Abiword for OS2008?
 

Hi,

I have a N810, and I've been looking for a word processor. In particular, I want to be able to read doc files. Google docs is cool... When you're around a WiFi spot.

I found a version called "Maemo Word Processor" or something like that, but it doesn't install on OS2008, claiming it's not compatible with that version of the OS.

Is there a version that works on OS2008 somewhere? Or an other app that would do the same? (read doc file, simple editing).

Thank you!

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

If only, if only someone had thought about asking that question before you just now, then maybe we would already have had an answer to the question.

Oh, wait...

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

The problem we have had for Abiword is that no one has enough time to build it. Here are the instructions from Ryan Pavlik's blog (thanks Ryan!); perhaps we can do this by distributing the effort into ten-minute sessions?

(http://cleardefinition.com/page/Buil...ord_for_Maemo/)

Build AbiWord for Maemo

Dependencies
From source:
• libfribidi0 (-dev)
• libwv (-dev) - need 1.2 or higher
From Maemo:
• libreadline4 (-dev)
1. Checkout AbiWord from SVN - or, use a tarball (post 2.5.2)
2. From within Scratchbox, in the abiword directory,
2.1. ./autogen.sh (if using SVN)
2.2. ln -s src/pkg/maemo/debian debian (for all)
2.3. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
3. Enjoy? We'll see if this works right...

So let's break this into small tasks: libreadline4 is already on the tablets. Can someone with ten minutes find out where libfribidi0 and libwv should come from? Is there a deb or do we need to build them? Where is the source?

BL

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BruceL: great, thanks for the pointers!

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I managed to compile 2.5.2 after compiling dependencies, and then dependencies of the dependencies, and so on :)
(I've still not bothered copying all the libraries over to actually try running it, though)

I tried to compile from SVN, but configure fails due to a broken sed command somewhere:
config.status: creating libabiword.pc
sed: file ./confstatW14746/subs-4.sed line 41: unterminated `s' command

and line 41 from subs-4.sed:
s,@ALL_PLUGINS@, command collab ots google pdb opml psion applix nroff mathview urldict aiksaurus mht gda bmp loadbindings sdw clarisworks hrtext wpggfx t602 hancom passepartout gdict pdf openxml gimp eml goffice xslfo paint latex grammar babelfish wml jpeg freetranslation docbook wordperfect mif opendocument wmfgfx kword rsvg mswrite win32gfx iscii presentation wikipedia dash openwriter
,;t t

I got past that at some point, but then there were further errors related to the generated configure script that I really didn't care to mess around any further with.

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Same thing here, but no success yet. I'm stuck on gnome-icon-theme-2.20.0.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I think I had some fun with that one too, but version 2.21.4.

It did eventually compile, but I'm not sure what I did, heh.

What error(s) do you get?

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Why don't we put compiled dependency in a common place (i.e. here as an attachment) so that one who wants to try to compile doesn't have to start from scratch? Maybe we can reach the terget more quickly this way.

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JeffElkins: from what I've understood about porting Gnome apps to Maemo, we should be able to patch it to remove Gnome dependencies (hopefully Gnome support is optional and a compilation option can remove that).

BTW, I found that page recently:
https://garage.maemo.org/projects/abiword/
Registered one week ago, it seems to be from the Abiword developers themselves...

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Yes, but it isn't a good place for our build attempts because they won't give access to any outsiders. I just got a form letter thanking me for my interest in Abiword but rejecting my application. We need a place where we can post partial results so that the next one with a few extra minutes can pick up at that point. Btw, we should build the tip because it has the maemo fixes. It may be months before they decide to do an official release; all I need is a working pre-release build.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Hi everybody
so, we have a common goal, that is an abiword-2.x.x-os2008.deb...

I am trying to do the same on my scratchbox. I found that installing gnumeric drastically diminishes the amount of libraries needed to start *trying to compile* abiword. after successful installation of gnumeric, I had to 'fakeroot apt-get install libgsf-1-dev' and now I only ./autogen.sh only complains about package 'wv-1.0', which I don't find and which is causing me a cascade of dependencies.

