N800 $242 !!!
 

Wow, the floor fell out a lot sooner than I thought it would. Guess the N900 must be just around the corner.
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204055141

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yeah, you'd think it would have made it to 1 years old but you'd be wrong. then again, just ask Apple... :)

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I expect the typical product lifespan to be 18 months or so. That given, there should be at least a 3 to 6 month overlap between device platform iterations, so discounts at half to 2/3 of a product's life make a lot of sense to me. Discounts after 2 or 3 months, not so much.

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I know, I was just being a smart ***. ;) Jumping from #2046 to #9 on the sales chart can only be a good thing.

And considering it was launched in January and we're fast approaching the holiday buying season, this makes perfect sense.

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I knew that. :p

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Can I just add this is nothing compared to phones. If you want the latest mobile phone with the latest features, even from a single manufacturer, you'd have to buy a new device every month (which a few crazy people actually do).

Even a single model can have several new hardware versions within a year (eg. wifi added, more ram, bigger screen etc).

Having the latest hardware iteration of portable devices seems to be getting less and less financially plausible. Hopefully though manufacturers will keep the same versions of software platforms for many years, so it doesn't really matter which device you have as long as it's part of the current platform.

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That's 171 euros! I bet the european price will stay at 399. I'm not really happy to have bought one just a couple of weeks ago for 80 euros more (bought from the states on ebay). My usual luck :(

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Now that is a good price! That is one good way of keeping N800 competitive with other new and "similar" consumer products, smart move Nokia.

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It happens to us all. Whenever you buy a gadget nowadays, there will either be a price cut or a new device just a few months away. It all moves so quickly now.

When I got a first home computer in the 1980s, it was a ZX Spectrum, which received commercial software releases on shop shelves from 1982 to about 1993, it had something like 10,000 games and apps released for it. It still has amateur software support 25 years later, with new game cassettes still being manufactured.

Nowadays you'd be lucky to find any hardware platform which is supported after two years. Maybe the games consoles, but even they are abandoned after about 4 or 5 years.

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Omg I Paid $600 I Mean $400 6 Months Ago And Nokia Drops The Price I'm Gonna Sue Give Me My Money Back Or At Least A Gift Certificate To The Apple I Mean Nokia Store

(Awww... wtf... it changed my wonderfully sarcastic all caps text into that! Booooooooooooooooooooo!)

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You know a lot of things, Texrat! Especially about things *we* want to know about!

I'm just curious if this is based on a new MSRP or not. Nokia's site still says $399, but knowing the direct biz, home store prices will always be the highest.

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Looks like the N800 on Amazon.com dropped about $70 in price recently as well:

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N800-Int...dp/B000MK4GGM/

$280. Considering I have about $100 worth of amazon.com gift certs right now... well gee, happy halloween to me!

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I have been stalking these forums for months now I finally ordered a N800.(The price change gave me the push I needed) I had a gift certificate for Amazon and ordered a 8gig SDHC card.

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Ordered one! :D

Can't freakin wait! Though I decided to save moneyz and went with the Budget shipping. 7 to 9 days. :(

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Congratulations!

Don't forget to update the N800's firmware before you use the SDHC card, to make sure that you have the bug-fixed version.

Updating with Windows PCs
http://europe.nokia.com/A4305010

Updating with Linux PCs
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWT...yFlashing%2529

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Price dump? What price dump? Amazon.fr still lists it for 419 EUROS... sheesh :-)

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Now showing out of stock at target, 1 left at amazon. Still in stock at buy.com.

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Heh. I got paid Monday. My wife liked my N800 so much, she ordered one for herself on Monday. At the old price ($350 though amazon). We thought we were getting a great deal on it.

Still, even though I bought mine 1 mo ago for full price through Nokia, I'm still happy with it. I can't count the number of times, since 25 years ago when I got my first computer, where a newer better computer came out right after I bought one (or the one I bought got significantly cheaper; or both).

Bought an Apple II+ just a couple months before the Apple IIc came out.
Bought an Apple IIe just a couple months before the Apple IIgs came out.
Bought a Gateway 486sx33 just a couple months before the started a program where you could update to a newer generation machine that comes out within the next year of when you buy, for a steep discount (and then they started doing Pentiums within a year after that).
Bought a Pentium Pro just a few months before the release of the Pentium II.
Bought a first generation Palm Pilot just a few months before the back-lit version came out.
Bought a Powerbook Titanium first generation just a few months before the white iBook came out (which would have been just fine for me, and much cheaper).
Bought an igloo iMac just a few months before the panel iMac came out.

I think the ONLY tech device I've ever purchased that had a long life before a successor came out was a Sega Genesis.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the WiMax or keyboard version of the N800 comes out before Christmas. It's just the way these things go for me :-) And, most importantly, I'm happy with the N800 as it is. Even if the "N900" comes out tomorrow, I'm still happy with the N800.

That said... I'll probably be ready to buy an N900 (or whatever it'll be called) in January :-)

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I'm not entirely sure that price is for a new N800. You'll see that below that offer is a link to 3 New from $350.00

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...which is ironic as the successor to the Genesis/Megadrive was the Saturn, which no one seemed to want!

I could be wrong about this but I believe the Genesis/Megadrive was actually still in production (as a budget console made under licence) after the Saturn stopped production.

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WiMax version not coming out until 2008. That's official (not from me though).

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I am guessing that the price drop is to compete with iPod touch which sells for $299.

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Now it's at 232.99! I just bought one to replace my 770 and will be selling my Archos 605 as well!

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Hmm... interesting. Hadn't thought of it that way.

That would explain why there's no price drop in Europe, the iPod Touch costs $500 here, the same as the N800.

