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HWL 2008-01-17 05:50

Trying to completly clear the N800
 
I have discovered that reflashing does NOT erase all information or programs in the 800. Is there a step I am missing to completly clear the unit so I can install programs without the unable to install errors? I have a second 800 and they do NOT act the same. Cant even get Skype to install...
Thanks

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-17 06:18

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Reflashing does clear everything, unless you somehow managed to contruct a JTAG plug and mess up something there.

Are you perhaps restoring a backup?

HWL 2008-01-17 14:34

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
I have two units I have been evaluating. I finally have been able to get all the apps I need working on one of the two (call it A).

The important ones (in the install order) are Notes, Xournal, OMWeather, (install and delete Rhapsody), Gnumeric, VNCViewer, Gftp, becomeroot, and Skype. Then, I also install the osso-status-cpu and simple launcher. (I have never gotten Autoscan to work on either unit).

I documented my steps on the A unit. So I flashed B, and tried a restore from a backup external from A, which failed at some point. So I flashed B again, and started my procedure again from a non-restore, total "re-install". Not only would the first app not load (Xournal), but next Skype will not install. Remember, I have a working unit with a documented install procedure. From a fresh flash, I cannot install Skype....
so I figure, something is stored in memory. Any help is appreciated. I may try to call Nokia (shrug).

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-17 14:46

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Something in memory wouldn't make things not install. You've misdiagnosed your problem.

Provide a log file from Application Manager, and we can work to a solution.

HWL 2008-01-17 15:07

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Just reflashed B again. Did the normal mandatory start up stuff, and immediately went to install Skype and it is "unable to install".

Log:

hildon-application-manager 2.0.2
----------
Installing Skype 1.7.62.51.1
Failed using a MMC to download packages. Using default.
E: Can't create directory at /media/mmc2/.apt-archive-cache/:Read only file system
E: Unable to lock the download directory

Thanks for your time.

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-17 15:17

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Your internal flash card is corrupted. Stick in in a card reader or something and format it.

cvmiller 2008-01-17 15:20

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HWL (Post 129343)
Just reflashed B again. Did the normal mandatory start up stuff, and immediately went to install Skype and it is "unable to install".

Log:

hildon-application-manager 2.0.2
----------
Installing Skype 1.7.62.51.1
Failed using a MMC to download packages. Using default.
E: Can't create directory at /media/mmc2/.apt-archive-cache/:Read only file system
E: Unable to lock the download directory
.

There's your problem. For some reason it can't create a file on the internal SD card. Not sure why a) your internal card is marked as a readonly system b) why the application manager is trying to write to the internal SD card.

Do you have a card in the internal SD slot? Is it formatted VFAT?

There is probably a config file that tells the application manager to use the internal SD slot, which can be changed. But for now, I would suggest putting a SD card into the internal SD slot.

Craig...

HWL 2008-01-17 15:28

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Thanks all..I will get on it.

FWIW, Tried to dl the Skype file from the Nokia site and got this log:
hildon-application-manager 2.0.2
/usr/bin/dpkg-deb -f '/var/tmp/skype-debian_1.4.0.118-1_i386.deb'
Package must have "Section: user/FOO" to be considered compatible.
FAILED: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-12)
FAILED: libqt4-core (>= 4.2.1)
FAILED: libqt4-gui (>= 4.2.1)
FAILED: libsigc++-2.0-0c2a (>= 2.0.2)
FAILED: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-12)
-----
Installing skype 1.7.62.51.1
Failed using a MMC to download packages. Using default.
E: Can't create directory at /media/mmc2/.apt-archive-cache/: Read-only file system
E: Unable to lock the download directory

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-17 15:33

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvmiller (Post 129351)
Not sure why a) your internal card is marked as a readonly system

Because that's what happens when it gets corrupted

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvmiller (Post 129351)
b) why the application manager is trying to write to the internal SD card.

Because that's where it caches stuff during installation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvmiller (Post 129351)
Do you have a card in the internal SD slot? Is it formatted VFAT?

The answer to the first question is, of course, yes (otherwise it wouldn't throw an error :rolleyes:). The second question is irrelevant.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvmiller (Post 129351)
There is probably a config file that tells the application manager to use the internal SD slot, which can be changed. But for now, I would suggest putting a SD card into the internal SD slot.

The card's filesystem is corrupted (there are a number of ways this could have happened). It's time to backup anything on it that you need and reformat. You can reformat it either with the built-in filemanager (you'll have to disable virtual memory first, if you have it enabled, though), or by plugging the card into a card reader of some kind and reformatting it with a computer.

superstar 2008-01-17 15:36

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvmiller (Post 129351)
There's your problem. For some reason it can't create a file on the internal SD card. Not sure why a) your internal card is marked as a readonly system b) why the application manager is trying to write to the internal SD card.

Do you have a card in the internal SD slot? Is it formatted VFAT?

There is probably a config file that tells the application manager to use the internal SD slot, which can be changed. But for now, I would suggest putting a SD card into the internal SD slot.

Craig...


Where and how do you find/change the config file?

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-17 15:38

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superstar (Post 129362)
Where and how do you find/change the config file?

No. If you're experiencing the same problem, just reformat your card (you want to use it to store data anyway, right?).

HWL 2008-01-17 16:00

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
QUOTE: The card's filesystem is corrupted (there are a number of ways this could have happened). It's time to backup anything on it that you need and reformat. You can reformat it either with the built-in filemanager (you'll have to disable virtual memory first, if you have it enabled, though), or by plugging the card into a card reader of some kind and reformatting it with a computer.

Fascinating! So I just took out all the memory cards. So far, Skype loaded fine, same with Xournal. Gnumeric gave me an error but DID install (it did the same thing on the A unit too - says "unable", but does install). Then VNC and Gftp. I'm on the way!
I wonder how many hours I wasted cause of a corrupted memory card?
Thanks for the info on the LOG file too.

GeneralAntilles 2008-01-17 16:15

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HWL (Post 129386)
Fascinating! So I just took out all the memory cards. So far, Skype loaded fine, same with Xournal. Gnumeric gave me an error but DID install (it did the same thing on the A unit too - says "unable", but does install). Then VNC and Gftp. I'm on the way!
I wonder how many hours I wasted cause of a corrupted memory card?
Thanks for the info on the LOG file too.

If there's no card, it just falls back on the internal storage. This can be a problem for installing applications once you get closer to filling that up, though.

superstar 2008-01-17 17:12

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 129365)
No. If you're experiencing the same problem, just reformat your card (you want to use it to store data anyway, right?).

Correct, I guess I just wanted to tinker with the choices, searched but all I found was "become root" and logging to terminal, I can do that just that I don't know where to go from there...

ylsf 2008-01-29 04:16

Re: Trying to completly clear the N800
 
Thanks for this thread. It took me a while to find the log (from a small reference in another thread) but once I found the log I searched for the error message and came across this thread. I also couldn't install any app. I got different error messages, tried removing my SD card but I had completely forgotten about the internal memory. Reformated the internal memory (the card that came with the n800) and everything seems to be working now.


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