I am available for setting up a repository with intermediate results on my desktop. I have limited bandwidth, though. if you think this is a good idea, send your debs to mariotomo (chiocciola) inventati (punto) org (actually I already have, I just don't think it is set up the best possible way and I might (re)move it... you find it at http://kruiskruid.demon.nl/~tomo).

if we are to patch abiword, we definitely need a svn/cvs repository! the best way would be, I think, to use a branch on the abiword server, but again, lacking better options, we might use my G3 for this, too...

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I'd suggest to use maemo extras-devel repository instead of making your own. I'm using it for all my projects (openssh, evince, efl, tuxtype) and I'm happy with it.

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Mariotomo:

I think that wv is available (as a tar) from the abisource file server (www.abisource.com/downloads/wv).

Sorry if you've already tried this -- I'm just trying to be helpful.

Thanks, K.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Hi,

i tried to create packages of abiword myself a few weeks ago (and mostly succeeded, it just was a little unstable), i also created packages for the build-dependencies, including wv, libwmf and fribidi. I just uploaded the packages to my repository (http://people.debian.org/~tschmidt/maemo/chinook/). (The packages are all based on the normal Debian packages from Debian stable and Debian unstable with minor modifications to be able to compile them in scratchbox.)

I hope this can save you some time in creating working Debian packages of abiword.


Regards,
Thomas

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Owwwww. Ok, I've done it. Thank you to Chelli and Mariotomo both; Chelli's libart package is missing a file needed to compile, though, and Mariotomo's libart has a different name, but with a bit of editing it all worked.

If anyone else is trying to compile, I recommend checking out the 2.6.0 branch rather than the head code; it's been patched already for OS2008:I used the following flags to configure it:
./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --enable-hildon --enable-embedded=hildon --enable-printing

Also, don't bother trying to run it inside Scratchbox. I haven't gotten it to launch yet. It runs on the IT, though it seems unstable -- also, the 'menu' key doesn't work.

This is a abiword-2.x.x-os2008.deb Mariotomo wanted... but the massive dependencies mean I think this'll work much better:

http://rickybrent.com/maemo/install_button.png


You can get just the deb here, though:
http://rickybrent.com/maemo/debs/dis...emo2_armel.deb

It has a lot of dependencies and may not install depending on if some of those conflict, but it installed alright on my empty N800. I kept printing support (it can print to PDF) because the checks to see if it were turned off have a few problems, and the code won't compile because the printing functions are missing. Partially as a result of that, this is one big package.

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Works, but only the full screen keyboard is usable. The other doesn't show up, spits this message:

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This installs on my N800 running OS 2008 with no problems. But the keyboard does not activate when the text area is clicked. The same thing happens under Scite.

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Hooray! Thank you very much for doing that work. Unfortunately it still crashes at unpredictable times, I am able to use my brand new bluetooth keyboard on something today. I look forward to more!

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

THANK YOU! I managed to install it on my already heavily customized N800... I confirm that the menu button does not react and that without a real keyboard it's a bit difficult to use...

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I'm getting lots of errors while installing abiword

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Mine too, but after all those warnings and errors, abiword works (sort of). It is unstable, right, and not ready for serious using.
But eventually vapourware has condensed into something one can play with.
All my respect to ldrn.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

If you check the abiword page on garage.maemo.org you'll notice there has been some development in the last few days! Things are condensing. I like to think the action on this thread contributed to things getting started.
Thanks again.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

This is great news. I installed it without problems on my N800 and It works with my BT keyboard, saves files, etc. I've been waiting for a decent word processing program in Maemo for a long time. Thanks to everyone who's working on it. The program regularly closes/crashes without warning at this point. I'm really looking forward to a stable release. Yay!

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

These regular crashes were an issue in the earlier phases of porting of Xournal 0.4.1, as documented in the related thread in these forums.
It was quite a "nominalistic" problem, as there were two parameters which were to have the same value in order to let the program run undisturbed, but when they were different the program was silently axed by the system.
Might be something similar? Just my 2 cents...

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

It would be really nice if you could provide me a fix (or at least if you could tell me which file is missing), so my libart package would work for you too.

