770 and Chinook?
 

I remember Nokia talking somehing about porting 2008 to "the one and only real internettablet" 770. Any rumours about that? Any ideas whether it is of any use to wait for 2008 or is it simply too much for 770?

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

It's 'planned' so they say. :) But I'm sure Nokia has it sitting on the back burner.

Here's another thread talking about it.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=10857 :)

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

They just released 2008 (Chinnok) HE for the 770 today. See http://maemo.org/midcom-permalink-a5...ed42d754965496 for the official announcement. Warning they say that it is really pushing the hardware to the limit and some stuff doesn't work at all.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

damn... dunno though. sounds rather horrific.

I'll post my results later... :)

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Translated into English the words on Maemo mean:
Chinook on the 770 is a proof of concept only, you should simply forget it.

I really liked my 770, but seen from today, it's underpowered,
as it was when it was introduced,
and the OS (2005,2006,..) never was really stable.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

What the heck, my 770 is hardly used since I got my n800 so I installed. First thing so far is wireless won't connect to my work access point. I don't know if it is the 770 or work. 2008 does run on it though, that much I can say.:)

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Bluetooth internet connection on my sprint 6700 works fine.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

so does wireless work then?

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

I have to wait until I get home to check my access point, the one at work doesn't want to allow me to connect. Bluetooth does work. I also can't connect via usb to my computer to transfer files. When browsing, the screen does not stutter like on my n800 when scrolling down on the screen. This would be an improvement over my n800:).

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

yes, no problem, at least WPA-PSK

My first impressions
- I'm actually surprised and impressed that it works
- it is not that much slow (i hope it will be better when copied to mmc)
- memory is a problem, this is expected as microb eats 128 MB on N8x0 too. echo 60 >/proc/sys/vm/swappiness helps with oom killer but swaps more

I hope they won't ditch it, first version of OS2007 and first HE version based on it was quite slow too. And this one is not based on latest 2.2007.50-2 OS2008 firmware. Also I hope some optimizations will be done in later OS2008 releases and HE will benefit from it.

Even if this may be not preferred system for all 770 users, it can be used for running something available only for chinook or as a base for slimmed down or some customized one purpose system (created with Chinook SDK). Many thanks for this.

EDIT: Also one issue found - speaker sound is too quiet on my device.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

I am able to stream WMA radio stations on my n800 with 2008, did they leave the drivers in this to work on the 770?

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Hi Fanoush

Will your modified initfs work with this new hacker edition?

Thanks,
-John

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Okay. Up and running and looks good so far.
Installed dropbear, become root and followed the guide to get usb networking up (as my phone is playing up at the moment and drops the connection most of the time).
Will keep you posted on progress.
-John

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

so this seems to be the end of Maemmo OS development for 770 if 770 is your only IT device. I hope that there would be another HE2007 release, though, as it seems to be the best os for 770 (at least for me). What I'm missing is a more stable microb and pack porting of the "closed lid function" from OS2006. Everything else seems to be working pretty well. By the way there is an update of microb (0.8.4) when I check updates from 770HE. Should one install that or not? I have not had the courage/stupidity of updating after some crashed opera experiences.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Uh, this works fine, right? Screen turns off fine for me. . . .

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

but can you control whether wlan/BT is disconnected when closing the lid?

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

I don't think this release will pick up on the close lid events.
There are time out values which can be set for any connection as far as I can see.
If you need it you could probably just configure a script to listen for a the dbus close lid event and shut down the network interfaces based on that. Shouldn't be too hard to work out I would think.

FYI
Wireless network over wpa2 works flawlessly although the slow speed of the browser does limit the usefulness of this release.
Handwriting recognition is a bit better again, but the full screen keyboard and pick pad are still quicker for me. All the text entry seems quite quick on the 770 - comparabe to OS2007HE.
Need to get a few more apps installed to see how it all works. Will have a go with maemo mapper, but with no 2008 install for 1.4.7, I think it may be just a bit slow.
So far stability has not been an issue but I am not really pushing it much yet.
-John

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

I don't suppose a few of the other 2008 goodies have tagged along ? (Such as BT HSP profile support ?)

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Some Questions:

If the 770 is underpowered then why is debian working fast on it.

If Chinook is more optimized for the internet tablets than a full featured linux distribution then why is it slower than debian?

Hacker editions are only ads for getting 770 owners to buy a new IT. They also take away some fear away from N800 owners because they are next ...

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

At least Skype is available by default on OS2008HE... Starts up, didn't try a call though.

Also another interesting thing is that the brightness applet now has 10 positions instead of 5 in the normal OS2008. Maybe we should expect this minor update in it too...

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Mplayer is working with some convincing ;)

first install n8x0 mplayer with apt-get, then remove it (but only the mplayer and not the dependencies), then install the 770 one with this command (downloaded in the same dir):

Then do a libhildonfm link (that's for the ugly frontend only):

EDIT: Only tried one movie, maybe there will be some problems with external codecs.

