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Benz145 2008-01-02 01:49

N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Most of these are probably already known by the pro users out there, but some of us always have more to learn! Post your N810 tips and tricks here and I'll keep the first post updated with them. I'll start -

N810 Tips and Tricks
(updated 1/9/08)


General Tricks -
  • Holding down the App switcher button will return you to the home screen
  • Holding down the back button will close the current application (or window)
  • Removing the battery from the unit for 10+ seconds will perform a hard reset
  • The N810's stand has three positions, not including the closed position
  • The default lock code for the N810 is 12345
  • Pressing Fn or Shift twice before entering another key will lock Fn or Shift on until you press them again
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Default bluetooth keyboard shortcuts -
  • Minimize - <ctrl><alt>m
  • Task launcher - <alt><shift>Tab
  • Task switcher - <alt>Tab
  • Full screen key - <alt>Return
  • Menu key - <ctrl><shift>M
  • Home view - <ctrl><shift>H
  • Power menu - <ctrl><shift>P
All of these can be customized in the Control Panel menu under "Bluetooth keyboard"

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Screen protector over camera - (thanks realcomix)

If you have a screen protector, cut a small piece to cover the N810's camera lens and protect it from scratches especially when it is going in/out of the car mount.

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N810 manuals in several different languages - (thanks jaimealves)
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Page Up/Down (thanks Egres) -
Space and <shift>space work for Page Up and Page down in the web browser.

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PinCushionQueen 2008-01-02 02:46

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
What exactly do you mean by 'hard reset'? Will removing the battery for >10 secs wipe it back to factory state? I thought you had to flash the device for that. I was planning on picking up a spare battery but hate to be on a short time limit if I'm switching it out for a fresh one.

Benz145 2008-01-02 03:20

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 119095)
What exactly do you mean by 'hard reset'? Will removing the battery for >10 secs wipe it back to factory state? I thought you had to flash the device for that. I was planning on picking up a spare battery but hate to be on a short time limit if I'm switching it out for a fresh one.

Well in my experience, a hard reset is the powering down of the device by removing its power, as opposed to a soft reset usually triggered by pressing the reset button within the devices software. A hard reset doesn't give the device time to do some of the things it would normally do during a soft reset, which isn't always a good thing, but can sometimes fix certain issues.

To better answer the question, no I don't believe that it will reset to factory if you remove it from power for that long. The type of storage it uses should be non-volatile which means it can retain data without being powered (similar to a memory stick, and the opposite of RAM).

tz1 2008-01-02 16:55

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
A fix for the newer, smaller, but nearly unobtainable connectors used on the n810

MicroB to MiniB connector - for much less than Nokia charges (also allows host mode mod http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=14092
)

They also have a power adapter (the ultra-tiny to the old Nokia power connector which is much more common):

(I updated the links - these work for me)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...T21EQ&v=glance
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...T21EQ&v=glance

In case these break again,

The Amazon ASINs (do search in cell phones) are:
B000Y032X8
B000F0PHV2

(Note handling is charged once, so it is cheaper to get multiples to save on shipping).

munky261 2008-01-02 17:07

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
i still dont understand the switch to micro usb , if you look at the ends there isnt a whole hell of a lot of size diference , and if the were concerned about internal space , how about knockinf off the dedicated power plug and charge via USB like should have been done since the 770

PinCushionQueen 2008-01-02 17:08

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benz145 (Post 119102)
Well in my experience, a hard reset is the powering down of the device by removing its power, as opposed to a soft reset usually triggered by pressing the reset button within the devices software. A hard reset doesn't give the device time to do some of the things it would normally do during a soft reset, which isn't always a good thing, but can sometimes fix certain issues.

To better answer the question, no I don't believe that it will reset to factory if you remove it from power for that long. The type of storage it uses should be non-volatile which means it can retain data without being powered (similar to a memory stick, and the opposite of RAM).

