App idea : one-tap switcher between handwriting and keyboard inputs
 

Hi, I'm not sure if anyone else has faced this incovenience, but when inputting email addresses, phone numbers, passwords and the like, I have always found it more accurate to use the virtual keyboard over the handwriting recognition. Likewise, for text-heavy inputs, like email composition, etc, I have found handwriting to be a preferred input method

As such, is there any app in existence that allows for quick switching between the two input methods rather than the existing 3 tap method? How easy/difficult would it be to create an applet that resides in the system tray or in the input panels (virtual keyboard and handwriting recognition)?

On a side note, the handwriting recognition engine reminds me of Rosetta, the same engine used by the Apple Newton (I was a Newton user, from the MP100 to the MP2100, including the eMate). Or am I mistaken?

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Oh, now you've gone and woken Karel.

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Whuh? Did someone mention Newton?

FWIW, I don't believe the Itablet's HWR is Rosetta-based (for one, it's way too stupid!). I'm still leaning towards a tweaked version of Decuma Alphabetic.

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Hey Karel, you're a fellow Newton user, I gather :)

Have you noticed in the control panel applet where you can teach the system to recognize the stokes you use for each character, that it is very similar to the one on the Newton. On a parallel note, I think Calligrapher also has something like that.

What I wouldn't give to have full screen handwriting recognition, along with some ability for the system to autocorrect (such that the user can double tap on the incorrect word to highlight it, tap and hold the highlighted text and a context menu would pop up offering copy/cut/paste plus a list of suggested autocorrect words, or enter a custom word, and the system will autocorrect it the next time around).

Another nice feature to have in this HWR app would be a number button -- tapping on it would set the recognizer to guess the input stroke only from a list of numerals, hence improving input accuracy when inputting numbers. Tapping this button again would call up the symbols dictionary, and tapping it again would call up the alphabet dictionary.

Hell, I would be prepared to pay at least fifty dollars for such an application. :D

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Heh.

It's similar, but not identical. And given that Rosetta has been ported to exactly nothing else, I'd say the resemblance is accidental.

I recently sent an email to PhatWare, producers of PenOffice and CalliGrapher, with a request for a port of their program to Linux. They replied that the CalliGrapher engine is already available for Linux, but only as an OEM product that has to be tied to a device. One can only gaze in wonderment at the stupidity of the Nokia researchers who thought it was a good idea to implement the crap we have now instead of PhatWare's offering.

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The N800/810's handwriting app is so useless I'm surprised that anyone wants to make it more convenient to access. It's a lot harder and slower than using the stylus, in my experience. I was oriiginally looking forward to handwriting on my N800 till the clunky N800 system showed me the error of my ways.

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whoa there, it's not THAT bad.

While it is an exercise in patience and learning to write letters with some space between them, it is possible to do so, especially on a flat surface. I find myself having to write in a deliberate fashion rather than my typically messy script (this is probably a good thing), though in all honesty, I do miss cursive HWR that I had on my MP2100.

HWR has never been perfect, though it was pretty decent on the MP2100 and works best when you have lots of screen real estate to work with, like on the MP2100. Ironic that with all the real estate we have on the N800, we are limited to using that miserable 1/5th bottom part of the screen, and that's one reason I'm seriously considering an N810. And GPS helps too ;)

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hmm.. sorry for this question..
i'm a noob you know..
how do you use handwriting? ..like how do u turn it on? where can you use it for? and how do you get qwerty keyboard on the screen?
please explain it to me step by step .. =)

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Remember, I am the only other one in the galaxy doing HWR on the tablet, so just remember my name. I have FORCED myself to use HWR as I also believe it is not THAT bad. I have been doing this for 2 months by now and get to the point I am MORE comfortable to do HWR on the tablet than the palm. Some of the discussion is here,
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...189#post192189.

Although I been using the HWR for two plus month and I am already comfortable to do it on the tablet, I conceed, OSK is faster. Part of it, HWR does not come up fast enough even I set it to the fastest.

I really like your idea of being able to choose between OSK and HWR, I think that is a good feature. Ok, ghoonk, remember bun, you and I are the only 2 creatures in this milkyway using HWR on the tablet.

bun

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Whenever you have to input anything, tap the icon on your Left lower corner, the one looked like a page with a triangle, then click Input method, then you can have a choice of Handwriting (HWR) or Keyboard (OSK). See my signature for shortcut discussions.

bun

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I actually studied kwikscript for months, but eventually gave up on using it.

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sorry.. i didnt get it T.T
what do you mean by input anything?
open "Notes"? the only thing i see on my left lower corner y the 2 squares (a square over another in light blue)
plez help me~

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sorry... i didnt get it T.T
what do u mean by inputing something? do u mean open "Notes" or anything that need to write on?
i cannot see anything on my left lower corner expect for the two squares.. (a square on top of the other in light blue)...
plez help me!~ T.T

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The timing configuration changes listed by bunanson in that thread are excellent, even I am able to use the hand writing recognition now. Not that I really use it much, but it works when I try, unlike with the out-of-the-box settings.

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Xterm, when you tap on the command line $, an icon looked like a page with a triangle, right below Abc1, is where you can set input Method.

post back if problems.

bun

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I opened Xterminal
tap on the command line $...
the line turns black but i dont see any icon looked like a page with a triangle~ :S

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Post a screenshot.

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oh~ i dont see have that qwerty keyboard on my screen.. how do i get that? i have to download it? or turn something on to have that on my screen?

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Just do it.

When you set input as keyboard, you will get the onscreen keyboard. When you set the input as handwritten recognization, you will get 3 black line with empty space. That is normal. Just go to that icon and set you input method.

bun

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sorry bun.. just cant get it..
i went to Control Panel > text input settings > on-screen > enable syulus input methods ticked > launch finger keyboard > with finger and stylus..
even though i have it set up like that.. i still cant see the qwerty keyboard on my screen.. :S
im sorry to bother u so much >_<;; but can u tell me step by step how to set it up and how to set input as keywboard so i can get the onscreen keyboard plez?
my english is bad so plez use easy words on me .. :)
thank you

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Well, that's not meshing quite with my control panel; either you have an N810 (my bet) or are running a different OS.

But if you have it set to launch the finger keyboard with either finger or stylus, you'll never see the stylus keyboard/HWR. Change that setting.

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i have n810~ T.T
is that a problem? what do i have to do then? downaload an app?
can u tell me how do i have to set it up~?
thanks..

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No, it just means I can't be sure from my end; I have an N800, so I don't know exactly the interactions between the keyboard slider and on-screen keyboards, and I don't know what your control panel looks like (it's a bit different).
No.
I just did; while there may be some other issues, I know that it can't work while you have "Launch finger keyboard" set to "With finger and stylus". Change that to either of the other settings and try tapping any text input area (with the slider closed).

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benson you are the best!!~ i set it to "with finger and stylus" and it worked!
but with it covered the almost the hole screen.. i changed it to never.. and it makes a smaller on in the bottom as bun showed me in the pix in page 2..
and i found the page looking icon with a triangle next to it ! :D
thank you very much~ it was not working because i had my n810 slider open~ LOL
i made u guys go to so much trouble >_< im sorry~ and thank you again! =)