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shacky4 2007-12-23 03:44

Applications That Ought To Exist
 
I don't have the expertise to write programs, but I love my n800 and often think that there ought to be a program that.......

1. The Clock- My idea would be a clock that is full screen and gives you the option to stay on bright, switch to dim and stay on dim (would be great bedside) or switch to dark screen. Also, an alarm feature that would use the MP3 or playlist of your choice as the alarm.

2. The Webcam- Simple really. Start the program and it will act as an internet webcam (using the built-in camera, of course.) It will display the ip address it is using and offer the option of password protected viewing.

Shoot, I know there was a third but at my advanced age of 46 I often forget things. It'll come to me.

Feel free to add your wish list for programs or suggestions to the ones I mentioned.

And, if you are about to post that this has already been posted somewhere else at some point in time....go have a Christmas cookie.

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-23 03:52

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We already have a thread for application requests. It's over here. :)

shacky4 2007-12-23 04:38

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Your Christmas cookie is calling from the kitchen.

Anyway, I thought of my other app.

Recordit. Basically, would record whatever is playing on your tablet. ie, if you are streaming music, you could capture it sort of like Replay Music.

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-23 04:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shacky4 (Post 114209)
Your Christmas cookie is calling from the kitchen.

Seriously, nobody appreciates the thread spam and it's driving the signal to noise ratio of this forum through the roof. Try not to be a jerk and contribute to it any further. :)

shacky4 2007-12-23 04:51

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Thanks, you certainly have a way to make folks feel welcome.

Merry Christmas!

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-23 05:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shacky4 (Post 114213)
Thanks, you certainly have a way to make folks feel welcome.

It's really very simple. When you do rude things, expect rude responses.

Somehow, you figured that cluttering up the forum with more of the same when there's already a very healthy topic on exactly the subject you've brought up here was a good idea. Why do you feel the need to fragment the discussion into two separate, yet identical threads? Do you feel that your particular contributions are somehow much more important than everybody else's?

If you had done the right thing in the first place and posted in the first thread or, assuming ignorance, moved your discussion there after its pressence was indicated to you then there wouldn't be a problem. But you act like you're in the right here, but you're not.

Look, I don't like being unpleasant to people, but I'm tired of watching the slow descent here as people just go and do whatever the hell they want, regardless of the basic ettiquet of the community. Perhaps you've just been caught in a bit of the crossfire, you don't have bad ideas here, but it's really not necessary to start a new thread when there's already a healthy, active, useful one around.

geneven 2007-12-23 05:17

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Seriously, what we need are cops in every thread, to watch every sentence!! Where did the Internet go after all these years without cops everywhere!!

pipeline 2007-12-23 05:25

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As you will no doubt be aware, the plans for development of the outlying regions of the Galaxy require the building of a hyperspatial express route through your star system, and regrettably your planet is one of those scheduled for demolition. The process will take slightly less than two of your Earth minutes.

There’s no point acting all surprised about it. All the planning charts and demolition orders have been on display in your local planning department in Alpha Centauri for fifty of your Earth years, so you’ve had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it’s far too late to start making a fuss about it now.

technut 2007-12-23 05:29

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geneven, I don't know about you but I have an interest in about 80-90% of the topics I see on this forum so I read nearly every post. And I'm getting pretty tired of reading the same thing over and over because people didn't look for an answer or look for an existing thread before they post.

So if this continues, somebody is going to get fed up and leave. It will be either the people that don't have the courtesy to read before they post, or the people who DO read before they post and who are tired of the duplication. And let me remind you that people who don't read are seldom able to help others. So which way do you want it?

adammelancon 2007-12-23 05:31

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I see the "General" is at it again.

geneven 2007-12-23 05:34

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Technut, I don't know about you, but there is only one thing that I am more tired of than the duplication, and that is the constant mantra of complaints. I don't see why you find it so interesting to make the same complaints over and over again.

geneven 2007-12-23 05:37

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And by the way, you mention that someone might get fed up and leave. You are so right!! I have considered it many, many times, because of the thread cops, not because of anyone else.

adammelancon 2007-12-23 05:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 114229)
Technut, I don't know about you, but there is only one thing that I am more tired of than the duplication, and that is the constant mantra of complaints. I don't see why you find it so interesting to make the same complaints over and over again.

Ditto!

I'll take enthusiastic newcomers over the "posting police" any day.

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-23 05:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 114232)
And by the way, you mention that someone might get fed up and leave. You are so right!! I have considered it many, many times, because of the thread cops, not because of anyone else.

. . . and I'm about ready to leave because of the ever degrading signal to noise ratio and generally poor responses to attempts to help. :)

technut 2007-12-23 05:56

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And who is going to actually *help* these enthusiastic newcomers? We've all been here since the beginning of this new "Thanks!" system.

geneven+adammelancon+shacky4 = 15
GeneralAntilles+technut = 147

You're all for mayhem in the threads, but is that really helpful in the long run? When those of us who want some semblance of sense in the threads get tired of the mayhem, are you going to step up and be more helpful?

adammelancon 2007-12-23 06:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by technut (Post 114244)
When those of us who want some semblance of sense in the threads get tired of the mayhem, are you going to step up and be more helpful?

Sure, why not, I'm a linux sysadmin by day.
I'm a member of other forums where I have almost 2000 posts. I've only had my tablet since June and I help when and where I can.

technut 2007-12-23 06:11

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And I'm not a Linux sysadmin... in fact I know very little about Linux. And yet somehow I've managed to be reasonably helpful. What's holding *you* back?

