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elguera71 2007-11-26 10:03

Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
hi
id like to know which is the best software to use the n800 as a PIM?


thanks

peterjb31 2007-11-26 10:16

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Currently that is probably the GPE Pim suite though synchronisation is rather unreliable at present.

miind 2007-11-26 10:26

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
isnt it better to use sites like google calender and "remember the milk" direct instead of ending up in the syncronization swamp.

piku 2007-11-26 12:51

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miind (Post 100013)
isnt it better to use sites like google calender and "remember the milk" direct instead of ending up in the syncronization swamp.

Yeah, but what happens if you're somewhere without wifi? it's quite inconvenient waiting for your phone to connect, Google Calendar to squeeze down the GPRS link and then restart MicroB after it usually crashes.

It hardly satsifies the "Bob, what are you doing next tuesday morning?" type queries. The Palm was so good at this - one button press to see my calendar.

TA-t3 2007-11-26 14:23

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Well, Date Book, which is built-in in Garnet VM could do the trick, if it's Palm behaviour you want. The Calendar app in my Palm T3 is the main reason I'm still carrying it around. But I don't synch, I carry the T3 all the time so there wouldn't be any use.

eke60mirth 2007-11-29 03:30

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
GPE calendar and GPE todo did not meet my needs. So, after years of using a Palm, I'm trying to use an online calendar. Yahoo! Calendar works well. It loads quickly and entering events and tasks is quick and easy. Save the page (daily, weekly, event list, whatever) for offline viewing. I paid $20 to get rid of the ads.

megabyte405 2007-11-29 05:26

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
When was the last time you tried GPE calendar and todo? They've improved a lot recently - the 2.8 release was good, and the nightly builds since then are also very good. I've synced it with my desktop, with the instructions linked in my signature ( http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync...d_GPE_on_N800/ ). Works great for me, though of course YMMV.

emory 2007-11-29 10:49

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
the GPE ToDo program crashes in OS 2008 when you try to create categories.

megabyte405 2007-11-29 13:41

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
File a bug - that way it can get fixed.

dormant 2007-11-29 15:09

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
I use GPE calander to read my Google Calander using ICAL.

But I don't seem to be able to get GPE to upload to Google Calendar - is this possible?

nilchak 2007-11-29 15:22

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
While GPE Calendar and Todio and GPESummary also work on their own (with a few vrashed - as mentioned when creating categories in Todo), UI cant seem to be able to import the Calendar exports from my Zaurus, or either the contacts from my Zaurus addressbook. Both the imports fail.

Hence right now GPE Contacts is stiiing there blank since I dont want to enter all my contact details by hand again.

Note : on my Zaurus I was using KDE PIM - i.e. KaPi and KoPi

TA-t3 2007-11-29 16:14

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by megabyte405 (Post 101789)
When was the last time you tried GPE calendar and todo? They've improved a lot recently - the 2.8 release was good, and the nightly builds since then are also very good.

Ryan,
I would be grateful if you could quickly check if the new version can do bi-weekly events - the last time I checked it couldn't (and I de-installed it, or I would just upgrade. It had a name colllision with another app I used too so I'm hesitating a bit.)

For repeats, my Palm Calendar can do:
  • None
  • Daily until..
  • Every week
  • Every other week
  • Every month
  • Every year
  • Other
And under 'Other' I can set almost anything.. every 13th day with or without an end date, or every third week on Thursday, etc.

lbattraw 2007-11-29 16:31

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dormant (Post 101962)
I use GPE calander to read my Google Calander using ICAL.

But I don't seem to be able to get GPE to upload to Google Calendar - is this possible?

Absolutely. You need Erminig http://code.google.com/p/erminig/ It works very well although I have run into issues using it behind a corporate proxy; it will hang when starting because it tries to connect before you have a chance to enable the proxy setting. I've used it for a while and it's great, nothing else seems to work like it does. It is a python application so you will need the python2.5-runtime first.

Larry

timsamoff 2007-11-29 16:31

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dormant (Post 101962)
I use GPE calander to read my Google Calander using ICAL.

But I don't seem to be able to get GPE to upload to Google Calendar - is this possible?

Erminig syncs both ways with Google Calendar. But, it won't be ported to OS2008 until it is officially released (i.e., out of beta).

-T.

timsamoff 2007-11-29 16:33

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
lbattraw, we posted at the exact same moment. :p

dormant 2007-11-29 16:49

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Thanks guys, I wondered what erminig was for.

Installing it now.

XL1200c 2007-11-29 16:55

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
You could use Garnet VM and run the palm PIM software.

jurop88 2007-11-29 22:54

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Nobody tried programs from
http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/debs
?

They need python, no sync, everything simple but with a first class user experience, really great! After three days of usage my calendar and todo are full populated...

slim 2007-11-29 23:03

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jurop88 (Post 102220)
Nobody tried programs from
http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/debs
?

They need python, no sync, everything simple but with a first class user experience, really great! After three days of usage my calendar and todo are full populated...

How do they compare to GPE?

