Another Media Player © for Maemo :)
 

Well, Hello world :)
I want to know your opinion before starting. We (My friend Krum and me) have decided to create a media player. We know, that there's a lot of MPs around for Maemo like Kagu and UKMP and even just system player :). They are great and handy, but we have an idea of another player concept. A player, that can arrange playlists on its own, show subtitles and have a nice and handy GUI overlay for video playback and (one of the most) - to be handy and useable in non-fullscreen mode. And we want to know the opinion of the community bout this crap xD Maybe you have some requests?) Thanks for the attention :)

P.S.: Top secret! Screenshot of playlist organizing screen xD
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/7...ayersw0.th.jpg

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Well, post a beta version or something so that we can test it and tell you our opinion. Only from a screenshot no one can say if it's good or bad. :)

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I think one kind of player that is missing in Maemo world is simple, no nonsense directory based player that doesn't try to be annoyingly smart and just plays all files in a directory sorted by file name (or provides effective way to create playlists based on what's already organized in the file system). Another area to concentrate on is proper support of various formats (like ogg and flac) and also on important but always neglected things like gapless playback. Maybe it's just me, but any new development effort that doesn't address these issues in any way is just pointless.

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Kilikali.

I admit that the interface might be just a tad too simple and unintuitive (as in: not at all like an iPod) for some.

For me, its great: It plays music, doesn't waste precious cycles on eyecandy and sits on my N800. What more is there to want?

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Kilikali is not quite there yet. Interface needs some work (at least basic controls should not be buried under menu) and ogg support is far from world class - it takes too much CPU, so pretty much everything else you do interrupts playback. Nice can help a bit but suboptimal performance of ogg decoder seems to be the real problem... And there are other interesting and useful formats. And there's gapless playback (or lack thereof). So please, all people who think of addressing multimedia issues on n800, stop solving non-problems and do something useful. Album artwork, kinetic scrolling, parsing tags and organizing music and whatever else existing players do are nice, don't get me wrong, but without the basics none of these advanced features are really useful.

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A Video Player (front-end for mplayer?) with bookmarks and resume play would be great :)

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Need a video player with adjustable skip amounts, pause, resume. Hopefully, with more codecs, or an easy way to find/install codecs.

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On the music playing side , this is what i would love to see,aside from the great features youve already mentioned:

1. the ability to turn off id3 tag info and just have it display file names without it showing the .mp3 and etc. at the end.

2. the ability to choose not to display album art.


3. on the now playing screen (or whatever you call it) a nice finger friendly interface like kagu would be nice , so i can see and select certain song when i have it mounted in the car like i do but with bigger skip , previous , and play/pause buttons


4. any easy way to make skins for it possibly , or be able to go with the current system theme you are running (especially nuvoblack)


5. a visualization of a spectrum analyzer would be awesome



6. on the screen where you see artist , album , playlist...etc. , the ability to order those items , as i would want playlists at the top


on the video playing side:



1. the ability to display either thumbnails or just finger friendly title bars (like id want in music player ala kagu)


2. most definitely the abilty to add codecs


3. as was said above... a scroll bar , theres alot of movies where i want to skip the intro credits , as there is nothing happening


thats about all i can think of at the moment lol

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Thanks for all requests, we're very apreciate attention! Most of them were added to "come tru" list :) Now we're working on gapless playback, cause it's No.1 feature in all requests :) We'll show you some stuff when it will be done for sure :) Thanks again, keep on requesting!

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^^^^Agree 100%

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Two things I really want from a good media Player:

1. Manual Playlist editing. God, I am fed up of "smart" organizing sorting in it's very own way the songs. I just want an option given a playlist with the songs A B C D with simple dragging or two buttons "Move Up"/"Move Down" make it A C B D. Or D B C A.

2. Equalizer. Equalizer. Equalizer. How can we not have even one player with even the most simple Low/Middle/Treble bands ?!??

P.S. Krum? Slavonic? Bulgarian?

Re: Another Media Player © for Maemo :)
 

+1

I'm just writing something similiar you are describing in Java. The bad side is that Nokia's Java support is very stupid so I'm still waiting for better Java support.

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Nope, we're from snowy (now :( ) Russia ;)

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There's a php script called mplayer-resume that that will do exactly this. Just add a line to menu.conf to create a bookmark option in the osd menu. Something like <e name="Bookmark" ok="get_time_pos"/> in the cmdlist section.

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This is -- almost-- exactly what I was looking for.

A few questions:

1. Is PHP support already on the N800 or do I need to find it somewhere alse?

2. It would be nice to bind get_time_pos to one of the hardware keys, but I believe mplayer on the N800 already uses all of them. Any ideas?

[edit] Maybe the exit key could be linked to both exiting mplayer and getting the value for get_time_pos? But how?

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(Loads media content with speed of a music player) I have Kugu and Ukmp but start up is hell the more songs you have the longer it takes to load, some might say why do I have them both, Kugu looks great and it's the best music player on any ones n800, UKMP I like the youtube feature other than that I just would like to touch my screen and hear my music or watch a video or movie when the program only takes about 5 seconds to load.

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You will have to install the
php package.

You're right, there don't seem to be any free buttons. I suppose one of the pairs of seek buttons could be move into the menu (UP/DOWN or LEFT/RIGHT) to free something up. I've looked into mapping two commands to a single key, but didn't have any luck with it.

What really bothers me is that I can't get the mime settings to work for mplayer. I'd like to be able to launch it from the file browser. I really hate gmplauncher.

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You can do that in Kagu. playlist songs can be moved by holding the album icon in the lower right of the screen and pressing up/down on the dpad.

We'd have buttons for this, but screen space is rather at a premium.

You can also Save custom named playlists in the latest version of Kagu.


I think that's an issue with the underlying sound system. So until it's built into the OS, probably not real easy to do.

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huh. Scanning might take a while in Kagu (album art downloads and all that), but startup should always be constant time for the number of songs in your archive.

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Thanks.

Dang. It seems so logical: whenever you exit a movie, the player automagically stores its position. No hassle, no worries, no buttons to remember...

Meh. It's not the greatest interface, but it works -- kinda. Truncating the filenames a bit wouldn't hurt it though...

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What bothers me about gmplauncher is that is automatically searches for media to add. It's a feature I don't have any use for. Just give me a config file where I can define my media folders. What makes it worse is I have a few folders that contain a huge number of text/html files and now every time a media crawler runs it takes over the cpu for 5-10 minutes. I suppose I can nice the crawlers, but I'd just as soon be rid of them entirely.

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Um what's with the sound system? Isn't the equalizer affecting the media directly? I mean on a friend's machine, when using some kind of CD Burning tool (Just can't remember it's name, it was for Windows) there was an option to record AudioCDs with equalizered (not normalized!) songs. So I thought it does have nothing to do with the sound system.
Excuse me if I'm talking nonsense, I have absolutely no idea of media playback (except for directly playing uncompressed audio stream in .NET 2.0 (: )