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dkwatts 2008-02-19 15:44

Videocamera for OS2008 - Released!
 
Marko has just released Video Camera (Beta) WITH video recording.

Works as advertised.

Enjoy!

OSEmuTech 2008-02-19 16:05

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Awesome!

And only two days after I made a request on Garage asking if it could be ported! I should have asked over a month ago! :D

Thank you Marko and thanks for pointing it out dkwatts.

tj110158 2008-02-19 17:21

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Thanks for that info
I just installed it and it works really well, I'm also able to see the photo's that I took with the previously installed camera software. Kind of makes them one in the same, "nice."

RobMtl007 2008-02-19 17:54

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Greetings:


I just installed the VideoCamera apps on my N800.

I just want to bring to your attention that in the setting for this videocamera if you choose to save to the SD Card it will not record anymore.

So there may be a bug.

But now its possible to send a video to your blog page, which is really great.

Regards Robert

hillsdalebob 2008-02-19 18:25

Re: Videocamera for 2008OS - Released!
 
Works great for me! Thanks. By the way, I have it set to save to the "removable memory card" and it works just fine.

When I pop out the camera the N800 automatically start up the internet call application. I do have to close that application and then start video camera.

Very nice.

cashless 2008-02-19 18:29

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Its a little buggy, but I love it already!

Feature suggestions/wishlist (most likely wishes):

1. This app should open by default for N800's when the camera is popped out.
2. Upload to youtube/dailymotion/blog/etc options would be great!

* Haven't tested it yet, but if I plug in a HD/Thumbdrive under host mode, will the app recognize it?

OSEmuTech 2008-02-19 18:30

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hillsdalebob: You can go into the Internet call => Tools => Settings to shut off the automatic launch of Internet call when the camera is extended.

cashless 2008-02-19 18:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hillsdalebob (Post 144766)
When I pop out the camera the N800 automatically start up the internet call application. I do have to close that application and then start video camera.

That's the same thing that happened to me. I never noticed it before, but it struck me as annoying.

fpp 2008-02-19 18:41

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On a N810 I pointed it to the internal 2GB and hit Record. It "recorded" for 10-20 secs then rebooted the tablet. Afterwards there was an 1KB "avi" in a "video" subdirectory.

Now I'm afraid to try again :-)

OSEmuTech 2008-02-19 18:46

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BTW: I copied a recorded video from my NIT to my PC running Windows. Media Player Classic and Windows Media Player 11 play the video, but the audio syncing is a bit off. It appears the audio plays at the correct rate, but the video is slower.

Cptnodegard 2008-02-19 18:51

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what format does it record to? what resolution, and what file sizes per minute?

OSEmuTech 2008-02-19 19:01

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AVI (176 x 144) 8.00fps

GSpot says the video codec is DivX 4 (OpenDivX), and the audio is PCM Audio 8000Hz 128 kb/s (1 chnl) mono.

The audio takes up about 60% of the file size.

10 seconds recorded results in about a 310 KB file in my test.

Note: The N800 camera is rated less than one MP IIRC. This is never going to be a replacement for a real camera or video camcorder, but useful none the less.

Onyros 2008-02-19 19:23

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Can anyone please upload their OS2008 libgstvideoscale.so file for me? It's located at /usr/lib/gstreamer0.10.

I accidentally deleted it, and it's needed for the videocamera to work, I suppose. I can't reinstall gstreamer0.10-plugins-base package and Debian lenny's armel version of the file's not working for me...

Thanks in advance!

DistantFire 2008-02-19 19:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OSEmuTech (Post 144771)
hillsdalebob: You can go into the Internet call => Tools => Settings to shut off the automatic launch of Internet call when the camera is extended.

Thanks so much for this tip!!! I've never used Internet Call yet, so I didn't think to look at the settings there, but I've always been annoyed at the auto-launch.

DF

OSEmuTech 2008-02-19 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Onyros (Post 144822)
Can anyone please upload their OS2008 libgstvideoscale.so file for me? It's located at /usr/lib/gstreamer0.10.

