Playing PC games via VNC (was Diablo and Diablo 2)
 

For Diablo 2 the PC requierments are as follows:

* Windows® 2000*, 95, 98, or NT 4.0 Service Pack 5
* Pentium® 233 or equivalent
* 32 MB RAM
* 650 MB available hard drive space
* 4X CD-ROM drive
* DirectX™ compatible video card

I'm a newb, don't know much about wine and the n8*0s, but... we got to be able to at least swing Diablo 1... anyone even tried messing around with these?

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Nope, I don't think so. You see, all games that the tablets have have already been released in Linux as far as I know. They have just ported them over to run on Maemo. I don't think there is a linux version of Diablo. I could be wrong though.

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Before receiving my n800, I was planning on playing diablo on it using vmware and vnc on my homeserver. I've since given up on the idea because the frame rate was just too low.

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man i wish, haha one can dream...

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well, I'll keep dreaming. Maybe one day I'll geek out on it. saw reference to diablo 2 with wine, but i tthink that's it.

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does Diablo run in wine? I would imagine someone would need to compile wine for the tablet, I have no idea how big wine is or if its easy to compile for the tablet.

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Diablo 1 works with wine. I used to play it on my Slackware. Its a good game. It would be nice to be able to play it on the Nokia Tablet. :P

Meet me at cloud 9... XD

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Pretty hard, I'd say. Wine doesn't run on ARM as far as I know.

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I guess, as windows bins's are x86 even if wine was compiled, prob wouldn't be able to execute x86 programs on an ARM arch.

-Rip

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WINE : Wine Is Not an Emulator ...

so doesn't emulate x86 on arm !

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Playing on tablet is a torture to say the least. Well, unless the game is chess, marbles or such :)

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Cross-compiling for ARM was discussed a few years ago, but that was the extent of it (that I'm aware of): http://www.winehq.org/site/?issue=285

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You're right: it depends on the game. Zelda Phantom Hourglass on the DS is pretty much stylus only, and it's a great game. It's the most fun I've had with my DS.

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if diablo 1 could run only on dos ... maybe dosbox could run it ?

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I tried running diablo on DOSBOX for the XBOX and it said that it can only be run in a windows environment... Guessing you need Windows 95.

How slow would it be if you ran Diablo though Remote Desktop? I would think VNC would be too slow to run, but I noticed in YouTube videos that R Desktop seemed snappier than VNC. Is this true?

BReady

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Remote Desktop is faster than VNC for showing common Windows native gui stuff. (i.e. scroll bars, windows, buttons) Basically RDP says to the client "draw a 40x80px radio button here" whereas VNC would say "here's a BMP of the button". Unfortunely though, when it comes to games and stuff they're both pretty slow. I've tried playing DosBox games though RDP (dosbox running on my main machine, then RDP into it from tablet) and it is pretty unplayable unfortunately. Yes there's a picture (no sound, yet) but frame rate is pretty low, 1-2fps at BEST. A few games are playable this way, but believe me, it's slower than it may sound.

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I love your cat avatar :)

And this thread is useless. Please let it sink.

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Thank you! :D

I guess I missed the memo about not replying to threads older than 3 days. I promise it won't happen again! ;)

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I can play WoW over LAN/WAN among other games. For that purpose I set up two computers running RealVNC(One being server and one being client) then I use rdesktop to access the client computer and I am then controlling two computers. I use the client computer to access the server computer and then run WoW or other PC games. Slow framerate, especially over WAN, but if you get used to it you can do simple stuff in WoW. Anyway, my classmates at the university was quite amazed when I sat playing WoW on my n810. The perspectives are definitely more interesting than the present usabillty level.

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how come u did that ?
i tried running wow and it said cant run wow using remote controlling
besides the display adapter is not recognized by the n800 and max colors depth is 16 bits !!!

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Did you try using two computers?

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could u explain it pls coz it would be so so grateful if i could do it
i would appreciate it too.
p.s : i want to run wow and perfect world:p

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Yeah, super old thread but, whatever.

I'd like to try and play the original Sims.

With the mostly static background I'm thinking maybe I could get up to 8 fps.

The sucky part is that whenever I connect to the server through VNC, my computer's screen goes black though the game still continues to run.

Any suggestions on this?

Civilization II plays almost perfectly so I don't get the difference between the two.

It would be awesome if I could get it to work. :)

Thanks ahead if anyone posts a response to this.

