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What woud you realistically like to see in the N900?
I know it's early, but it's fun to dream, isn't it?
Here's the mighty question. What features would realistically you like to see in the N900 -- stage 4 of Nokia's 5 stage plan. Perhaps, Nokia will take some of our brainstorming seriously, and consider implementing some of them as features! I'll start. I'd really like to see wireless charging for the N900. Electrical induction has been known since the mid-1800. We have toothbrushes and razors that can charge themselves free of wires, but this technology eludes more sophisticated electronics. I'd like for my N900 to wirelessly charge itself whilst in my jacket pocket in a house, a cafe, or an office, car, or wherever wireless power transmitters can be found. I would like to say goodbye to the socket for good. Science fiction? Not really, the technology is based on the same basic principles that allow WiFi (and MANY other technologies) to work. In fact, take a gander at the PowerCast Corporation, that is looking to mass produce the technology: powercastco.com. Here's an article at laptopmag.com talking about the technology. Failing this, I would like a battery that has the receiver built into it, so that I at least have the option of adding it into the N900 at a later date, or upgrading it if power transmissions standards suddenly change. An always on tablet would be a KILLER feature. I can see Apple releasing a feature like this in their next PDA (the upcoming newton) and being heralded for another "first". :rolleyes: What is your idea for the perfect tablet? }:^)~ YARR!! <captian>Corrupt</captain> |
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stage 4 is n8** with WiMax.
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the ability to change cellular providers, and not be locked into Sprint. They have the worst coverage in my area, albeit some of the fastest data connections.
if the next gen device has WiMax, which is not 4G but really 3G, i would like to be able to get my cell service through my current provider and not a lock-in deal with Sprint. maybe a 2-4 MegaPixel camera with zoom, flash and video capture as well. a better, more power efficient bluetooth adapter with A2DP support. both SD cards on the n800 have to included in the next device as well. a wireless card that supports packet injection. and of course more memory and CPU |
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If they add inductive charging, I really really hope they keep the wired charger! Inductive charging is much slower and less efficient than just plugging the thing in.
I'd much prefer to have the option of charging through USB (without an adapter) and a higher capacity battery. |
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600mhz CPU + KDE I did not have to compile myself, other than that I like th 810 form from the pics... Although I have not held one myself.
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Realistically?
Realistic, but unlikely?
Not. Gonna. Happen.
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@cairn
I completely agree. Until wireless power is fast and ubiquitous, there should be more traditional methods. Charging through the micro-USB would be great, and likely free up some internal room -- valuable room that could be used for an infrared LED!! In fact, while you're at it, a simple micro-USB to headphone adapter would also be nice to get rid of the headphone jack -- but ONLY under the condition that it supports HiFi output through the adapter. A major benefit here, is it can be engineered to easily physically disconnect if it is forced/pulled too hard. This is a big deal for me as I've had MANY 3.5" wear over time from heavy use, that are not easily fixed. Having to live with mono out of a stereo port isn't fun and I imagine would be less fun after spending $500+ on a device. The obvious con to this scenario, is only having one wire connected at a given time. Of course, with two micro-USBs, you get increased functionality while maintaining multiple connections. So it's settled: inductive charging and 2 micro SDs [*edit* USB's] (charging, mic, etc). :D }:^)~ YARR!! Capt'n Corrupt | tpurroC n'tpaC |
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You mean 2 micro USB, please no micro SDs ;)
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Haha... Yes, ColdFusion, that's what I mean!
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I'd want the development to continue along the N800-line (instead of N810), perhaps including a N910 spinoff again. This means I'd prefer the N900 not to include too many hardware features but rely on bluetooth accessories. It also means that storage capacity should go up again.
The fundamental design is really great the way it is. I'd of course expect more horsepower from a new device, but else? Maybe a better camera so it can at least compete with what my cell phone has (2Mpix). I do a lot of mobile blogging, and moving pix from any external device to the tablet is an unnecessary step. So the cam should just about be good enough for some pictures to add to my blog. Of course, the hard cover is a must. Speaking of it, I'd expect the N900 to be sturdy, robust, a real 'on the go' device that you take out in the rain, in a sandstorm and whatever else you find yourself in. The idea of accelerometer-based screen rotation is nice. I think I'd use it a lot when surfing: I spend a lot of my time on text-only sites and text is so much easier to read on a narrow but tall screen. Some details... Get rid of this mysterious design issue with the video bandwidth and such. Don't use hardware components that require proprietary drivers. Everything else is software, I'd say. New codecs (OGG Vorbis and Theora!), A2DP, Java, syncing contacts and calendars, whatever we miss... its software. Mhm... seems I dont really have a long list, do I? Maybe the tablets are right just the way they are. |
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- accelerometers + full support for it (auto-rotating and usable interface in portrait mode)
- big comeback of FM radio - ogg, flac support - more CPU, RAM and internal memory (with big enough internal disk additional card slot won't be necessary) - better layout of keyboard and buttons (assymetry of slider is worrying me) - second camera for taking photos (with smart optics you can use only one matrix) - OpenGL support - charging through micro-USB - real USB host mode - bigger screen without increasing of form factor or keep resolution but shrink size further (get rid of D-pad completely? see keyboard layout) - WiMax - good PIM, Office suite (preferably Kontact and KOffice :) |
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Seeing as how we are in a "dream" state, I'll add my wishes...
