[Palm OS] Hotsync
 

Ok, dumb question I know, but I'm not sure how to hotsync the n800 with the desktop. It asks for hostname or IP address. My IP changes. What is hostname?

thanks,

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Make sure you have got Hotsync running on your desktop machine with the option to sync over network ticked (right click the hotsync tray icon and make sure there is a tick next to network)

The IP address you need to enter is the local IP address of your desktop machine - probably 192.168.1.something. You can find out what it is if you don't know by clicking Start - Run and enter cmd
then type ipconfig and checking the IP address shown for Ethernet Adapter local area

Don't try putting in your host name - it is unreliable.

As long as you are connected to the same LAN as your N800 this should work. Works for me....

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Ok, got it. Thank you!

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This is where I hit a roadblock. I've entered the IP addresses for 3 different computers that have a Palm desktop but I keep getting the same error message: Unknown Host. Disabling the firewall on the computer doesn't fix the problem.HELP!!

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Kan you 'ping' that desktop IP address from the N800? (You'll have to start osso-xterm and, with the standard N800 ping, do 'sudo gainroot' first. So you'll need 'becomeroot' installed as well.)

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I appreciate the quick response, but unfortunately, it sounds like a recipe for Italian food. :-) Seriously, I'm assuming its Linux-speak because I'm fairly proficient at Windows, but this is my first Linux based device. If you could back up a bit and walk me thru the steps, I think I could answer your question. Thanks.

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Ok.
Assuming you have the IP address of your desktop at hand (which you can get from e.g. 'ipconfig' as mfresh described:

• You need to have osso-xterm installed on your N800
• You need to have becomeroot installed on your N800
• If you don't know where they are to be found, start at http://www.gronmayer.com/it/
• Open an xterm window on your N800
• Enter 'sudo gainroot' (without the quotes) at the xterm command line prompt
• Enter 'ping xxx.yyy.zzz.www' (without the quotes and the xxx.yyy.zzz.www replaced with your desktop IP number, dots and all)

If it works, you'll see something like
Hit Ctrl in osso-xterm and then 'c' at the keyboard (ctrl-C, to abort the program).
If it doesn't work it'll either just hang there or tell you 'no route to host' or some such.

In the former case it should also work with hotsync, in the latter case your N800 and your desktop computer are not visible to each other through your network, or it's the incorrect IP address or something else.

When you're done in xterm, enter 'exit' twice (first to leave the root login, then to exit the xterm)

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Hotsync works for me, once I a) marked it as a Network connection, b) told my firewall to stop blocking the Hotsync Manager.

But I get an error message at the end, saying that the connection failed. I think it might have to do with the fact that you are supposed to specify how you are connecting via network, and Wireless isn't an option. USB and ultraviolence or whatever they are called waves are options. Whatever I pick seems to give an error message.

A program called Splashnews seems to work nicely; it does syncing without a real Hotsync, just going out and grabbing news stories from the net. This gives me my wish of having news automatically on my N800 even if I'm not in wireless range, BUT the stories have a line after a paragraph or so inviting you to click and Read More, but it doesn't seem to work. So you can get the top of the news, but for me I couldn't get complete news stories.

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Well I removed Norton Security from my computer and I get a successful HotSync message now. Unfortunately, my contacts and date book info are not showing up on the Nokia. Any suggestions?:confused:

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Basically it seems the PIM data doesn't transfer on HOTSYNCs. I exported all of my contacts and calendar data and imported them into Nokia ITT apps. Syncing them is problematic but I've learned to live without relying on syncing too too much, GPE-Calendar will sync with a Google calendar so the former has become my ITT appointment app and the latter my Palm Desktop calendar replacement.

I haven't dug deeply enough to resolve the contacts syncing.

HTH,
Frank

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Could we just add a couple of words to your first line there? :) That it doesn't work for you. The thing is that if you read through the threads in this forum I think you can see that several people have this sync thing working. I do. I understand that there is plenty of room for improvement with this GVM thing. I am starting to wonder what percentage of people it's syncing for. I imagine part of it's problem is that there are hardly any settings possible within the GVM, so if it doesn't work for you there isn't much chance to continue working with it. I'm not knowledgable about networks, but they appear to be one of those tech things that can be disabled by one of so many things. I suppose I was just lucky that my Nokia, my laptop and my router seem to get along so well. Maybe we can do a poll or start a thread on what kind of success people are having with syncing. That would be fine with me. I think the current appearance of the matter is that it is mostly a failure. Am I wrong?

Neil

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To Sungrove,

The weird thing is, I get a message saying the sync was successful., but the data's not there.