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http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17638

proberly better keeping a look out on here, if it goes open source it'll be posted here soon after, but until blizzard release it, its pretty much a dead end.

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personally, i would love to see wine running in qemu for that odd game that doesn't run in dos or supported by scummVM. if micro$oft had any brains in that evil giant money making machine of their's, they would produce their own "whine" that does include x86 processor emulation and then let us all have some fun with windows apps on many different platforms....including nokia tablets. but i'm no where saying that windows compares to linux, infact its the opposite, people aught to use linux, but there are many classic games only for windows. and a classic windows game + the amazing portability of linux (it runs on everything) you'd have something pretty cool.

for the porters/devs reading this thread, an alternative suggestion would be something like PSPdisp. playing halo on the psp with PSPdisp is awesome, but really anything usable on your PC would then be usable on your tablet with a similiar app.

how about overlaying a vnc client on top of mplayer? what i mean is, if you had the display of your pc being streamed over to your tablet, you'd have a better frame rate than VNC alone, but layed over the mplayer display of that stream, would be something to capture touchscreen and keyboard input that is transmitted to the vnc server. i'm sure there would be a trade off between quality of the stream and latency. but hell, if you're hoping to play a game on your tablet, i'm sure your first concern wouldn't be having a 1080i display.

the reverse, seeing the output of your tablet (with a high frame rate) on a larger screen, transmitted over usb or wifi would be just as interesting.

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i would love to play the original sims on my tablet aswell, and simcity.

as for civilization II, how about cloning it using stratagus (read about stratagus here and here.) stratagus currently runs on nokia tablets.

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we all have a vgba emulator available and there is baldurs gate which is very similar to diablo if you guys wanna try

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VirtualGL
It should be possible all rendering to be done on the server...

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Thanks Bundyo!

I'll give it a go this weekend.

If this will reasonably run and display the original The Sims on my tablet between 6 and 8 fps, I'll be cheery for a year! :D

lowtek, can you test this before then?

Cheers.

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oh, sorry Addison, when i said clone, i meant that it is possible to either take the original artwork, sound effects and music from the game Civilization II and recreate it in stargus (which I now realize i could be wrong). Although this isn't something simple, but very worth the effort. I've never personally "cloned" a game using stargus.

civilization II isn't an RTS is it? its more like populous? not being an RTS means it most probably can't be cloned using the stargus engine

populous:
http://www.gamersglobal.com/media/sp..._populous2.jpg

it may have already been mentioned, but there is a free open source game inspired by civilization II called Freeciv

EDIT: a google search found that freeciv is already ported to maemo here.

anyway, getting back on topic....i've tried a search for a Diablo 2 inspired open source linux game...no luck yet

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Hey lowtek, I must have spoken incorrectly.

I meant to ask if you would try out Bundyo's idea of using VirtualGL before this weekend.

Do you have time to try it out?

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There are no Maemo packages there though. :(

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Ah poopers.

I thought VirtualGL was something that could be installed on my Windows PC so VNC Viewer would be able to display The Sims on the tablet rather than getting a black screen like I do now.

Grrrrrr...... :)

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i would be very excited to try it for you, but i'm not a coder....but virtualGL could open a lot of doors for games on hand held devices, including cell phones.

but as for right now, it would be cool alone to have a way to "stream" 3D games from a linux computer to a nokia tablet over wifi. like our own version of PSPdisp.

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i first misread VirtualGL as VirtualGIRL....but thats a whole different topic

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I agree.

Nothing like Counterstrike though but rather something simple like The Sims.

Oh well for now.

Oh hell. :)

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I installed it on my desktop, but couldn't compile TurboVNC for N900 to try it out (the other client requires GL probably for the client rendering mode and that can't be switched off). Someone else with more time? :)

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hi Bundyo,

I don't want to seem like i'm stalking you, its just that you always seem to pop up around topics i'm interested in. to quote you:

I wonder if anything came up concerting FreeNX?

could NX accomplish what VNC doesn't? as far as playing a game running on your remote PC?'

and is NX or freeNX related to QTNX?

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VirtualGL+TurboVNC will be probably better because it supports rendering on the server and transferring ready to show images, while if I remember correctly NX is rendering on client.

NX is courtesy of NoMachine. Their server is free to use but restricted to 2 connections at the same time. FreeNX is an OSS implementation of the server based on the released by NoMAchine sources and allows any number of connections, but doesn't implement all features the commercial one has like shadowing and guests (at least last I checked). QTNX is a QT client I think.