The reason is that i intend to upload the libart-package (together with the other libraries needed for Gnumeric and Gnumeric) to extras-devel soon, and you could (and should) use my version then anyway.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

You're welcome, everyone! I'm glad it's useful, even in its current error-prone state. I just wish I hadn't made that mistake with the dbus names.. <_<; (Thanks Debernardis!)

I'm really sorry -- I was keeping notes on what I was doing as I went along, but accidentally deleted them and couldn't remember the exact file.

Comparing the versions I used to compile and your files, it looks like it's a symlink in /usr/lib from libart_lgpl_2.so.2.3.19 to libart_lgpl_2.so -- does that even make sense? It seems to compile just fine using entirely your versions of everything now, though.

Again, very sorry. I've spent a few hours trying to track this down, but haven't been able to. It seems like it's a figment of my imagination, but I swear it happened...

* smacks face *
Wow. That was as great read, and my hat's off to Anidel (thank goodness he not only fixed it but posted how he fixed it) and to you for bringing that up. I'd have *never* thought it was that, but it could easily be -- the desktop and dbus service names were different, and then they were different again from the one called by osso_initialize in the code; it was exactly the same issue Xournal was having, and so I tried exactly the fix Anidel found, and it seems to work perfectly. At the very least, crashes are much reduced.

*Hopefully* that's now! It still won't accept stylus input, although the word completion pops up fine, but I updated the version in the repository with fixes along the lines of what Debernardis said -- it seems much, much more stable. It also 'uses' Chelli's libart -- although that's unrelated. (Or largely unrelated...?) which might help with people who get dependency errors while installing.

It's in my repository or you can get the deb here.

It might not install if you haven't installed Abiword before, though, so in that case use the install link.

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Ok, thank you, so i will go on and start uploading packages to extras-devel, probably tommorrow. :)

I would really, realy recommend you to update the version numbers in the debian/changelog file properly on every public release you make (you can use the tool "dch -i" to make this process very easy), the version you currenty use seems to be the one which is inside upstreams svn-repository, it should probably be something like 2.5.99+svn20080127-1 to match the current status better.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Thank you! I will do that from now on.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

Hey - it's Ryan again! I'm working on an official AbiWord on Maemo (Internet Tablet Edition) build - which is what the garage project is. I'm currently running a closed beta test of a Chinook (IT2008) build, and am working on adapting the code to build for ITOS 2007 and possibly 2006 as well. If you are interested in testing an official alpha version and providing feedback to me (and thus also upstream AbiWord), please let me know via PM. At this time, only Chinook (that is, 2008) testers are needed. [Edit: No, I don't like having it closed, but since it feels official, I don't want anybody who doesn't know what they're getting in to - that is, an alpha/beta quality build - to get hurt. No test requests will go rejected, and I'll make the binaries public just as soon as I can run one on my own tablet in a reasonable manner.]

The build is being documented and condensed in the main AbiWord tree as well as in the official abiword maemo garage project. If you'd like to help with the development (ldrn, others?) please join the AbiWord Development mailing list and let us know what you can do! Then, take a peek at our bugzilla - http://bugzilla.abisource.com - pick a bug, fix it, and send the patch to the list. Requests for help also hit the list, so that's a way you can lend a hand as well. I appreciate all help - we've got a bug database that needs some pruning and definitely some Maemo and general AbiWord bugs that could use some squashing! If you want more info on the easiest bugs to get started hacking on, PM me - in general, the ones listed as "front end - GTK" are the simplest if you use Linux.

Thanks for your patience and assistance! I still anticipate having an official AbiWord on Maemo build released simultaneously with 2.6.0 on all platforms!

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PS - BruceL - didn't mean to "reject outsiders" and that wasn't a form letter - I actually write like that :) I hadn't read this thread before today, and so wasn't sure whether you'd be able to help. Yes, that garage project is official - please join the abidev mailing list (pretty low volume) to help out - the project is small enough that we like to keep things all together upstream. I've put almost all the built dependencies up there - the garage interface is a pain to upload lots of files, so it will take me a while to get them all up.