Look, it takes all types to make up a forum, but it seems unwise to shoot those who make the effort to be helpful here.

technut 2007-12-23 06:16

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I'm dropping out of this, because the topic is being discussed by reasonable people elsewhere on this forum. My apologies for getting carried away here.

adammelancon 2007-12-23 06:19

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So you know little about linux... which just proves that some of these newcomers will learn as much as you have and will want to help others as well.
No one person or small clique is the end all be all of forum knowledge.
Last time I checked I was registered at Maemo garage and have filled out bug reports, as well as helped out others on this forum.
I thought this was a community, not a competition.

geneven 2007-12-23 06:54

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Maybe I'm imagining things, but I don't remember this mantra back in January when I bought my N800 and joined the forum. There were some memorable flame wars, but not this constant every-thread thing. So if some people dropped out, I imagine that the rest of us would survive.

shacky4 2007-12-23 21:59

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Since my post sort of started this let me add my two cents.

First of all, I am not going to get dragged into a personal exchange and name calling, but would like to make an observation regarding this and other forums.

I participate in several forums and there is usually a certain atmosphere. One where people are friendly, participate a lot, and supportive. And, the other where you are almost afraid to start a thread because some self appointed forum nazis are checking every post and jumping on the opportunity to claim "REPOST!"

A forum should be a fun, informal place where people feel free to post, comment and exchange ideas and experiences. Does a forum need to be as organized as your date book? I think not. A forum is by definition a community and if there are questions or comments posted more than once or in more than one thread, then what real harm does it do?

I enjoy my n800 and value the information that I have gleamed from this forum. My hope is that this forum will be the type of place where users, new and experienced, can participate and further their enthusiasm for the IT. If not, then I, and many others, will just lurk for info when we need it and never participate in the discussion, perhaps some would like that.

To the General, and everyone else whose eyes my fall on these words, I truly wish you a Merry Christmas.

And now, I think I will go have a Christmas cookie.

geneven 2007-12-23 22:25

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Actually, you didn't start this. Ever hear the Nietzsche term, "eternal recurrence"?

gemniii42 2007-12-23 22:31

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Perhaps we need a subforum
for
All Special Support, Help Out Losers Here
subtitled:
"I'm posting here because I'm to dumb/lazy to search and add to threads that already exist"

pipeline 2007-12-23 23:40

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I have an alternate suggestion, carefully craft your suggestions for searching and posting, expressed in a manner devoid of malice, and have reggie sticky it. That is something you may have the power to do... a change to effect through productive channels.

Yet it seems the self appointed itt hall monitors have chosen their path of peppering their suggestions (which is what they really are) shotgun style across every thread that violates their secret laws.

So there you have a 'best practice' of expressing what the 'best practice' of posting... i have a feeling such a rational solution would not bode well for the burgeoning hall monitors guild charter.

YoDude 2007-12-24 00:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shacky4 (Post 114579)
Since my post sort of started this let me add my two cents.

First of all, I am not going to get dragged into a personal exchange and name calling, but would like to make an observation regarding this and other forums.

I participate in several forums and there is usually a certain atmosphere. One where people are friendly, participate a lot, and supportive. And, the other where you are almost afraid to start a thread because some self appointed forum nazis are checking every post and jumping on the opportunity to claim "REPOST!"

A forum should be a fun, informal place where people feel free to post, comment and exchange ideas and experiences. Does a forum need to be as organized as your date book? I think not. A forum is by definition a community and if there are questions or comments posted more than once or in more than one thread, then what real harm does it do?

I enjoy my n800 and value the information that I have gleamed from this forum. My hope is that this forum will be the type of place where users, new and experienced, can participate and further their enthusiasm for the IT. If not, then I, and many others, will just lurk for info when we need it and never participate in the discussion, perhaps some would like that.

To the General, and everyone else whose eyes my fall on these words, I truly wish you a Merry Christmas.

And now, I think I will go have a Christmas cookie.

Yeah, Merry Christmas... The cookies at my place are pretty good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by You
A forum should be a fun, informal place where people feel free to post, comment and exchange ideas and experiences.

Speaking from experience. There has to be some semblance of order... This ain't a forum where we recount our experiences having breakfast at Disney World with Micky and his friends. It is a place that can/should be used as a resource for the topic at hand. In this case the Internet Tablets.

BTW, what was the topic of your thread? Could you have typed it in the search tool first? If you type it in the search tool now; how much useful information would you receive?

You may be having fun but what about the next guy? The one who uses search before starting a new thread. He/she is going to see from all the garbage that is returned on that first or second page that his/her topic hasn't really been addressed. He or she will be inclined to start a new thread...

Then it's Deja Vu all over again... Nietzsche's "eternal recurrence".

The best way to stop this crap is for the regulars to ignore the redundant posts of those to inconsiderate to search... The threads will die and slither off the main page.

The forum police (and I have been called that too at times) should simply use the report post triangle found in the upper right hand corner and not add to the garbage that ends up in search results. That way maybe the moderator can close or delete the thread and/or keep it out of search results altogether.

Then maybe we could end up having a useful resource available to all. :)

salomc 2007-12-24 02:22

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I think both sides have good reasons, and are quite right about their arguments. But, in my modest opinion, the iT community loses much more with these harsh replies, which just drives away new members, and possible Nxxx buyers. Not to mention that these could be the future iT supporters...

The iT community needs much more to grow than to get more and more organized, in my opinion. To whom disagrees about this, just look around and count how many forums exist about the called "iT competitors".

In the begginin of this post, i had been very interested in the topic. For me, sad that it was stopped just before anyone could post something interesting. I really appreciate sugestions for new apps, in old or new threads. And it doesn't help harsh replies.

By the way, I think 2 urgently needed software are a word processor (Abiword coming) and a good PIM, with Windows, Linux and Mac support.

Happy Christmas!


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