Ahhhh.... Thanks for the clarification :) I've been using Palm OS for the past 5yrs and in the Palm world a 'hard reset' means wiping all apps and personal info from the device and restoring it to factory state. Newer Palms use NVFS too so that all data insn't lost if the battery dies.

tz1 2008-01-02 17:17

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
If you slide the display up, the micro-B takes about 40% of the available thickness, 60% for the slot. A mini-B wouldn't fit. Same with the power connector. It also has to mount to the circuit board and be bonded strong enough to not break off if someone tries to push the cable in upside down.

The n810 is THIN. Perhaps too thin, but they still have the n800.

munky261 2008-01-02 17:25

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
i never said it had to be mini , but just pointing out the piss poor thought behind the design in general , why have two separate plugs , when one can accomplish both uses... sorta like a guy havin two johnsons , one for urination and one for procreation.... just doesnt make sense

Texrat 2008-01-02 17:40

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
The switch from mini to micro makes perfect sense. The overall physical envelope IS a little smaller, plus this change represents a consolidation of connector formats in the industry. Several companies that had previously relied on proprietary connectors and/or a mix of types are now reducing that nightmare down to micro usb for the most part.

As for having both micro usb and a separate power plug, I can't speculate much on the benefit of any information, but given that it should be cheaper for a company in the long run to consolidate those as well, I'm guessing there was some sense to the decision to keep both.

And :D at your analogy.

e-motion 2008-01-02 17:58

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Could you add to the tips how to access the memory card of the n810 from a Windows PC via Wi-Fi ? Still haven't figured this one out.

tchariya 2008-01-02 21:17

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tz1 (Post 119359)
A fix for the newer, smaller, but nearly unobtainable connectors used on the n810:

MicroB to MiniB connector - for much less than Nokia charges (also allows host mode mod http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=14092
)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...T21EQ&v=glance

They also have a power adapter (the ultra-tiny to the old Nokia power connector which is much more common):

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...T21EQ&v=glance

(Note handling is charged once, so it is cheaper to get multiples to save on shipping).


I went to BestBuy and bought the Nokia cellular phone charger (it came with two adapters, I used the tiniest adapter). It cost $10 + tax.

You do have to screw the adapter cable all the way down the threads to make perfect contact.

iGo has them too, but the iGo is modular and is not very sensible to buy for just one device.

Benz145 2008-01-03 03:16

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Hey tz1, none of those amazon, or the itT links worked for me in your thread. Can you double check them? The amazon ones might have an issue if you are linking while you are logged into your amazon account, not sure though.

TA-t3 2008-01-03 10:55

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Yeah, terminology.. a 'hard reset' in the mobile world usually means 'back to factory setting, delete anything installed by user'. Anyway, removing the battery while the device is up and running is _not_ a good idea, unless you're forced to do so e.g. because the device is unresponsive to buttons. It's like pulling the power chord on a desktop PC - you may end up with corrupted flash and memory card. Better shut down the operating system first.

Zuber 2008-01-03 11:23

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
I quite like the "Standard" Nokia charger. It lets you use the same charger wherever you are for both the Nokia Phone and the N810. Very conveniant.

I guess they could have included an option to charge through either port. Have seen this on other devices, where the USB lets you charge as well as the main adaptor, though more slowly.

Zuber

munky261 2008-01-04 00:04

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
i just dont like the little pin connector for the power , it wiggles around and seems very fragile , seems like ill damage it when using the device when plugged in

realcomix 2008-01-04 00:47

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
A tip;
if you got those cut to fit screen protectors put one over the camera lens so it doesnt get scratched when you put yo n810 in the car mount .....

