the setting text input crash, i really don't know what's going on, sorry. Is your keyboard working fine btw ?

phoohb 2024-09-26 23:21
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arno_11 (Post 1576256)
X11 logs on shutdown is a known issue: the device turns off after around 90 seconds.

For the setting text input crash, i really don't know what's going on, sorry. Is your keyboard working fine btw ?
Yes the keyboard works, in stockOS, almost as good as the original, its the English version (dono I may have Swedish settings somewhere else), backlighting isn't very smooth though (dark in the middle).

Output of "strace controlpanel": ..
Code:
(controlpanel:3800): sapwood-engine-WARNING **: 00:17:51.966: sapwood-theme: Failed to load pixmap file /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/qgn_plat_separator_horizontal.png: Failed to connect to sapwood server using `/var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0': Connection refused

        `/sapwood-server' MUST be started before applications


(controlpanel:3800): sapwood-engine-WARNING **: 00:17:56.910: sapwood-theme: Failed to load pixmap file /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/RoundedSelection.png: Failed to connect to sapwood server using `/var/tmp/sapwood-:0.0': Connection refused

        `/sapwood-server' MUST be started before applications

"\0\0\27\344", 4)              = 4
read(3, "\v\0\0\0", 4)                  = 4
rt_sigaction(SIGHUP, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGQUIT, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGTERM, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGUSR1, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGUSR2, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigaction(SIGWINCH, {sa_handler=SIG_DFL, sa_mask=[], sa_flags=SA_RESTORER|SA_RESTART, sa_restorer=0xb6eb0831}, NULL, 8) = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, ~[RTMIN RT_1], [], 8) = 0
getpid()                                = 3799
gettid()                                = 3799
tgkill(3799, 3799, SIGSEGV)            = 0
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, [], NULL, 8) = 0
--- SIGSEGV {si_signo=SIGSEGV, si_code=SI_TKILL, si_pid=3799, si_uid=1000} ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
Segmentation fault

Arno_11 2024-09-27 15:05
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Weird errors with sapwood...seems to not run.
Did you modify something in xsession or ?

Are you able to find sapwood process with pgrep ?

If not, i think you should try again to run Leste from a fresh install.
(Do not install anything before dist-upgrade).

On my device, i don't see any error when running 'strace controlpanel' btw.

sicelo 2024-09-27 18:36
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576248)
I wonder if "postmarketOs" is anything to hope for?
You are welcome to use postmarketOS. I have personally found that in general, linux is linux, i.e. distro-hopping isn't really useful.

Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576248)
I tested a pre-built n900 image, desktop "sxmo-de-dwm". But it seamed buggy, went into some hybernation/sleep loop and drained battery
On my installation, I disabled suspend, so I did not experience that problem
Code:
touch /home/user/.cache/sxmo/sxmo.nosuspend
Anyway, the postmarketOS issue tracker is the best place to report those issues. I've scaled down my postmarketOS work, but if you open issues there, I will look at them when I have some free time. (yes, I am the maintainer for N900 packaging in postmarketOS)

Arno_11 2024-10-12 18:08
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576255)
Maybe I attempt with another (newer sdxc) card, another day, dono.
The sdxc seems not the problem, i tried a fresh install with last img and i got quite the same errors/bugs (slowness, keyboard symbols not working and input settings crashing).
Something seems wrong with dbus and gconf2 on last imgs.
As a workaround you could maybe download an old stable img from dec 2023 for example and dist-upgrade to very last stuff. (I'll try tomorrow)

phoohb 2024-10-22 20:56
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Oki, so I downloaded & tested a older version from 20231224, now the keyboard symbols and input-settings work. But, now I have other issues:
1. "App. manager" can't update anything, it had multiple sources (of same apparent Devuan? name) that could not be change from its menu, and "apt upgrade" never stops (over a 1000 packages tobe updated, 5 hours wait atm, and only done 50%, oki still on a micro-SDHC).
2. "Mypaint app" is still very slow.


Quote:
Originally Posted by sicelo (Post 1576259)
You are welcome to use postmarketOS. I have personally found that in general, linux is linux, i.e. distro-hopping isn't really useful.
Nah, Im just want; shttp for web to work, and good if "Mypaint" works as for Freemantle.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sicelo (Post 1576259)
On my installation, I disabled suspend, so I did not experience that problem
Code:
touch /home/user/.cache/sxmo/sxmo.nosuspend
Anyway, the postmarketOS issue tracker is the best place to report those issues. I've scaled down my postmarketOS work, but if you open issues there, I will look at them when I have some free time. (yes, I am the maintainer for N900 packaging in postmarketOS)
I giving up on "sxmo" (too quirky), -need tobe recompiled to configured. I will try "i3wm" version of postmarketOS next, similar tilting wm.

Arno_11 2024-10-23 06:43
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576288)
Oki, so I downloaded & tested a older version from 20231224, now the keyboard symbols and input-settings work. But, now I have other issues:
1. "App. manager" can't update anything, it had multiple sources (of same apparent Devuan? name) that could not be change from its menu, and "apt upgrade" never stops (over a 1000 packages tobe updated, 5 hours wait atm, and only done 50%, oki still on a micro-SDHC).
2. "Mypaint app" is still very slow.
Well, i recommend you to wait for the next stable image (depending of Wizzup spare time).

sicelo 2024-10-23 07:34
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576288)
2. "Mypaint app" is still very slow.
You can try overclocking the device. Even under Fremantle, MyPaint worked best when overclocked

Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576288)
I giving up on "sxmo" (too quirky), -need tobe recompiled to configured. I will try "i3wm" version of postmarketOS next, similar tilting wm.
You absolutely do not need to recompile anything for sxmo. As I already said before, if you have issues with sxmo on N900, report them in the sxmo IRC channel, the postmarketOS Matrix chat, or their gitlab instance. I can help you there. This forum is for and about Maemo only.

Arno_11 2024-10-23 16:41
Re: Settings -app crash, when pressing "Text Input"
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phoohb (Post 1576288)
2. "Mypaint app" is still very slow.
If your device is still very slow (meaning something is really wrong since Leste on N900 is quite fast now when updates are ok), i doubt overclock could help at the moment.
I think you should wait to get a clean and fast install before running Mypaint and overclock.

BTW i tried to install Mypaint on my device, it took around 2 minutes but something is wrong with icons and i can't run the app. Any tips to get it working ?


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