That's all folks ;-)

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Does this have all the necessary hardware to act as usb host like the n800 with 2008? I know I can host with external power with 2007he but can I use usb host with the adapter I made and a usb memory stick? Also, am I the only one who can't connect via usb to my computer with 2008he?

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Did you restore backup? I had the same "problem" in my N800 when I restored OS2007 backup... Once I did not restore backup I had the correct 5 steps.

Do the lowest 5 steps have any effect on brightness on 770? (In my N800 the didn't.)

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

No, no backup, just fresh install.

Yes, all the steps have effect, the lowest one is very dark...

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Bundyo: Where do you see Skype installed by default ? You must mean Gizmo....

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

No, Skype is in app manager and after installation works.

In 2007HE additional hacking was required to get it working.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Oh oh, I thought you meant by this 'pre-installed'.... As to BT headsets... I seem to be able to get my headset to pair and says the supported profile is HSP... but as yet no luck getting sound through it.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Answering my own question. It already works perfectly. Thanks Fanoush.
-John

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Yes, kernel and initfs is still the same so no change needed. In fact the best is to unpack just rootfs.jjfs2 from .bin image via linux flasher and flash it separately so you won't lose the bootmenu and don't need to reinstall it.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Small differences noted so far :

* virtual memory maxes at 64MB instead of 128 (a pity, it could probably use the difference!)

* battery status bar icon doesn't show a popup when clicked

* file manager does not show the "bluetooth" branch with phones and other devices in it (the menu item File/Send does work though.

Restoring a backup from a N8x0 seems to work with no side effects, which is pretty neat.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

I installed Os 2008 and got o reboots.. it was surprisingly stable. The only issue I saw was low speaker volume. Would someone be able to pont mme to a link to correct this issue? Thanks in advance..

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

since there are people like me who enjoy copying and pasting the shell commands right off the forum, I think it's this, right?

flasher-3.0 -u -F SU-18_2008HACKER_4.2007.50-6_PR_F5_MR0_ARM.bin
flasher-3.0 -r rootfs.jffs2 -f

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Overall, this is a very very promising release. For the two days I've been trying it, it was FAR more stable than even the latest HE 2007 release. The browser seemed faster than I expected from what I'd been reading. The only problem I was having was when using the built-in image viewer to browse images over samba. The "loading image 4/12" notification would pop up, disappear, and pop right back up again in an endless cycle. On internal memory there were no problems though. Mplayer worked just fine with the workaround already posted. Video Center even worked with mediaserv to stream movies, though a bit stuttery without disabling sound. Overall I was prepared to keep this as my main OS though.

But then disaster struck. Installed Maemo Mapper, which appeared to work at first glance. But then while downloading maps, the OS crashed. When it rebooted, after a very short time it crashed again, just sitting there, doing nothing. Auto-connecting was off, and it crashed just sitting there with no input, though it would boot up all the way to the home screen and just sit there before crashing again.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Is there anyway of playing any type of video on this? Avi, mp4 .... anything? The osso mediaplayer does not want to play video (no Codecs) & Mplayer does not work.
The rest of this look good. I think the browser especially is much more stable & marginally faster than the last 2007HE release.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Mplayer *does* work, using a workaround posted elsewhere in this thread. Basically, install mplayer normally (for the dependencies), apt-get uninstall it, dpkg install the package for the 770 from the mplayer garage project page, link a library.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Thanks for guidance (GreySim) but when I try dpkg command I get this error;
dpkg: error processing mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.24.n770_armel.deb (--install):
cannot access archive: No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.24.n770_armel.deb

I did apt-get update prior to dpkg command. Any idea where I am going wrong?

Thanks.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

bahbah12: No idea, unfortunately.

Everyone else: My problem seems to have been with Modest. It was just odd timing, because Modest worked perfectly for me as far as I could tell, but then decided to act up randomly while I was running MM for the first time and downloading maps.

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

@bahbah12: You need first to download the deb and then to install it like that. The command assumes you have the deb in the current dir. And btw, there should be version 25 too.

Here:
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...ree/m/mplayer/

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

May have found a bug with the network connection editor:

Take a Wifi connection that works fine (created by saving from a detected WLAN)

Edit its "advanced properties" to change it from a DHCP connection to a fixed IP address.

From there on it doesn't work anymore - fails very early (2/3 icons blinks), with a different message than usual failures (bad parameters or key) that take longer.

Even editing it again (back to DHCP) doesn't make it work again. Only way is delete and re-create.

Very reproducible here - anyone else ?

Re: 770 and Chinook?
 

Many thanks. I downloaded the file and followed your earlier instructiins. Mplayer works! :)