Benz145 2008-01-04 12:49

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Still updating, lets here some more tips.

morrison 2008-01-05 05:28

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Anyone got any tips on a good case? What do you think about this one.

ackbar 2008-01-05 16:37

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
it is nice if you plan on putting it a jacket pocket. I have ordered a belt clip case made from the same manufacture.

statwrangler 2008-01-05 18:27

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
1) I found it handy to make an html file with the 20 links I use most frequently. These are arranged (short names, important at the left) for fastest access using the D-pad. This page is the home page for the browser.
2) I fire up the browser, email (currently claws), and terminal, AND leave them running. This way I can do 99% of my activity using the swap/esc button without touching the screen (or the "pen").
3) I wish I knew how to activate the application menu using the keyboard (alt-shift-tab under bluetooth). Then I would never have to worry about beach sand under the "pen" scratching the screen. (Wifi at the beach here.)

bgilly 2008-01-06 02:56

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Hello all! I am a tablet newbie and this is my very first post here.
I have had my tablet for a few days now and already flashed my tablet to the newest version (with my tablet being shipped with the 42-19 version). I learned a couple things in doing this and thought to share them with you.

The first is common sense but use the backup/restore utility to backup your existing version. I failed to do this and the first day I got my N810 I loaded it with my contacts and when I upgraded to the 50-2 version I lost all those settings as well as the user settings (language, country, Wifi connection settings).
I have a Kingston Mini SD 2 gig card and I have it installed in the tablet. It works fine in my testing and now I perform my backup to to that drive. When you restore you can select or deselect the items you want to restore such as contacts, emails without restoring the software version.
When I backup to the external memory I can move my backup to my desktop for safe keeping I also perform a new backup with the new version. The N810 utility allows you to have multiple backups just remember to name them accordingly.
I can also vouch that removal of the battery from the N810 for extended times does not cause lost data or lost settings.

When running Vista on my desktop and connected to the N810, the two memory drives show up on my desktop. I can move data between the desktop and the N810 as well as between the internal and external memory. While connected via USB you can not access the files on either internal or external from the N810. Even file manager will not show the files. It took me a while to find where my files went to using the N810. Once the USB was disconnected lo and behold the darn files show up.

I have had numerous problems with the email client. I can setup accounts just fine but connection is very slow and when I close the email window it won't open again without powering down the N810. It is kinda frustrating and I don't know what the cause is but accessing email from the Contacts or Communication tabs.

I got pretty frustrated with the email part that I installed Modest (in Beta) and it works perfectly now I wish I could learn if it possible to change or remove the list in Contacts. Under that tab it has email but it opens the N810 default program, I have to go under My Selection/Communication and there it has two emails, the second one is Modest. I select it and Modest starts up.

I wish to also clean-up or remove other tabs that I don't use such as Skype, Rhapsody (even though I didn't install them these are just the program tabs). I've tried researching Maemo for how to on menu or tab customizing but I haven't had any luck. Searching brought me here to this site.

Sorry this is so long but I thought if someone had a trick to doing this this is where it would be found and it gave me the opportunity to share my tips.

Thanks in advance for any help.

james415 2008-01-06 03:32

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
1. The final version of Modest is supposed to replace the built in email client completely. This should solve your troubles. For now I think you just have to hang in there.

2. Changing the menu is easy. In the control panel there is an option at the bottom called "panels" . Open it and select the Open it and click the "organize" button next to the Applications icon. Change and rearrange to your hearts content.

Cheers,
James

bgilly 2008-01-06 03:55

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james415 (Post 121701)
1. The final version of Modest is supposed to replace the built in email client completely. This should solve your troubles. For now I think you just have to hang in there.

2. Changing the menu is easy. In the control panel there is an option at the bottom called "panels" . Open it and select the Open it and click the "organize" button next to the Applications icon. Change and rearrange to your hearts content.

Cheers,
James

Thanks for the info. James. That is good news for the email, hopefully OS2008 can be updated to write this in rather than the supplied client version. In other words I would like to go to Modest straight from the Contacts tab in the Task Navigator.

The changing of the menu part I had down it was the deletion that I wanted. Delete is the shaded out option when in panel organize. I heck I could create a new category but you can't delete a category as long as there is content in it and you can't delete the content i.e. Skype. Lets just say you want to remove Skype from any list (program or application). Even though it is not "installed" how can you make it dissappear alltogether?

tz1 2008-01-06 15:46

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
This is probably in the manual somewhere, but...

