Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 128262)

Anyone? Anyone?

Originally Posted by Greyghost (Post 128789)

Hi Penguinbait,

Indeed, I am thinking of this very issue as I have spent almost every minute with my tablet playing with KDE! I really really like it because it is so customizable, and I am just learning the environment, so I don't have a lot of specific recommendations till I work with it some more.

I do have a question that is at least related to settings, or my inability to figure out how to change them=). I have initially been playing with the desktop because it offer so much flexiblity, but I may have painted myself into a corner. Here's what happened: I was tinkering with the taskbar, using the 'add applet/application' feature, but in a wayward 'tap', I managed to 'lock' the taskbar in such a way that I cannot now add new applets.

Now, I did some searching this morning and found a similar situation in an ubuntu forum, but no solution was posted, alas.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376817

Lazy guy that I am, rather than join that forum and ask there, I thought I'd ask you first, or at least see if anyone else reading this thread knows what I am talking about. If you've been using it you might know that there is a little bar and arrow that is 'attached' to the applets in the taskbar, but after locking the taskbar, those control panels were 'conveniently' removed and I cannot figure out how to get them back.:(

EDIT: @ Pincushion, I see in your post that you know what I'm referring to here....any ideas?

Reading the documentation at the KDE site wasn't helpful, alas, especially because the link to the user guide returned a 404 this morning, but I did gather that the application that control this behavior might be called 'Kicker'. Unfortunately I was unable to find this app on my ITT install. I could be wrong about the Kicker thing...

Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks!

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 128790)

My suggestions is to use vnc, KDE comes with VNC server running by default. So once KDE is installed, you can vnc to your tablet. This will allow you to right click which is the easiest way I can think of to manipulate the taskbar.

Note that you can vnc to and from KDE and you and rdesktop to and from KDE.

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 128707)

The following is my list of settings that I use on my N810. I use KDE pretty much exclusively. I only go into Maemo anymore if I need to do a one click install of an app/update (ie: no deb available).

Originally Posted by Greyghost (Post 128795)

Thanks for the prompt reply. Do you mean that what's missing is my ability to 'right-click'? Using VNC would give me that ability, but isn't there a way to restore/unlock my taksbar with the ITT?

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 128799)

OK, I see, I am not sure how you locked it in the first place, but there is a lock and an unlock, use vnc right click, easiest way to fix

might be a key combo predefined for lock/unlock?

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 128790)

Note that you can vnc to and from KDE and you and rdesktop to and from KDE.

Originally Posted by mardibloke (Post 128851)

Sorry for the tangent - do you remember what the password is for the vnc server? Trying to connect from ultravnc client I get authentication error. I believe I changed the passord ok in krfb on N800.

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 129091)

@Greyghost - I don't think you locked your system tray by pressing the "Lock" button, you locked your "Session". Have you tried logging out? Or perhaps rebooting? To the best of my knowledge you can't "lock" your system tray.

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 128707)

4)You can add/remove applets from the system tray and panel. If you tap on the left side of section of the panel that holds the item you want to edit, you will see a little white criss-cross verticle line with a tiny arrow at the top. Tap on that arrow and menu will pop up that allows you to edit the panel. It can be tricky to tap the arrow, so be patient if it takes a few tries.

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 129731)

Oh dear, Greyghost - I was trying to figure out your locked Panel issue, and accidently locked mine too. :( I feel like such a dork. Anyways, I searched and searched but can't find an alternative route, other than VNC. I don't know how to use VNC either and haven't had the time yet to figure it out.

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 129094)

There is a lock on the taskbar. if you right click there is a lock, if you lock it, you right click again you can unlock it.

PCQ, did you know vnc server was running on your IT?

Originally Posted by Greyghost (Post 130036)

OMG! This worked! It was amazingly simple. In KDE, I went to Internet, opened RDesktop, created an invitation, got the ip and password, used tight vnc on my pc to get in. It worked and, best of all, I was able to right click and unlock the taskbar! Woo--freaking-hoo!:D:D:D

PB, KDE absolutely rocks!!

Terminology: BTW, after I looked at it, I realize wasn't locking the 'taskbar'. I was locking the 'panel' and this is why it was a bit confusing for me to figure out. Anyway, thanks again, PB for pointing me in the right direction!

Originally Posted by mardibloke (Post 130150)

Noticed the other day if you drop out of KDE on N800, you can still VNC into the N800 :eek:

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 130088)

No need to create any invitations, just point vncviewer at tablet IP and connect, passwd is rootme

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 128707)

The following is my list of settings that I use on my N810. I use KDE pretty much exclusively. I only go into Maemo anymore if I need to do a one click install of an app/update (ie: no deb available).

1) First I'll start with how to get around the fact that some of the windows are too big for the N810 screen. What I've done to make the windows that are too big accessible, is to go into Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts -> here you can assign buttons to do various tasks while in KDE. For example on my N810 there is a "menu" button to bring down the menu in Maemo apps - that is pretty much worthless as is in KDE (KDE just recognizes it as F4) so I assigned it to "Move Window". Now whenever I want to easily see the bottom of window that are too long (mainly so I can tap OK/Apply/Cancel etc...) I just press that button and then use the stylus to move the window to wherever I want it.

2) any N810 owners should use Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys -> Check "Use Sticky Keys" and "Lock Sticky Keys". This will allow your Fn & Shift keys to work like they do in Maemo (ie: Tap Fn then tap the 2nd button instead of needing to tap both at the same time).