To FGol,

Could you describe exactly how you were able to export/import your records. When I tried, the tablet wouldn't recognize the file formats. (.aba, .dba)

Thanks.

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Ya, I can imagine that is pretty frustrating. If I were getting that message from it I think I would believe it and look more at software versions you are using. I say this because I wasn't getting any Datebk info to cross when I was using the Datebk tha comes with GVM. I had to go download Datebk5 . Once I did that it worked for me. Datebk5 is free for 45 days, so there isn't much risk in trying it to see if it works for you. In an earlier thread here I list all the software versions I have. I would lean more in this direction rather than thinking that it is not syncing. Also, have you checked the settings in Palm Desktop? Who knows, maybe it's disabled there. I doubt it, but worth looking.

Neil

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Neil,

I think the GVM is an interesting capability that in some ways eases migration. There were three or four applications I really needed the GVM for and mostly it is a struggle so I worked to figure out native replacements on the Nokia such as:
- iSilo: install HTML docs and read them in MocroB
- SplashID - Figured out how to import into PassWord Safe.
- HandBase ??? Still working on that
- Oxford Catholic Study Bible - I have the whole text in HTML and use MicroB. Can't search from top to bottom though so I still use GVM.
- Ambo - daily Mass readings. This actually syncs well in GVM so I use the GVM.
- PIM data? Well using the GVM for PIM stat is tough. Boot up takes time. Starting the GVM takes more time and the screen layout makes reading the screen a pain. That's a lot of overhead to quickly record an appointment or phone number. Better option for me was to struggle with not syncing all PIM data easily and use native applications like GPE. So when the GVM didn't sync my PIM data, I ignored it.

Maybe I need to get used to leaving the tablet on all day rather than turning it on/off all the time.

Hope this answers your question.

Is the GVM a failure? Probably not if it's only a stop gap!

Frank

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The aba, dba forms only work within the Palm Desktop. The contacts data can be exported to more useful forms like CSV or vCard. The trick is knowing whatever forms can be imported. For GPE suite I was able to use vCal for appointments and vcf for contacts. I forget if the PalmDesktop exports contacts in a friendly enough way but what I did was sync once to a different PIM program on my PC with "handheld overwrites desktop" set. You could sync to Outlook or if you have a Linux setup sync to JPilot or Evolution. The latter two can export to industry standard formats. Outlook can export to text but then you have to change everything to vCal or VCF form. PFE is a handy PC text editor to automate repetitive tasks.

Then I imported the data directly into GPE PIM suite. An other option is to set up a Google calendar, import the appointments, and sync them to GPE Calendar via Erminig.

Is it a pain in the neck? Yes....
Frank

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l have tried HotSync with OSX, but it isn't working. After reading the posts i think the problem has to do with the network option, but i can't find it. Any ideas?
Thanks.

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I also cannot hotsync - installed hotsync manager on laptop - see icon for it in tray - pinged laptop from N810 but when I hit start hotsync I get unknown host.

FYI this is over wifi and I tried hostname and ip

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I don't know what I am doing right, but the hotsync works for me. I set it all up with a clean instll of GVM and a new user name. I make sure that it is set up to "network" with the ip address and all that. I also make sure everything is running and that the hotsync is in the system tray,etc. Sometimes I have to restart the Palm desktop, and I get a "connection lost" error at the end of the hotsync, but calendar, memo and contacts get updated. This is version 4.1.4 of Palm Desktop running on Windows XP.

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Anybody know if hotsync works with Linux, specifically with J-Pilot?

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Well, its over a year later and I've installed the latest Garnet VM, but I still have the same problem: I get successful sync messages on my N800 and my laptop (running Vista), but no data shows up in my datebook or addressbook. Any ideas??:confused:

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Palm desktop hotsync or outlook hotsync? I got it hotsync 100% one way, or 50% twoway. Using outlook, check option desktop overwrite PDA, I get data imported to my tablet 100% of the time upon sync. One way, PC to tablet. So I do all my input on my pc and it kind of work. Twoway sync, check option desktop PDA sync file, something like that, keep doing it, eventually it will sync :( . Oh, you must have over 75 MB space on the intFlash to get hotsync transfer data. In other words if you are running memory tight, chances are you are NOT going to have data transferred. Or lower the storage heap size to 32Mb or 16 Mb...be careful, you may lose your data when playing wiht storage heap size. More info, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=23105, and a step by step for the 100% successful oneway sync :)


bun

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I am trying to HotSync to my Palm Desktop, in this case Access 6.2.2 using HotSync Mangager 7.0.2. What's frustrating is the messages (on both devices) saying the hotsync was successful, but no data appearing on the N800.