The keyboard has shift and control keys and they do what you would expect with selections. Control-tap adds, Shift-tap selects a range.

Also Control-C/X/V will do copy/cut/paste.

And there are shortcuts like control-q for close which appear in the menus.

If you have an external (e.g. bluetooth) keyboard Alt-Tab brings up the app switch, and there are many other shortcuts or things that work just like a typicall Linux (or mac/win) install.

james415 2008-01-07 01:17

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bgilly (Post 121719)
Thanks for the info. James. That is good news for the email, hopefully OS2008 can be updated to write this in rather than the supplied client version. In other words I would like to go to Modest straight from the Contacts tab in the Task Navigator.

The changing of the menu part I had down it was the deletion that I wanted. Delete is the shaded out option when in panel organize. I heck I could create a new category but you can't delete a category as long as there is content in it and you can't delete the content i.e. Skype. Lets just say you want to remove Skype from any list (program or application). Even though it is not "installed" how can you make it dissappear alltogether?

You cannot delete an icon at all. you must uninstall the program and the icon will be deleted automatically. For anything you do not want to uninstall for some reason, try throwing its icon in the extras folder. This is where I put all the stuff I rarely use

Cheers

bgilly 2008-01-07 05:55

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james415 (Post 122202)
You cannot delete an icon at all. you must uninstall the program and the icon will be deleted automatically. For anything you do not want to uninstall for some reason, try throwing its icon in the extras folder. This is where I put all the stuff I rarely use

Cheers


OK, got it. Basically that is what I was thinking but wasn't certain what was out there in programs or hacks. But to re-iterate, I never installed Skype or Rhapsody but there are the icons in the "My Selection" folder I go to the and under installed programs I do not have these two programs but they are in the library if I want to install them. Seems like Nokia must have gotten some contributions from these folks to embed their icons.

Thanks again.

Moonshine 2008-01-07 06:12

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
If you are comfortable at the command line, there are ".desktop" files located in /usr/share/applications/hildon. They are are used to define the menu items availabe.

jaimealves 2008-01-08 14:39

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
I think there's several people like me, thats so excited when receipt your shine new N810, just forgot to look at Nokia Website to check about manuals and suffer about critical info, like the default password to lock/unlock the device :o (12345, btw. Thanks Benz145!).

So, here's a download list of N810 V 1.0 manuals, on several languages:

Nokia_N810_UG_ar.pdf (809.49 KB) - Arabic
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SJPOTQLL

Nokia_N810_UG_da.pdf (778.92 KB) - Danish
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DJFEGH18

Nokia_N810_UG_de.pdf (794.68 KB) - German
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8VC5F9J8

Nokia_N810_UG_es.pdf (800.01 KB) - Spanish
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Z3LW2KCP

Nokia_N810_UG_fi.pdf (767.96 KB) - Finnish
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JRC97VDN

Nokia_N810_UG_fr.pdf (796.41 KB) - French
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=3CYRHIGT

Nokia_N810_UG_it.pdf (789.25 KB) - Italian
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NSUG65WV

Nokia_N810_UG_nl.pdf (786.1 KB) - Dutch
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=71R4MGB8

Nokia_N810_UG_no.pdf (773.04 KB) - Norwegian
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VM8QA8F0

Nokia_N810_UG_pt.pdf (786.87 KB) - Portuguese PT
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R851J86R

Nokia_N810_UG_ru.pdf (798.67 KB) - Russian
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M7M7HD0H

Nokia_N810_UG_sv.pdf (779.07 KB) - Swedish
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=87YL6HO7

[Update :]
I've set a folder showing all files:
http://www.megaupload.com/?f=EPIGJTPJ

atlas95 2008-01-08 15:29

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Nokia N70 (my phone) and my nokia n810 have the same power charger (IN FRANCE)

Jerro 2008-01-08 15:56

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by statwrangler (Post 121441)
3) I wish I knew how to activate the application menu using the keyboard (alt-shift-tab under bluetooth). Then I would never have to worry about beach sand under the "pen" scratching the screen. (Wifi at the beach here.)

