Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I just ordered a N800 from Buy.com during their Thanksgiving promotion ($190 USD). I also ordered a iGo Stowaway keyboard from Amazon.com ($30 USD). I'm looking forward to reciving it; I've wanted one of these since the 770 was introduced.

Now I need to select some memory.

I've read the Patriot Class 6 16GB module works with the N800 but I think 8GB is probably enough for me. Any reason I should get 16GB rather than 8GB? Video storage, map caching, web caching?

Is Patriot memory a good choice? Does 16GB really work in the N800? Should I consider anything else?

Does 16GB draw more power and substantially drain the battery, or make the N800 slow?

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I would also like to know if the 16GB sdhc works good on the n800 since im planning on booting from the sd card :) so i install everything i want and have plenty of space + another slot :P

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I found the reference to it working here:

http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8...now-available/

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

And here:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...highlight=16GB

There's lots of hearsay.

Guess I'm wondering how well it works. Does it drain the battery? Or make the software slow?

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

Haven't heard anything about battery drain. As for speed, one of the first posts about the Patriot 16GB card was one where the poster wondered how come his N800 was so much faster now than it used to be.. apparantly accessing files on the card was much faster than with his previous low-capacity SD card. Hearsay? Yep. Scary hearsay? No.. ;)

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I'd be wary with 16GB cards yet, as even 8GB are somewhat experimental. The whole SDHC thing is extremely new, and still has to stabilize at every front - the only recently fixed SD corruption issues on the OS2007 were rare and mild considered to the issues with SDHC in XP and PC hardware...

Early adopters should consider themselves unpaid beta testers at their own risk - quite a few cards will be shortlived due to design or production defects, and even more will be killed by incompatible hard- and software. If you buy the very latest and most expensive card, you'd better have the time to haggle for a refund or repair, and have no data to lose.

Sevo

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

Well, the new 16GB cards are much cheaper (at least at Newegg) than the 1GB cards used to be just a few years back, not to mention when they were brand new. Unless I start hearing some horror stories real soon I'll go buying.

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N800 from Buy.com (ordered late Saturday afternoon) arrived today (Monday).


Patriot 8GB card arrives from NewEgg.com tomorrow ($54 including tax and shipping after PayPal sponsored 20% off sale).

I'll let you know how it works out with the 8GB card.

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I know a bit late but I haven't found too many people using 16 GB cards in their n800's so I thought I'd post.

I currently have not one but two 16 GB cards in my n800 and I've had no stability problems whatsoever. I'm running OS2008 Version 2.2007.50-2.

One card is a 16 GB SDHC Patriot card and the other is an Adata 16 GB SDHC card. DiskUsage says I have 16 GB on the Patriot card and 15.7 on the A-Data.

Grant

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

Only available 16GB card over here is a class 6 transcend one... very tempting to go with it, seeing noone have had any problems with 16GBs (though of other brands)

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I got the 8GB ($39.99 Transcend) and the 16GB ($70 ADATA) from newegg (Both class 6 SDHC cards), I got them earlier this week and have had no problems with either of the cards nor do they seem to drain my battery any more before. You dont get quite the full 16GB after the card has been formatted but it is great to have close to 24GB's of storage in my n800. I highly recommend buying as much storage as your device is capable of as its so cheap. To prolong my battery I also picked up a Tekkeon Tekcharge MP1550 which is an external battery which is compatible with the n800, should take my n800 from around 3 hours of media playback to 3-4 times that!

Get the $16GB, its worth it for the price!

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Good to hear that -- I just ordered 2 16GB A-Data SDHCs from newegg.com!

I'm hearing feedback that the 16GB A-Data gives 14.7GB, but still, that's 30.4GB, nothing to sneeze at!

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I got one of A-Data card, and I see 14.95GB which is right for 16GB card b/c 14.95 * 10^30 = 16,000,000,000 Bytes, and that is 16GB.

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I'm running 16 GB Patriot Class 6, and quite happy.

