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Jerome 2007-11-17 13:47

Back to os2007.
 
I tried os2008 on my N800, and I will go back to 2007.

On the positive side, it is faster and videos play a lot better. Flash 9 works. The internet experience is better.

On the negative side:

-apparently Nokia has broken the libs again. Most 2007 or 2006 software won't install. I tracked that down to a conflict between hildon-libs0 and the new osso-af (I'll post a separate thread on that subject).

-I find the new interface both ugly and wastefull in screen space. Are Nokia's designer color blind or what? Can somebody please pack the old themes so that they can be installed on os2008?

-since the upgrade my router crashes regularly (I'll post another separate thread on that subject too).

IMHO, it is not ready for prime time. And I suppose that this is why the N810 (allegedly shipped to the distributors) is not on sale yet: Nokia is probably waiting for the applications catalogs to be updated with os2008 versions of Skype or Gizmo.

Opinions are not facts, your opinion may differ. But I go back to 2007 for the moment.

F1shb0ne 2007-11-17 14:05

Re: Back to os2007.
 
Sorry to hear about those troubles. I've had the same problems with libs. fortunately everything I need is installed properly. I wouldn't go back myself since my N800 is almost unusably slow otherwise - in my opinion of course.

BTW if throwing a flakey client at a router is enough to crash it, I'd be pretty disappointed with the router mfg and chase it up with them. However I understand the quickest resolution to *your* problems is a downgrade. : (

Jerome 2007-11-17 14:12

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I agree that the router should not crash, of course and I will see if the problem is known on the Apple forums. OTOH, the Nokia is a device which is likely to be used on various routers (not only at home), and if it crashes all series of them in Internet cafes and the like, Nokia has a problem on their hands.

jmancine 2007-11-17 16:06

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the n800 won't be causing mass blackouts in internet cafes. Have you tried a different router? My linksys, two motorolas, and an actiontec all work fine.

maxinflixion 2007-11-17 16:45

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I didn't have any issues w/ crashing routers when using os2008.

I did, however, just flash back to os2007 for the time being just because of app support.

It was a great preview or demo of what is to be expected in the very near future, but I can wait :)

jhoff80 2007-11-17 17:36

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I agree with max, it worked great for me, the speed was great, but for now I'm back on OS2007 because of apps.

adammelancon 2007-11-17 17:53

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I agree, the apps are important to me too.

What was the procedure you used to flash back to OS2007.
Did you just run the flash utility on windows and it put it back?

GeneralAntilles 2007-11-17 18:00

Re: Back to os2007.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adammelancon (Post 96358)
I agree, the apps are important to me too.

What was the procedure you used to flash back to OS2007.
Did you just run the flash utility on windows and it put it back?

Same as any other flash. ;)

Jerome 2007-11-17 18:10

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I don't run windows. I used the osx flasher. You'll find instructions here.

Jerome 2007-11-17 18:12

Re: Back to os2007.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmancine (Post 96316)
My linksys, two motorolas, and an actiontec all work fine.

Then it's probably the airport.

merovingian 2007-11-17 18:29

Re: Back to os2007.
 
Ok, i'm trying to go back to 2007 but no luck. I know you're supposed to hold down the home key while pressing the power button, and you're supposed to get the USB logo in the top right.
I've been trying this and my N800 just boots up normally. Any ideas?

jhoff80 2007-11-17 18:36

Re: Back to os2007.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by merovingian (Post 96378)
Ok, i'm trying to go back to 2007 but no luck. I know you're supposed to hold down the home key while pressing the power button, and you're supposed to get the USB logo in the top right.
I've been trying this and my N800 just boots up normally. Any ideas?

Is it plugged into the charger while you're doing this? I had the same issue until I unplugged the power.

merovingian 2007-11-17 18:38

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I tried it both ways, with charger plugged in and without, still no luck. Will keep on trying though.

maxinflixion 2007-11-17 18:39

Re: Back to os2007.
 
I merely loaded up the Flashing Utility in windows and held home while powering on.

Took a few minutes. Luckily I backed up before flashing to 2008, so I had a full system waiting for me.

merovingian 2007-11-17 18:45

Re: Back to os2007.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxinflixion (Post 96385)
I merely loaded up the Flashing Utility in windows and held home while powering on.

Took a few minutes. Luckily I backed up before flashing to 2008, so I had a full system waiting for me.

Whammo!! It finally took, loading 2007 as i type.
The 2008 preview was nice, but it broke a lot of things for me like bluetooh DUN via my Treo, webpages always crashing, and i mean always, NO skype, NO Navicore (till December), NO FM Radio and on and on.

iontruo2 2007-11-17 18:51

Re: Back to os2007.
 
How funny, I scratched a post I was going to make about the interface of OS2008 earlier.
I really like the OS2007 presentation. Crisp and clean is what came to mind.
Really at barely a year, whats up with the appearance rework? Looks like a step back to me. I also think the themes of OS2007 were not fully realized, should be still usable in the new OS2008. Take some notes from something like Zlauncher for the Palm OS. Lots of theme potential and lots of flexibility re: look and feel, still within a structure.

For a product that is specifically an 'internet tablet' I was very frustrated to find in OS2007, the complete 'blindness' and general incompatibility with N-Routers. In my case D-link's N-Router. Is that being fixed in OS2008?


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