Then this tip is for you:
- Go to the Control Panel->Bluetooth Keyboard.
- Select the "Shortcuts" tab.
- Double click "Task Launcher"
- Hit the shortcut you want on your N810 keyboard (there's some restrictions, I use Fn-Chr as the application menu shortcut).

In this menu you can map a lot of different functions to the N810 keyboard, even the hardware buttons on the top of the device.

ydant 2008-01-08 16:26

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atlas95 (Post 123259)
Nokia N70 (my phone) and my nokia n810 have the same power charger (IN FRANCE)

Are you sure they are the same? My N95 has a 200mA charger, while the N810 is a 800mA. The voltages and polarity and tip size are the same, but there's the risk of overheating/failure/insufficient charging/other if you use the 200mA one with the N810. Going the other way won't cause problems.

nobodysbusiness 2008-01-09 04:47

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Here are a few things that I've been glad to discover in my first few hours of using my brand spanking new N810 that arrived today:
- Can increase amount of time before screen dims in control panel. I was having trouble reading all the text on the screen for some web-sites before the dimming started.
- Hold the "down" direction on the d-pad for a few seconds, and it will scroll down the web-page (so glad I discovered this).

Egres 2008-01-09 07:47

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
You always can use Space for PgDn and Shift-Space for PageUp in the Web browser.

morrison 2008-01-10 02:12

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaimealves (Post 123231)
So, here's a download list of N810 V 1.0 manuals, on several languages:

Um, thanks.. but where is the link to download the english one? :(:confused:

I know I know, I can probably get it from Nokia but I thought since you assembled links for all the manuals why exclude english?

Benz145 2008-01-10 03:11

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bgilly (Post 122307)
OK, got it. Basically that is what I was thinking but wasn't certain what was out there in programs or hacks. But to re-iterate, I never installed Skype or Rhapsody but there are the icons in the "My Selection" folder I go to the and under installed programs I do not have these two programs but they are in the library if I want to install them. Seems like Nokia must have gotten some contributions from these folks to embed their icons.

Thanks again.

Maybe you can install them then uninstall them and the icons will be removed?

atlas95 2008-01-10 11:48

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ydant (Post 123305)
Are you sure they are the same? My N95 has a 200mA charger, while the N810 is a 800mA. The voltages and polarity and tip size are the same, but there's the risk of overheating/failure/insufficient charging/other if you use the 200mA one with the N810. Going the other way won't cause problems.

The same thing are writed on the two charger for N70 and N810 ...

anidel 2008-01-10 13:56

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by morrison (Post 124475)
Um, thanks.. but where is the link to download the english one? :(:confused:

I know I know, I can probably get it from Nokia but I thought since you assembled links for all the manuals why exclude english?

You don't own an N810 ?
Because the manuals are all in the "Documents/User guides" folder.

anidel 2008-01-10 13:58

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by atlas95 (Post 124685)
The same thing are writed on the two charger for N70 and N810 ...

Yup I can confirm that the N70, 770, N800 and N810 all have the very same charger.
The N95 has a new kind of charger (that's even different from some Nokia's US phone chargers that is the very same as my Nokia BT headset charger [350mA]).

So far, then, I've seen three different Nokia chargers: our bulky one (the fastest), the US Phones(some)/BT headset charger (350mA, less bulky) and the N95 one (200mA, smaaaaaaaaaall)...

morrison 2008-01-10 14:37

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 124761)
You don't own an N810 ?
Because the manuals are all in the "Documents/User guides" folder.

No I don't own one yet!

nobodysbusiness 2008-01-11 04:17

Re: N810 Tips and Tricks
 
I was playing around with changing the background image on my new N810, and I eventually figured something out that may be non-obvious to other noobs (or maybe I'm just dumb). To get a right-click menu in the web-browser, tap with the stylus and hold it down for a few seconds. The right-click menu will pop up, and there's an "Image" sub-menu in there with a "Save As..." option. Maybe one of these days I'll take a look at the manual. :)


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