1. I'd like to see a "pop-up" vanity mirror for when we do video chat we can make sure we look good! (Ustream here we come!) :p 2. An expresso coffee unit either as a USB attachment or built-in so ThoughtFix and I can get our coffee fixes. ;) 3. Software to interact with my truck this winter to be able to start the engine from the comfort of my bed... and have it warmed up by the time I'm ready to go. :rolleyes: 4. A built-in help system that has instructions on playing Bejeweled (or whatever the heck its called). ... just to name a few. I have more, just ask. :) Regards... Omega :cool: |
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A set (say, six or so) of legs so that i can whistle to my tablet and it comes walking to me.
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Yes WiMAX! Time for a little speculation....
As soon as WiMAX is widespread, it's going to open the floodgates for VoIP providers. They will be able to compete with cell carriers with EXTREMELY low rates, often offering free calling between an increasing numbers of VoIPers. The extra consumer money will be re-routed back into various "WiMAX access plans" with bandwidth caps for the corporations lucky enough to provide coverage. This will keep the end consumer prices at a slow steady (though inevitable) decline, as they scramble to determine new ways to make money with zany service schemes. Google will offer the gPhone as a free method of calling with ads and be heralded as "internet geniuses" though the device will be primitive (but low cost) and green. Apple will announce an iPhone with WiMAX, free calling, and flash 10 browser support to an adorning crowd. Microsoft will scramble to make a crappy knock-off product featuring SilverLight under the guise of originality... The irony.. The N900 will rule them all in terms of quality with a mature software library, mature hardware, and all the features one could want. The bandwidth race will begin as information transfer (especially between users) demands grow exponentially. The convergence of all information (Video/hyper-text/Audio) will be beamed into the pockets and homes of all patrons. The N900 will be the first pocketable device to support them all, plus have the horsepower to handle advanced features such as voice recognition, accelerated 3D games, grid computing, etc. WiFi will still exist as a free alternative to costly WiMAX coverage, and will be increasingly available in buildings. }:^)~ YARR!! GPS Mapt'n |
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Wi-fi and US-wide Wi-Max. Which mean the N900 might never materialize.
Sprint is still rolling out wi-max though, so there's hope. |
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1) tilt screen instead of a kick-stand
2) screen slides only (not the whole face) 3) 2 dpads, centered vertically left and right. Prefs would choose 1 to be an actual dpad, and the other to be a button cluster (up=zoom in, down=zoom out, left= escape/back, right = home, center=menu). 4) microUSB client with charging, mircoUSB-OTG 5) microSD card (2 would be nice) 6) micro-DVI video out (with DVI-A support) 7) Bluetooth PAN (and retain Bluetooth DUN) 8) Ability to control a cell phone via bluetooth (tablet acts as a hands-free device, displaying caller-id, accepting or rejecting calls, initiating calls from its contacts list) 9) Full support for integrating with bluetooth hard drives (Seagate DAVE and Agere BluOnyx) 10) picture cam on the back (don't care either way about the chat cam) with better resolution/quality than the chat cam; bonus if it'll do video as well as stills 11) SIP phone client |
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A SIP client that works through a VPN tunnel would be nice.
That's NOT present on any Internet Tablet at the moment and even OS2008 won't have it from what's been said in the bugzilla report on it. Some of us work at places where the Asterisk servers are behind Cisco PIX firewalls and would like to be able to have a "work phone" anywhere there's wi-fi. |
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I'm a little too close to this device to provide any real feedback, from the Nokia perspective, but I do have a few comments:
- Someone mentioned full phone proxy capability via bluetooth. - Should include SMS and MMS minimum - If we have to carry around a phone, keep it in your pocket/purse - The form factor is great, as it is. Only, increase the pixel density. - Improved tactile feedback on the hardware keyboard. - More room on the hardware keyboard for those of us with fat fingers. - Video recording. Hey, why not? - Complete interface restructuring. - Take pictures. Again, why not? - Built in web server to serve aforementioned photos automatically. - Better CPU and hardware decoders. |
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a bigass™ battery would be nice. one that could go around 12 hours with wifi and gps running.
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Hi, if I can add to the conversation, I'd personally suggest to also write on the lines of "What would I like to be able to do with the tablet", instead of only purely technical lists of MOAR processing power, ram, sd slots, capacity, file formats, tilts and whatnots.