Has anyone had experience putting things on extras-devel? I've been rebuilding Ubuntu Gutsy packages when I need a dependency (yes, I updated the instructions with the latest work I've done) and would like someone to double-check my work (do I need to do something with dch, for instance?) then be able to share it so we don't have to duplicate effort.

I haven't needed libart, and I'm not sure why since I seem to recall needing it before. Perhaps it's a dep of libgsf, of which there is now a good version in the repositories?

I don't want to give the impression that "your build attempts" belong elsewhere - I really want everyone to be included that can contribute, since with a community as small as the AbiWord dev community, it makes little sense to splinter. As long as I have some assurance that you'll use commit access responsibly and document all procedures (build instructions, etc), I'd be happy to offer project commit access on the Maemo Garage project.

I am a real person that wants to work with you, but even more wants you to work with the whole community behind me too! (Abi devs are not some far off corporate they, but rather some small-medium quantity of almost all volunteers - none of us has AbiWord as our "day job" as far as I know. We're not OpenOffice.org....)

Thanks for your help - I'm glad there is so much interest and now so many folks with ability to assist!

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Oh, I bet libart is for libgnomeprint. The current packaging disables that, though I'd like to get that working eventually. I could use some help in getting instructions for all these dependencies - most are pretty easy rebuilds from Gutsy, but some have a few caveats.

Join the Maemo Garage project if you can help with this - I think we have a wiki there maybe (?) or if not I know we have SVN that we can keep documentation in.

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Thanks!!!!! your sweat equity in this project is much appreciated!

E

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Yep! I included it to get around an error that later turned out to be caused by something else I misconfigured, but I kept it so I can print to PDFs. (It will occasionally crash when you try; I'm looking into why.)

Thank you for coming here and telling us what the current state of things are! I'm happy to help as I can.

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ldrn, megabyte405, please keep pdf exporting/printing - it's really useful.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

I'd definitely love to have PDF export (printing) - I'm guessing it might not happen for 2.6.0, since it requires some more dependencies, but now with the help folks are offering it may actually work out! It is at least in the eventual plans, that's for sure. (and it turns out that building these things is a lot easier once you go into sb-menu, setup, and enable the debian-etch devkit and the doctools devkit - it means that for the most part I can just rebuild Ubuntu Gutsy sources for the dependencies.)

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Would it be possible to use the ghostscript package that comes with Xournal, or cups-pdf for PDF printing from Abiword?

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Well, neither of those are necessary. Really, the only thing we need (and the only thing we can use) for printing is libgnomeprint(-ui), which includes PDF printing support, so that's good. I just want to get the basics working first before I drag that in. (It might be able to use cups if you have it installed to do a network printer or something - I haven't worked on that much.)

I'm rebuilding the beta for those of you who requested access to it. Please let me know if you're willing to test - my discussions with ldrn confirm that some of the bugs I'm seeing are due to the emulator, so it's super-essential that people with 2008 devices help me out :)

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

i have installed abiword. now when i try to open .doc files all the text are just questionmarks. pictures inside the doc opens right. do i need some other programs installed with abi? or should i install it in some oother way than just clicking the dep file from webpage.

Re: Abiword for OS2008?
 

RE: the word doc thing: What version did you use? That is a known bug with an old version of WV and the stripped-down Maemo libraries. I'll see if I can get a new release with the bug fix in place - that should be doable by 2.6.

Beta testers - I am currently uploading a new build - should be up within 30 min of this post. PLEASE NOTE - you must uninstall the old one before installing the new one - I had to change the versioning so the old one must be removed first (or it won't get upgraded) You can use the rest of the packages from the previous build, they are all the same. Yes, I tested this one in scratchbox successfully - there is something wrong with the app menu (start it from a terminal by running abiword) but it does start and appear to work.

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Greetings Ryan (and Everyone Else):

I still have the same problem (even with the new build) of no executable to run. . .

There is a symbolic link 'abiword' in /usr/bin which calls 'AbiWord-2.6', but there is no such file anywhere on the tablet that I could find. In 2.4 versions, 'AbiWord-2.4' resides in /usr/bin.

A direct call to AbiWord-2.6 (as either root or user) also yields no results.

Anyone else having the same problem?

Thanks, K.