Karel Jansens 2007-11-29 23:03

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jurop88 (Post 102220)
Nobody tried programs from
http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/debs
?

They need python, no sync, everything simple but with a first class user experience, really great! After three days of usage my calendar and todo are full populated...

Check this

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=11270

thread. There are still bugs, notably in the Info On Tap package.

L0cutus 2007-11-30 08:41

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
all his apps continues to tell me "can't save data", any idea ?

z2n 2007-12-17 04:36

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 101970)
Note : on my Zaurus I was using KDE PIM - i.e. KaPi and KoPi

As a long-time Zaurus user, I find kdepimpi and
the password manager "zsafe" indespensible.

Do you have any experience with porting Zaurus apps to the Nokia...or know of anyone who's ported kapi/kopi?

I have already built Qt 4.3.3 within Scratchbox, and Qtopia is next. This process makes me very aware that I am not
a very good software developer...while I it is just possible that I will be able
to get kdepimpi to recompile on the Nokia, I strongly doubt that I'll ever get to truely
porting them to use the Hildon environment.


I'd be extremely grateful for any help or suggestions that you have.

jurop88 2007-12-17 09:02

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by L0cutus (Post 102450)
all his apps continues to tell me "can't save data", any idea ?

Go to Author`s web page @

http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/index.html

scroll down and find the 'patch-dirs' package.

Install it, it should work. Afterwards, you can also remove it.

L0cutus 2007-12-17 09:52

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jurop88 (Post 109569)
Go to Author`s web page @
http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/index.html
scroll down and find the 'patch-dirs' package.
Install it, it should work. Afterwards, you can also remove it.

Not applicable for now since i've upgraded to os2008 :(

PinCushionQueen 2007-12-17 16:01

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
FWIW, I tried to install the Gene Cash apps to OS2008 and they won't work. I even wrote off to the dev and asked for an update to OS2008... He replied that he didn't have plans of upgrading his N800 to the new OS yet. Maybe if more people requested the update?

Saturn 2007-12-18 00:42

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 109668)
FWIW, I tried to install the Gene Cash apps to OS2008 and they won't work. I even wrote off to the dev and asked for an update to OS2008... He replied that he didn't have plans of upgrading his N800 to the new OS yet. Maybe if more people requested the update?

A week ago, or so, I did ask him too.. If he replied to you 'not yet' I take it as a positive answer.

ArgentSilver 2007-12-18 01:27

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jurop88 (Post 109569)
Go to Author`s web page @

http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/index.html

scroll down and find the 'patch-dirs' package.

Install it, it should work. Afterwards, you can also remove it.

I tried this after some emails to Gene (patch-dirs) and it didn't work for me. I later got Calend to work OK after I re-flashed my n800; don't know why that made it work though. Even after the reflash, I couldn't get Info On Tap to work properly. It wouldn't save when creating a table (ever), so I wrote it off for now. I'm hoping maybe he'll fix it.

ArgentSilver 2007-12-18 01:37

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XL1200c (Post 102031)
You could use Garnet VM and run the palm PIM software.

This is a very good option. The PIM apps built into the Garnet VM work well, except for alarms, which in my experience are buggy. If you don't need calendar alarms, this is a good solution.

I tried GPE Calendar and found it to be too buggy for me.

megabyte405 2007-12-19 01:16

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
A KDE (QT) app can never be fully Hildon-ized, since Hildon is GTK+, unless the app is ported from QT to GTK. The best you can do with getting those apps on Maemo is a) just getting QT over, and putting up with them maybe looking/acting weird or b) ditching Maemo/hildon completely for a desktop KDE - I know there are folks who have done that.

aflegg 2007-12-20 13:51

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
There's certainly no technical reason that a QT app couldn't sit and interoperate relatively well in the Hildon Desktop, i.e. hidden, drop-down menus, proper theming etc.

It's just a question of whether it's worth it.

WilsonBradley 2009-02-08 07:32

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
What is the final opinion on a good PIM to use?

fragos 2009-02-09 06:13

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
In their current state GPE, erminig and Notecase do it for me. Google Calendar sync works well and I use the Nokia mail ap, modest, to access Gmail. As an Ubuntu user I've the additional advantage that GPE and Notecase run there as well with data base compatibility. There was some data entry to get started but now everthing works pretty smoothly for me. Hopefully one day there will be a package like Erminig that will sync Google Contacts with GPE.

happymonkey 2009-02-09 08:04

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
I use an almost completely CLI environment on my laptop, my "other computer". I use mutt for email, remind for my calendar application, abook for contacts etc.. I find that with a little bash, perl and what not GPE on n800 is simple enough to "sync" the info. I care about between my working environments. To each there own :D, that is my comment.

jgwong 2009-02-09 17:02

Re: Best software for using the n800 as a PIM?
 
@happymonkey: So, how do you sync? Can you elaborate more on that? I was about to use offlineimap (python) to sync my mail, but I discovered Claws Mail doesn't read maildirs.

I'd love to have mutt on the N810, found a .deb but doesn't work.


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