3) I've also mapped the "Home" button to "Minimize" and "Shift + F4 (menu button)" to "Close" and so on until all of my buttons were mapped to what I want. You can also do alternative assignments for each of the commands which is handy if you're using a BT keyboard so using the keyboard uses buttons/keys that are convenient to it and my BT keyboard has it's own set of shortcuts.
You can also make application specific keyboard shortcuts - for example when I'm in KOrganizer, Ctrl +N will bring up the New Event dialog. You get the idea...

4)You can add/remove applets from the system tray and panel. If you tap on the left side of section of the panel that holds the item you want to edit, you will see a little white criss-cross verticle line with a tiny arrow at the top. Tap on that arrow and menu will pop up that allows you to edit the panel. It can be tricky to tap the arrow, so be patient if it takes a few tries.

5)Because I use KDE all the time, I wanted as much memory and CPU available for it as I could get. So I turned off all applets, email etc in Maemo.

That's at least a start...I've gotta run but will add more later :D

Originally Posted by dubwise (Post 131005)

Yes, I'm advocating for the daemon, not KAlarm.
KAlarm crashes if you look at it funny.
Running KAlarm to get the daemon launched once,
and then battling to kill KAlarm is a little counterintuitive.

Has the Calendar and alarms been working well for you?
That's actually the main thing I want out of KDE.
I'm still trying to stop carrying my Tungsten C for DateBook5,
and nothing in Maemo is working well enough yet.

Could your video problems be swap usage?
Perhaps without KDE running you're not hitting the swap file.

Originally Posted by PinCushionQueen (Post 130941)

@ Penquinbait - I think you've included all the shortcuts I can think of... my only question is why make these all preset? Why not have the user just set up whatever shortcut they want (it's a really simple process)? Second - I can't for the life of me get the right-click shell script to assign to a button. It will run from xterm but I can't get it to run from a hotkey? I've been trying to use Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions to set up the hotkey. What am I doing wrong? Or what are you doing instead?

I am setting up under keyboard shortcuts, commands, you select it from the menu,

Also, my husband (he's a code monkey) kinda rewrote the script he claims he made it "betterr" - I can send you the revised copy if you're interested - but I totally understand if you just want to stick with yours (if it 'aint broke don't fix it kinda thing).
Sure send it along, It was just a hack and slash, got something cleaner, I'll take a look


As for Dubwise's suggestions - I agree that a link to Battery-Status should be included. I think I already sent you one when I sent you all those .desktop files.

ALL THE LINKS you sent me will be included, along with a Hildon Menu Section, I aslo created a link in the Hildon menu section to /usr/share/applications/hildon so you can get to the hildon shorcuts as you add new apps,

I want to use battery-status, but I can't get python to install? I would like to make some custom scripts for battery-ststus, for use with KDE to notify if power is 50% and 30% ? maybe make it configurable

However, I'm not sure about the KAlarm/alarm daemon thing. There's something buggy in KAlarm. It took me a week to get KAlarm to quit loading automatically at startup - I kept getting seg11 faults everytime I tried to change the KAlarm settings. I wanted to turn it off because since I use KOrganizer anyways and I was trying to minimize extraneous memory usage - I figured that KAlarm was expendable (since I can just set an alarm in KOrganizer or use EggTimer for a quicky alarm). I could quit KAlarm after it loaded at startup, but that's a PITA. Finally one day after trying repeatedly trying to disable automatic loading of KAlarm - it just stopped loading- I have absolutely no idea why. My Kalender and To-do alarms all still work. So maybe Dubwise is on to something with the alarm daemon - once it's activated once it will keep running.

Kalarm loads fine, I did not actually try to create an alarm? I am looking for guidance as to what I can do to see the problem, or fix the problem?


One thing I'd love to see fixed (if possible of course) is Menu Editor. I've currently got all of my Maemo shortcuts on my desktop but only because Menu Editor won't actually save any shortcuts I make. Menu Editor says that it's saving - I get no error messages or anything - but when I close the editor and open KMenu again - the link I made is no where to be found. I would be nice unclutter my desktop some - especially since I don't use Maemo anymore.

I think this is permissions problem, see other post

And have you found any way to fix the jpeg problem? I'm just curious if you've come acrossed any fix for it yet.

This will only be fixed by a recompile, and I have know Idea how to fix it :(

While we're on the subject of settings/fixes... Has anybody come up with settings for either smplayer or mplayer to play movies without skipping and lagging in KDE. I can play my movies in Maemo with mplayer no problem but from xterm in KDE mplayer video just lags and stops/starts, same with smplayer. These are all divx files.

Originally Posted by dubwise (Post 131005)

Yes, I'm advocating for the daemon, not KAlarm.
KAlarm crashes if you look at it funny.
Running KAlarm to get the daemon launched once,
and then battling to kill KAlarm is a little counterintuitive.

Has the Calendar and alarms been working well for you?
That's actually the main thing I want out of KDE.
I'm still trying to stop carrying my Tungsten C for DateBook5,
and nothing in Maemo is working well enough yet.

Could your video problems be swap usage?
Perhaps without KDE running you're not hitting the swap file.

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 131034)

Please tell me what I should do to Kalarm if I need to make a change?

Originally Posted by penguinbait (Post 131034)

PCQ is installed via boot from SD, so she does not have swap.img, but either way swap is independant of KDE, your swap is what it is regardless of what KDE does.