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Tony Thomas 2007-12-15 01:51

Everex Cloudbook
 
Looks like there is another Linux UMPC on the horizon to compete against the eeepc:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6962839488.html

barry99705 2007-12-15 08:07

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
I'm not so sure I could buy a Compaq.

dkwatts 2007-12-15 10:48

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
before next xmas, cloudbook will be at walmart for $249.98, imho.

fpp 2007-12-15 11:05

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Everex = Compaq ?

Drewvt 2007-12-15 13:28

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Even though it retains the design structure of a traditional laptop, it comes with a touchscreen and without a touchpad? What an odd approach.

Karel Jansens 2007-12-15 13:56

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewvt (Post 108972)
Even though it retains the design structure of a traditional laptop, it comes with a touchscreen and without a touchpad? What an odd approach.

For a small form factor clamshell, that might not be too stupid a design choice. I know it works well on my recently acquired Psion Netbook. Then again, Psion's EPOC UI has buttons that are very finger-friendly.

aflegg 2007-12-15 15:03

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The other advantage of that is that the keyboard can be bigger. As I noted in my Eee review, it suffers from much smaller keys than a netBook because loads of room is taken up with a trackpad - which are horrible at the best of times, IMHO.

Karel Jansens 2007-12-15 15:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aflegg (Post 108988)
The other advantage of that is that the keyboard can be bigger. As I noted in my Eee review, it suffers from much smaller keys than a netBook because loads of room is taken up with a trackpad - which are horrible at the best of times, IMHO.

I'm beginning to appreciate my decision on passing up on the Eee -- thanks to Frethop's Netbook!

As a writing machine, this turns out to be a great acquisition, best of 5mx and Eee, I'd say. Obviously, the Netbook is not fit to run any reasonably modern software (foregoing for the moment that I could install Linux on it), but the OS and UI are so perfectly taylored to the hardware it's really a joy to work on (note: not "with"; on the Netbook I tend to forget the machine is there).

Oh, how I wish Nokia had hired all the Psion/EPOC designers...

Drewvt 2007-12-15 21:07

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Clearly there are certain advantages to not having a trackpad, but if they're going for a clamshell that relies heavily on its touchscreen, it's weird that they didn't throw in a screen swivel (as the Fujitsu subnotebooks have) so that it can be more versatile than a regular clamshell.

LordFu 2007-12-15 21:57

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I think the EEE pc represents a missed opportunity. Once the novelty factor wears off, people will realize that they paid a premium price for, IMO, mediocre hardware and software. Some of their design decision boggle my mind.

I'll keep waiting for someone to get it right. This Everex design appears to be a step in the right direction, but I'll wait and see. I'll have to check out those devices you mentioned, Karl. I don't think I've ever heard of them. Thanks.

For me, the N800 is still the best design for my usage, but I'm sure the N810 is better for some. The N810 keeps most of what's right with the N800 design, but it makes a few mistakes that I consider critical.

Karel Jansens 2007-12-15 23:39

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordFu (Post 109101)
I'll keep waiting for someone to get it right. This Everex design appears to be a step in the right direction, but I'll wait and see. I'll have to check out those devices you mentioned, Karl. I don't think I've ever heard of them. Thanks.

Just google for "Psion" and "Netbook" (or "Series 7"). Adding "unbelievably obsolete hardware" and "manufacturer out of business" might also help. :rolleyes:

Oh, what the heck? It's here.

smog 2007-12-16 01:25

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
I was drooling for the Asus eee until I got the 150$ Nokia 770 (and NEC MobilePro 800c) with touchscreen. Not I wouldn't buy anything subnotebook that don't have a touchscreen.

also I wouldn't buy anything that can't run Linux. Sorry but no windows Mobile for me. (Linux make devices be timeless as even a win98 era laptop can run linux and make the then unsuported usb port usable.)

So yes the cloudbook is on my purchase list for next year.

About the Eee's Solid state hard drive : I can get a large compact flash card and adapter to replace any hard drive in ANY computer. The compact flash format is far from dead and it's still widely used as a hard drive in industrial applications.

so the Eee don't have any technological edge on any other computer; even it's small size and low price will be matched by the cloudbook.

barry99705 2007-12-16 01:33

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 108947)
Everex = Compaq ?

Whoops, my bad. I meant Packard Bell. :rolleyes:

http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/ne...p?storyid=1063

fpp 2007-12-16 11:06

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Ah, OK. Never used one, are they that bad ? :-)

barry99705 2007-12-16 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 109236)
Ah, OK. Never used one, are they that bad ? :-)

Their nickname used to be Packard Hell. It's a non-company in the US now.

Tony Thomas 2007-12-17 00:54

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
The Packard Bell name indeed has a bad reputation in the US but is still popular in Europe. It isn't the same company it used to be, however. NEC bought the brand in the mid 90s and Acer/Gateway acquired it earlier this year:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packard_Bell

Everex is actually owned and manufactured by FIC in Taiwan, a large manufacturer of motherboards. The Cloudbook is based on Via's Nanobook UMD reference design:

http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives...head/nanobook/

HAC 2007-12-17 03:27

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
One of my favorite device form-factors was the old Sharp Tri-pad..

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/do...117/sharp1.jpg

It was slick in its day, 9.4" screen, could fold to tablet format, full size keyboard, CF and PCMCIA slots.. Too bad it was slow and RAM cramped. I still have it, and it still works as well as it ever did. Made a good (if slow) ebook reader with uBook.

Cheers
Harold

barry99705 2007-12-17 06:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HAC (Post 109516)
One of my favorite device form-factors was the old Sharp Tri-pad..