A couple points:
The difference of SDHC vs. SD is that SDHC uses different addressing. So an 8 GB SDHC vs. a 16 GB SDHC will cause no problems -- if it crashes on SDHC, it crashes on SDHC, not the capacity.

I don't know, not having done side-by-side comparison, but I know of no reason to suspect that a higher-capacity card would eat more battery, etc. How would it?

Reasons for 16 vs. 8: It's not that much more money, and saves having to move all your stuff to another card later when you fill it up. Especially with music or video, you can burn 8 GB pretty fast. (And map images, too, if you use maemo-mapper much.)

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Hey, anyone of you guy, the 8G or 16G owners, you boot from MMC or internal flash? If from MMC, how did you do it? I can only clone to 4G SDHC card, saw several posts that failed to clone to 8G SDHC cards. Thanks,


bun

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yes. I did it with my 8G SDHC.

I cloned the OS from the internal 2G SD (mmc2 for N800) to the external 8G (mmc1).

1. You go through the procedure of creating partitions.

http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowT..._your_MMC_card

I did:
sfdisk /dev/mmcblk1 -u M (( for the mmc1 in M bytes !!!)))
0, 6000,0C
6000,,
,,
.....
and

# mkdosfs /dev/mmcblk1p1
# shutdown -r now

# mke2fs /dev/mmcblk1p2
# shutdown -r now

(( note blk1 !!!!!)))

You should reserve more than 1.5G for the ext2 if you want to load KDE later on. I haven't!


2. Boot from internal flash (not mmc1 or mmc2!)

3. make sure mbcache.ko and ext2.o loaded if not then load them


"lsmod" for checking and
" insmode .../2.6.xx-ompa1.yyy"to load
for 2008OS xx is 21 yyy either mbcache,ko or ext2.o

4. back up the OS from mmc2 to mmc1 (as root you do)

umount /media/mmc2 (umount if not we can not mount /opt)
umount /opt
rm -rf /opt
mkdir /opt
mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /opt
mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc2 (re-mount so we can copy into it! )
cd /opt
/home/user/bin/tar -zcvf /media/mmc2/xyz .
umount /floppy
rm -rf /floppy
mkdir /floppy
mount /dev/mmcblk1p2 /floppy
cd /floppy
/home/user/bin/tar -zxvf /media/mmc2/xyz

Note:
1. umount, rm, mkdir : I want a fresh directory for mounting
2. /home/user/bin/tar is the tar-gnu not the one supplied by the OS. It came from step 7.1 http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=8631
3. you should have enough space on the DOS partition of the internal SD!
And there you have the same OS as in your internal (mmc2) SD!

Hope this help !!!

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

Thanks for the detail instructions. I may try it on a weekend. Why do you want to boot from ext SD rather than int SD? Any advantage?


bun

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

Actually the above procedure is used to clone the internal SD into the external one.

After it is done you can swap them ! But really why not to have an option of booting off from the external SD ?
I do
have that and I found out it is very easy to clone the external SD back to the internal without open the IT !!!

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I found that everytime I run sfdisk, after creating the FAT partition, it just mounts by itself and all the failure bunanson described come after. Keep going, and the cloning process just fails.

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

He reported getting it cloned and booted, http://internettablettalk.com/forums...525#post130525, thread #18. I think the kernel is the key, I will try tonight. Would you? I have ordered another 8G card, see whether the first one is defective, I doubted it. And if still does not work, I will also ghost my working 4G onto my 8G card, I need the space for nwiki, http://internettablettalk.com/forums...581#post130581, my next project.


bun

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

I had mine worked on the 8G (Transcend) card too, but it just stopped working in the sudden. The tablet kept recycling in the boot menu, and now I can't reclone with all the errors, failures you described. I now start suspecting the card, but not the kernel bc it failed while we copying files from flash to card. Let's know what you find. Thanks.

Re: Patriot Class 6 8GB or 16GB SD card?
 

a low level formatting maybe able to salvage your SD card back, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=10417&page=2.


bun