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RaTm 2008-01-16 16:02

ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
G'day everybody!
I would like to know what you think about reactOS (http://www.reactos.com) and if it's possible to port it to the IT...
It is actually pretty fast - also on slow machines (like the IT) - and you can just install alot of windows-compatible applications on it - like the hole moz-stuff (firefox and so on)...

Kay

fredoll 2008-01-16 16:08

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
ReactOS is made for x86 architecture ... IT are ARM based ...
It is made to run windows apps ...

djashjones 2008-01-16 16:10

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
if you read the site a bit more, you will see this. :(

Quote:

On which processors will ReactOS run?
ReactOS currently only supports the x86 processor architecture, although a PowerPC port is in the planning stage. ReactOS will run on Intel(R) Pentium(R) x64, Intel Xeon(R) x64, AMD(R) Athlon(R) x64 and AMD Opteron(R) processors in 32-bit mode, but the 64-bit functionality of these processors is not currently supported.

RaTm 2008-01-16 16:11

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Damn... you're right... :(

Wouldn't it be possible to compile it for ITs, so that it will also run with ARM-processors!?

Please check this: http://www.reactos.org/en/dev_compile.html

I have not that experience with linux so i can't try it by myself - but i still hope that there will be a way to do it...

Benson 2008-01-16 17:07

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Supposing you could compile it, it would still only run win32/arm binaries, of which 0 exist.

cashless 2008-01-16 17:36

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
I think many (maybe most) people that bought the IT did so because it's a linux device. I personally bought it because I want to learn more about linux. There's plenty of Windows CE or such devices that fill the windows handheld need. Maybe that's what you're looking for...

RaTm 2008-01-16 18:48

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
I had some MDAs (some kinda "mobilephone-PDAs") before.
This devices always run windows mobile and this OS is extremly slow... Maemo is faster!
I think it would be great to have an tiny UMPC for 250$...

Syntra 2008-01-16 19:42

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
I'd say go beg someone to port Wine for KDE.

qole 2008-01-16 19:55

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Wine won't work on the IT, because, as Benson said, there's no such thing as Windows applications compiled for the ARM chip. Wine needs an x86 chip to work.

Syntra 2008-01-16 20:15

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Ahh, I didn't know that.

Would there be some sort of way to emulate x86 architecture?

Bundyo 2008-01-16 20:58

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Um, Qemu? :) but veeeeery slow...

gsagers 2008-01-16 21:13

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Bochs can also do it, but also extremely slow. If you search the forums, I got Win98 booted on the tablet, via Bochs, but it took 30 minutes just to boot!

Benson 2008-01-16 22:06

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
ROFLCOPTER!!

Pardon my French, but Win98 on IT is crazy. 30 minutes to boot sounds about right, though. CISC emulation on RISC is not the way to awesome performance.

GreatLord 2008-01-17 00:34

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Hi
I am a ReactOS devloper
We are porting ReactOS at moment to Mac PowerPC and XBOX at moment
and our devloping tools in rosbe only support x86 at moment later we will include PowerPC for it, Then we maybe will do next port to arm or mips we have not yet decide for it take long time todo a port. for u need rewite hal, and part of ntoskrnl
todo a port. after that you also need bootloader for the os adding support to freeldr, next issue is to fix our include files handling arm cpu for the inline asm

I do not think we will see soon a port to arm. we already are working on ppc and xbox we do not have people egunt todo more port.

djashjones 2008-01-17 09:19

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
nice to have you here.

Quick question i will be getting a UMPC when the one i want to come out. Is there any performance increase in this OS compared to MS XP?

Basically why use ReactOS over MS OS?

GreatLord 2008-01-17 12:29

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Hi
About speed diffent betwin ReactOS and XP
yes it is speed diffent. some part are optimze in ReactOS it is faster that XP some other part like font drawing is around 25% slower that xp, The font drawing system have not been optimze at all. Some other part is faster that XP as well. if u try windows xp in qemu then try ReactOS in qemu you will notice that ReactOS is alot faster that XP, in general. But rember the optimzing of ReactOS have not even started or look into yet.

Why using ReactOS when we have windows xp ?
ReactOS is opensource and it give people a choice to use a free OS and do not need pay licen money to Microsoft. And it also give us options make it faster and less havy and less bloat. Why using Linux and Unix it is same question.

Rember ReactOS is still alpha stages and we are working to getting it to beta stages.

gsagers 2008-01-17 18:47

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
It'd be interesting to see if x86 ReactOS would boot in bochs/qemu on the tablet. Maybe when I have some extra time on my hands....

djs_tx 2008-01-17 22:59

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Buy an OQO.

React OS is fast because it removes a lot of windows bloat. The IT is slow because it is a handheld, battery powered device. IF you could port react OS to the IT, it would not be any faster than the linux OS on the IT. The OS on the IT is mature and has had a lot of smart geeks optimizing it. I'm not saying that the IT OS is perfect, but you're not going to get a speed boost by porting an OS designed to maintain binary compatibility with Windows X86 software.

David

BOFH 2008-01-17 23:25

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Hey gsagers,

Can you post how for got Win98 working ?
I've been trying to get Win 3.11 working but it kept locking up....

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsagers (Post 128923)
Bochs can also do it, but also extremely slow. If you search the forums, I got Win98 booted on the tablet, via Bochs, but it took 30 minutes just to boot!


gerdich 2011-02-08 13:46

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
What's the state of reactos for arm?

It could be nice to run on the n900 applications that you have programmed for x86 Windows. (Even if you have to recompile for "windows-arm" which does not even exist with MS.)

This would be a more complete "Windows" on n900 than W7phone.
And you could run windows.net.

Captwheeto 2011-02-08 14:28

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Partially booting. They're using the A8 which is good. It will never come to the n900 and if it ever does the overhead of trying to run x86 binaries would be too slow.

Windows recently announced an ARM port themselves. I'd pay to not use Windows but there's hope for others ;)

retsaw 2011-02-08 15:00

Re: ReactOS on Nokia Nxxx
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerdich (Post 938969)
What's the state of reactos for arm?

It could be nice to run on the n900 applications that you have programmed for x86 Windows. (Even if you have to recompile for "windows-arm" which does not even exist with MS.)

This would be a more complete "Windows" on n900 than W7phone.
And you could run windows.net.

If you are going to be recompiling applications anyway, couldn't you make use of the ARM port of Wine, that's what winelib is intended for anyway, to allow easy porting of Windows apps to Linux (and other platforms Wine runs on). ReactOS borrows heavily from ARM anyway, would it really be worth dual-booting with ReactOS to make use of a few Windows apps that you would have to recompile to make use of?


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