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Fadsjeik 2007-12-26 14:40

fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
I'm a big fan of fbreader, but on OS2008 the scrolling by pressing the screen does not work anymore. I'm running version 0.8.8d-1 of fbreader. I looked at the settings, but I didn't disable the finger tap scrolling.

I'm guessing it has to do with the bug about the finger board. In some other threads people discussed not being able to acces the large finger board, but only when double tapping. I tried double tapping, and tada, it is scrolling. However this is very very annoying.

Can other people confirm this behaviour? Is OS2008 just not able to see the difference between a stylus and a finger tap?

Thank is advance.

Karel Jansens 2007-12-26 15:08

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by Fadsjeik (Post 115577)
I'm a big fan of fbreader, but on OS2008 the scrolling by pressing the screen does not work anymore. I'm running version 0.8.8d-1 of fbreader. I looked at the settings, but I didn't disable the finger tap scrolling.

I'm guessing it has to do with the bug about the finger board. In some other threads people discussed not being able to acces the large finger board, but only when double tapping. I tried double tapping, and tada, it is scrolling. However this is very very annoying.

Can other people confirm this behaviour? Is OS2008 just not able to see the difference between a stylus and a finger tap?

Thank is advance.

I remember having the same "issue" when upgrading from the 2005 to the 2006 version on the 770. A new version should likely solve this, provided you let the author know about the bug.

Fadsjeik 2007-12-27 16:09

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
Thanks for your reply. I assume you mean the author of fbreader, right? Also can you confirm that the finger tap scrolling doesn't work as well as before? Or don't you have any issues? What methods do other people use for scrolling?

Karel Jansens 2007-12-27 16:22

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by Fadsjeik (Post 116115)
Thanks for your reply. I assume you mean the author of fbreader, right? Also can you confirm that the finger tap scrolling doesn't work as well as before? Or don't you have any issues? What methods do other people use for scrolling?

I never found the finger scrolling very reliable. I have remapped the center button of the D-pad to pageturn; this works nicely for me.

Fadsjeik 2007-12-27 16:40

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 116121)
I never found the finger scrolling very reliable. I have remapped the center button of the D-pad to pageturn; this works nicely for me.

Interesting, I gave that a try myself as well, I never found the finger scrolling reliable either, but right now it is just plain horrible. The center button solution works great (too bad for N810 users though). I'll file a request over at the fbreader site for improved finger tap registration.

One other question (since you're an fbreader pro). In some other thread you made a comment on the bitstream font you used. Where did you get this font and how did you install it? Thank!

Karel Jansens 2007-12-27 17:37

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by Fadsjeik (Post 116129)
Interesting, I gave that a try myself as well, I never found the finger scrolling reliable either, but right now it is just plain horrible. The center button solution works great (too bad for N810 users though). I'll file a request over at the fbreader site for improved finger tap registration.

One other question (since you're an fbreader pro). In some other thread you made a comment on the bitstream font you used. Where did you get this font and how did you install it? Thank!

They reside in many repositories. If you go here and do a search on "bitstream", quite a few places should show up. IIRC, they are also automatically installed with the osso-xterm package, although ITOS2008 will probably have frakked that up as well. Personally I find Bitstream Vera Serif very pleasing to the eye, more than compensating for the fact that you get a little less text on the page than with the default Nokia serif font.

Oh, and I'm not a pro. I just read a lot.

Fadsjeik 2007-12-27 19:30

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
Thanks. Had the repositories up already, but had to enter red pill mode. The Bitstream vera serif indeed looks very nice!

bow 2007-12-27 19:32

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
After I upgradet to OS2008, and reinstalled fbreader, I had to go into the preferences and adjust the pressure of the stylus on the "tap"-tab. I jacked the minimal setting up from 0 to 50, and the maximum from 50 to 90. Now finger-flipping pages works great again.

Fadsjeik 2007-12-27 19:41

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
Ah, thanks. I feel so stupid now, but changing the settings works great. I changed them a bit to test, but that didn't help. The words minimal and maximal make things a bit counterintuitive to me.

JeffElkins 2007-12-27 22:29

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 116121)
I never found the finger scrolling very reliable. I have remapped the center button of the D-pad to pageturn; this works nicely for me.

Specifically, how do you do this?

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-27 22:35

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
There's a boatload of keybindings in prefs.

Personally, I just use it in portrait mode and scroll with the +/- buttons.

Karel Jansens 2007-12-27 22:35

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by JeffElkins (Post 116327)
Specifically, how do you do this?

Uh -- from the "Preferences" section in the menu?

Karel Jansens 2007-12-27 22:49

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 116330)
There's a boatload of keybindings in prefs.

Personally, I just use it in portrait mode and scroll with the +/- buttons.

Those are the default keybindings. I do switch hands a lot, though, so you see why I had to change it.

Also, I have the annoying habit of reading while I eat (or is that the other way around?), so I tend to switch from portrait to landscape a lot, which is why the center button for page turning is less confusing. Finally, for eater-readers, the N800's stand is a gods' gift.

My main keybindings are, in portrait view:
- Dpad left: page back
- Dpad center: page forward
- Dpad right: alternate portrait/landscape
- Dpad up: scroll back one line
- Dpad down: scroll down one line

That's just about everything I need...

JeffElkins 2007-12-27 23:54

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 116331)
Uh -- from the "Preferences" section in the menu?

Sorry to seem thick, but I don't see an area to change the key bindings. I see: General/Language/Scrolling/Margins/Format/Styles/Indicator
Colors/Keys/Config/Tap/ - For default, the center key on the dpad cycles between landscape and portrait.

GeneralAntilles 2007-12-28 00:00

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by JeffElkins (Post 116377)
General/Language/Scrolling/Margins/Format/Styles/Indicator
Colors/Keys/Config/Tap/.

Seriously, Jeff. . . . :p

JeffElkins 2007-12-28 00:11

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 116384)
Seriously, Jeff. . . . :p

Ha Ha General. I did look at the key tab. There:

I see a checkbox for keybindings depend on orientation. Then I see a dropbox for orientation (0,90,180,90) - then an editbox labeled 'action for key.' Maybe its just been a long day for me, but I don't see what's so hilarious.

Edit: OK, press the key to select an action. Anyway, ha ha.

Karel Jansens 2007-12-28 00:59

Re: fbreader thumb scrolling not working (OS2008 finger tap registration bugged?)
 
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Originally Posted by JeffElkins (Post 116394)
Ha Ha General. I did look at the key tab. There:

I see a checkbox for keybindings depend on orientation. Then I see a dropbox for orientation (0,90,180,90) - then an editbox labeled 'action for key.' Maybe its just been a long day for me, but I don't see what's so hilarious.

Edit: OK, press the key to select an action. Anyway, ha ha.

It's the things you find out by yourself that stick. ;)


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