At the end of the day, technological progress will of course go on, as it always has. If a particular device has a 400mhz chip or a certain amount of ram of whatever, of course these numbers will increase in the future. But once the number goes to ... whatever the numbers then go to, then someone will request a larger number. A request like "more hard keys" is imho a bit pointless - it all depends on what you would want to do with the device. For some use cases then the way to achieve it would be to add hard keys or whatever, and for other to remove even the ones that the device currently has. Perhaps you have already thought of these real use cases in your mind, but it would be great if you would not skip those when heading straight for the technical details. :) (This is not to say that the technical details aren't also important, but at least I'd like to see what use cases you would want to _enable_ by adding those technicalities.) |
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er, a version that's a small touchscreen internet tablet (similar to the N810) that reveals a button layout so you can game like it's a Nintendo DS (I haven't used a DS). Keep the camera, etc. and keep it so fbreader is just as convenient to use. I don't know if that's realistic because I can't think of how to pull it off well
I mainly would like to see convenient to carry around in regular pocket (or belt loop or anyhow?) and designed to be usable for 3+ years to get the most value I realistically can Right now the N800 is inbetween cargo pocket vs regular pocket, go one way or the other ;) |
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I need a reak SIP app, so that i could connect to my providers sip, where I have free calling. |
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I want this thing to be my home phone handset :-) |
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gizmophone is probably tied to gizmo, I don't know (though I believe you can use another provider), but rtcom (the latest update, about one month old) has standard sip capabilities.
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isn't rtcom still in development?
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I could write a list, but to me the General's list seems to cover it. And maybe throw in wimax, if feasible (for power requirements etc.).
And yes, we could of course also list what we want to do with it instead, as Ragnar suggests.. which sounds reasonable. However, what I've found over the time is that sometimes it's actually better to list the hardware requirements, because after a while (because of having been bitten before, and also the opposite) you develop a feel for what kind of features will open up the possibilities for you in the directions you want. So, a hw list it is, this time! ;) |
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1) Expansion card support (e.g. to add a WiMax card or another communications card)
2) Good PIM and Office (so I can finally get rid of my Laptop) 3) 2 microSD cards 4) video out 5) SIP Phone 6) Bluetooth with possibility of controlling cell phones and other bluethooth devices (e.g. HD) 7) Faster processor and more internal memory .. and keep the SW open source! |
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I would love to see a good PIM suite, and *maybe* some office-type applications. It's surprisingly hard to get any full-on office work done on such a small screen; I've tried it on Palms and other PDAs with mixed success. --A lot of scrolling involved. Please, no microSD! Standard SD/SDHC only, as smaller cards will always lag the larger cards in density. And finally, please do NOT include a phone! I don't want to have to pay a monthly fee to keep my device working or compromise even further on other functions to fit the additional chipset in. Larry |
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I later used a Newton 2100 messagepad, again as my main computer, for another three years, with similar results, albeit that the Newton's office applications were slightly less well-designed. It's not the screen size that is the problem, it's the software... |
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Also: 1- increase screen res. to 1024*600 2- (much) bigger battery (or even 2 batteries which can be hot-swapped 1 at a time) - My XDA had a HUGE battery 3- PIM suite (contacts, calendar, todo) which can sync to outlook for work purposes 4- decent IMAP client - I use claws-mail and it works, but it's very finger-friendly 5- double CPU/RAM (needs the battery upgrade first tho) 6- replace the d-pad with something like the track-ball on a blackberry, and put one on the sliding keyboard and one on the front., they're small enough that it should work induction charging would be very nice, a-la splash power, but not a requirement |
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and Wi-Max as an option, so that I don't have to pay for something I can't use. and NO PHONE. I've got a drawer full of them to pick from :)
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- Keyboard
- Good camera and video calls with Skype. |
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I understand the need for more pixels, but not in a device this size. |
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A 4.3" screen squeezed into that same nice 810 form factor.
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Bigger resolution means troubleless running of regular desktop applications on tablet. Common usability/accessibility requirement is fitting of all dialogs into 800x600 pixels.
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I would like to see a good D-pad and gaming controls along with openGL support for accelerated 3D games.
This could make the Internet Tablet OS THE main competitor for the GP2X linux system. I would love to see that (emulators, cool!!) :-) Also I would like good support for windows media video files and streams. It seems that the next OS update will have support, but I'll believe it when I see it. I would like to be able to view the files from http://www.uitzendinggemist.nl Also a TV-out option would be very welcome. (just normal composite would be fine for me. The N810 isn't just a Internet Tablet anymore, it is also a Car navigation system. I hope Nokia makes the N900 a portable gaming device in addition to the Internet Tablet part :-) Come to think of it: a build in Hard drive would also be interesting. But MOST importantly ANY new device SHOULD NOT be any bigger! I want to be able to carry it in my pocket. |
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