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That does make sense. Get a 8gig sdhc card and the price is a little over $300

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Apple sauce anyone? ;)

The price drop was expected by most here I think, but I didn't think it would drop this low so fast. At this price, I'm thinking I might be able to grab a couple for Christmas presents. I hope there's not a shortage because of it though.

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That's cool, gives my wallet a chance to breath a little after my N95-3 purchase. :)

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This sucks. I was planning on selling mine out of disgust from it being in repair for over two months, but now I'll be losing money on it if I do. :(

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Click here before shopping:

http://www.buy.com/retail/coupon.asp?prid=88301879

add it to your cart, then find the N800 and your total comes to $222.99.

Cheers!

Espoo, we have a problem...
 

It's at 349€ on Amazon Germany now. I should say that I am not surprised: the iPod touch is at 299€, including 8 GB, and that is a very nice internet tablet indeed.

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There's no price drop in europe because either we are not so good at maths or as consumers we are *****s, because there's no other possible reason that we gladly accept an exchange rate of 1 dollar=1 euro.
Either one or the other, but the manufacturers know that, so they get away with it.

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I can't agree with you on "very nice internet tablet".

* iPod Touch has read-only calendar, read-write contacts, single-vendor music player and store, web browser, no native email client, no native software add-ons (and, they REMOVED its read-only notes capability, which all previous iPods had ... and the iPhone had as a read-write notes capability).

* N800 has two different read-write calendar options, read-write contacts, read-write notes, read-write draw, multiple music source options, multiple music player options, web browser, native and add-on email capabilities, one (and soon two) VOIP options (incl. video chat), built in IM, add-on IM options, camera add-on, tons of native software add-ons


To me, the main weakness of the N800 is that it doesn't have native syncing ability with a major external service. With the Touch, you can sync to Mac apps and your Mac apps can sync to things like .mac (I don't know if you can sync to any PC apps or not). With the N800, I only know of using erming to sync gpe-calendar to google calendar. That's not really enough, IMO. Nokia really needs to work with Google, IMO, and provide a native calendar program that will sync to google calendar, extend the native contacts to sync with gmail contacts, and get google bookmarks to support "folders" and then sync the native bookmarks with google bookmarks.

(right now, I use netvouz.com bookmarks because delicious and google only do tags, and not folders; netvouz does both)

A native version of google's mobile gmail client would be good, too (for off-line reading of email).


There are some interface things to like about the Touch/iPhone, but none of them are enough to overcome all of the disadvantages of the Touch, IMO. I can't use the Touch to login and fix a server, if I happen to be away from the office. At least, not without risking the wrath of the next Apple update bricking my Touch or iPhone. It would be nice if the finger capabilities of the N800 were a bit more complete (it can some times be hard to force the large icons to come up, etc; and the screen isn't nearly as finger-print resilient as the Touch/iPhone), but the stylus isn't nearly as much of a drawback as Steve Jobs made it out to be. And the stylus gives some precision options that the Touch/iPhone don't have (wouldn't want to do a detailed drawing on the Touch/iPhone, having only fingers available ... but the stylus on the N800 allows for nice sharp drawings). It'd also be nice to have portrait/landscape switching on the N800, but it wouldn't have to be auto-magic the way the iPhone/Touch do it. A simple top-button (near the full screen, zoom, and power buttons) would be good enough for me.


I had been researching the PDA/UMPC that I wanted to buy since January, with the earliest announcement of the iPhone. In early September, I still saw no notion of legitimate 3rd party apps for the iPhone, a significant drop in functionality for the Touch (not just "iPhone - phone", but much less than that), and decided "the N800 is the way to go". With Apple's iPhone 1.1.1 update, I'm feeling rather vindicated in that decision.

So, no, the iPod Touch is not, in my opinion, a "very nice internet tablet". It's a music player with an eye/finger candy interface, and a barely acceptable level of internet functionality. Given the price comparison between the Touch and the N800 ... the N800 is WAY ahead in terms of functionality.

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I agree.

I just bought my N800 a couple of weeks ago for 330Euros. And there is no price drop in Germany. Germans like all Europeans are just 2nd class customers to most companies. We get products later for a much higher price.

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That huge price price gap between the USA and Europe is a nice opportunity to make some quick €. Ordering a whole bunch of these things could be a wise move.

Anyway, just wanted to thank you guys since I found that offer through your forum. If the international shipping fee isn't too high I will order one :)

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Don't you have to pay taxes? Me and my friends ordered HDDVDs once in the US and I think we had to pay additional taxes.

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Yes, this is often forgotten by individual importers, but in theory you're meant to pay customs duty on all goods sent between the EU and US/NAFTA.

In practice the customs people don't seem to notice 100% of packages, but it's their job to add an extra charge to any products you buy from one trade bloc and import into another. The charge is supposed to depend on the type and value of the product, and you have to pay it at the post office before they let you have the package.

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However this doesn't justify the retail price difference between usa and europe: most goods are manufactured outside of the usa and europe, so the official manufacturer/importer has to probably to pay a similar amount in custom duties for both markets (e.g. the n800 is manufactured either in korea or finland, if the latter there's no custom for eu countries, so it should be even cheaper than in the states).
Then there's VAT, but that is at most 20% (16% in spain), and even so many retail outlets advertise the price without vat (it isn't the case of nokia, where the 399 euros is with vat included).

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And the funny thing is the n800 is $280 and the n770 is $300 on amazon:)

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According to the sticker in the back (next to the battery), it's manufactured in Korea.

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like mine. And I read there are units manufactured in finland, so my remark "either korea or finland". My main argument is valid anyway: there are import duties from korea both in the states and in the eu, so it's not a justification for the price difference.
Come on nokia, this is an internet tablet, a product for internet geeks, and we know how to check things on the internet.