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/pc/do...117/sharp1.jpg

It was slick in its day, 9.4" screen, could fold to tablet format, full size keyboard, CF and PCMCIA slots.. Too bad it was slow and RAM cramped. I still have it, and it still works as well as it ever did. Made a good (if slow) ebook reader with uBook.

Cheers
Harold

I forget the name of the company, but they made an updated version. Sold about as well as the tripad.... Sweet design though.

Benson 2007-12-17 16:46

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People have been saying this has no touchpad. It does have one. A little, thumb-sized one, up next to the hinge. Interesting and different layout. Of course, there's two versions, the regular (no touchscreen), and the developer's (with touchscreen), so maybe there is no touchpad on the developer's version.

I like the cloudbook better than the Eee. It's just a touch smaller (though I've heard that the keyboard is the exact same parts), and the high-capacity hard-drive and touchscreen make sense to me. For those who punt their laptops, maybe the HDD should be replaced with a SSD, but notebook drives are respectably rugged these days, so I think it'd be fine.
When I've got enough cash and time, I think I'm getting one.

mbrinkhues 2007-12-19 21:35

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Now this maybe another "special device" hand-build/programmed by enslaved virgins for my use only (Same as my WinXP and WiMo devices/software) but the PacBell I bought back in 2002 still works like a charm. It has been upgraded trice including a new graphics card instead of the build in and while not the most silent it's still one of my main boxes and reliabel.

Drewvt 2007-12-20 20:10

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What I find interesting is that Microsoft is not even trying to get Windows on the Cloudbook (or at least, there is no mention of Windows anywhere in connection with the Cloudbook) whereas, significantly, they made a last-ditch effort to get XP unto the Asus Eee.

The "cheap ultraportable" category is starting to slip through their fingers. Which is something Linux users can only applaud.

narbly 2007-12-22 02:29

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[QUOTE=Karel Jansens;109134]Just google for "Psion" and "Netbook" (or "Series 7"). Adding "unbelievably obsolete hardware" and "manufacturer out of business" might also help. :rolleyes:

"manufacturer out of business"? While Psion no longer has a consumer products division, it is still alive and well. We have used their data collection equipment in both our warehouses and retail locations for years and still continue to purchase new equipment from them.

http://www.psionteklogix.com/

barry99705 2007-12-22 03:41

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[QUOTE=narbly;113571]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 109134)
Just google for "Psion" and "Netbook" (or "Series 7"). Adding "unbelievably obsolete hardware" and "manufacturer out of business" might also help. :rolleyes:

"manufacturer out of business"? While Psion no longer has a consumer products division, it is still alive and well. We have used their data collection equipment in both our warehouses and retail locations for years and still continue to purchase new equipment from them.

http://www.psionteklogix.com/

I thought the netpad looked cool. Never found one to play with though.

rickh 2007-12-22 04:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewvt (Post 112286)
What I find interesting is that Microsoft is not even trying to get Windows on the Cloudbook (or at least, there is no mention of Windows anywhere in connection with the Cloudbook) whereas, significantly, they made a last-ditch effort to get XP unto the Asus Eee.

The "cheap ultraportable" category is starting to slip through their fingers. Which is something Linux users can only applaud.

I read somewhere today (could have been Engadget, but I'm not sure) that beginning in January, Best Buy will be selling the Eee. I'm pretty sure that's got Microsoft trying to come up with what to do as far as the Eee goes. Once the Eee hits mainstream, middle-America oriented stores, a LOT of people are going to see that there's an affordable option other than Windows (I'm not even going to mention any Macs - you can't find a $600, let alone a $400 portable Mac).

Couple that with a bunch of salesgeeks touting no viruses and I bet people will bite. Or at least take more than a glance at something non-MS.

R.
==

Karel Jansens 2007-12-22 12:52

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[quote=barry99705;113593]
Quote:

Originally Posted by narbly (Post 113571)

I thought the netpad looked cool. Never found one to play with though.

Send a PM to ITT user Frethop. Maybe he still has a few left.

He did advertize them in this forum, you know...

barry99705 2007-12-22 21:02

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[QUOTE=Karel Jansens;113737]
Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 113593)

Send a PM to ITT user Frethop. Maybe he still has a few left.

He did advertize them in this forum, you know...

Must have been before I started hanging here. Though for the most part, I skip over the for sale section. :D

Oh, those were netbooks, not netpads.

http://www.bioeddie.co.uk/models/NetPad.html

adsum ignotus 2008-02-07 00:47

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Ohhh man...This little devil might just force me to hang up my n800-shoes. There's only room for one gadget in my bag and the cloudbook offers the office software I need in a portable as a college student...ya, my poor n800 is wimpering as I type this. *There there little tablet, don't cry*

james.bottomtooth 2008-02-24 22:50

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
did anyone ever get their hands on Cloudbook? (seems like wally has them in stock already)
i wonder if that small touch pad is as bad as everyone claims.

also what kind of applications would you able to install?

i went ahead and ordered it. hoping for the best.
i don't plan to ditch my N800, although lately i have only used it for navigation or playing occasional game before i fall asleep.

dkwatts 2008-02-25 18:41

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 108943)
before next xmas, cloudbook will be at walmart for $249.98, imho.

Everex 7" CloudBook CE1200V Ultra-Portable Laptop w/ VIA C7-M Processor ULV

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=8245470

$399.00

james.bottomtooth 2008-07-03 20:08

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 108943)
before next xmas, cloudbook will be at walmart for $249.98, imho.

its $349.00 now... maybe well on the way.

original gPC they sold cleared out at $150

Drewvt 2008-07-11 11:26

Re: Everex Cloudbook
 
But is it worth it? Lots of reviews say it's painfully slow compared to its direct competitors. That Via processor just isn't cutting it.


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