Good luck!

OSEmuTech 2008-02-19 19:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DistantFire (Post 144828)
Thanks so much for this tip!!! I've never used Internet Call yet, so I didn't think to look at the settings there, but I've always been annoyed at the auto-launch.

DF

No problem. I too got annoyed with it launching whenever I used the video camera app on OS 2007. Luckily Nokia thought in advance to allow the automatic startup to be disabled.

Onyros 2008-02-19 19:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OSEmuTech (Post 144836)
Good luck!

Thank you very, very much!

Videocamera's now working for me, as well :D

/me goes record his kid blabbering and drooling.

brashley46 2008-02-19 19:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 144679)
Marko has just released Video Camera (Beta) WITH video recording.

Works as advertised.

Enjoy!

Lovely ... as soon as I get home I'l install and give it a try! :cool:

Got home, got it, it works! Kewl.

Benson 2008-02-19 20:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OSEmuTech (Post 144805)
Note: The N800 camera is rated less than one MP IIRC. This is never going to be a replacement for a real camera or video camcorder, but useful none the less.

Yeah, I'm not saying it is a camcorder replacement, but it's worth noting that VGA is higher than standard (non-HD) TV, so it's not all that bad for video...

qole 2008-02-19 20:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OSEmuTech (Post 144805)
AVI (176 x 144) 8.00fps
GSpot says the video codec is DivX 4 (OpenDivX), and the audio is PCM Audio 8000Hz 128 kb/s (1 chnl) mono.

The audio takes up about 60% of the file size.

10 seconds recorded results in about a 310 KB file in my test.

Note: The N800 camera is rated less than one MP IIRC. This is never going to be a replacement for a real camera or video camcorder, but useful none the less.

The audio is completely uncompressed (basically just in WAV format), which is why it takes up 60+% of the file.

Also, the N800 camera can handle up to 640x480. Obviously, the camera resolution is not the bottleneck here.

Overall, the N800 Video Camera is a cool concept, but it seems that the IT just doesn't have the CPU oomph necessary to encode decent video on the fly. Is this the best that the CPU can do? Is there any way we could get 320x240 video at 15fps?

Are there other, faster-encoding codecs out there that may not be as universally compatible as DivX but require less CPU? I would be willing to trade compatibility for some higher-quality video.

Also, I would love to have something like the Peekaboo project for OS2008. Streaming video is much more interesting to me than recording video.

heavyt 2008-02-19 23:51

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Sound and pic still seem to be out of sync when played back on Media player. Same as the 2007 release, but I am happy someone is still working on the application, thanks. :)

Benson 2008-02-19 23:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 144899)
Are there other, faster-encoding codecs out there that may not be as universally compatible as DivX but require less CPU? I would be willing to trade compatibility for some higher-quality video.

But then you'd have to <gasp /> transcode! :eek:

Moonshine 2008-02-20 05:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 144899)
.....
Are there other, faster-encoding codecs out there that may not be as universally compatible as DivX but require less CPU? I would be willing to trade compatibility for some higher-quality video.

Also, I would love to have something like the Peekaboo project for OS2008. Streaming video is much more interesting to me than recording video.

I'm sure higher quality is possible. h.263+ calls I've tried have a higher frame rate and are also encoding the audio to g729 and decoding audio and video from the other caller, all over a network, and all at under 50% cpu.

I agree. I really wish I had the time/skills to bring Peekaboo into OS2008. It would be a great app.

sjgadsby 2008-02-20 06:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qole (Post 144899)
Are there other, faster-encoding codecs out there that may not be as universally compatible as DivX but require less CPU? I would be willing to trade compatibility for some higher-quality video.

Identifying faster-encoding codecs is easy. H.263 was nifty technology in 1995 and designed for processors of that era. So, to find faster encoding codecs, you just look further back in time to when processors were even weaker. You'll find technological wonders like Cinepak, Indeo, and Apple's Road Pizza.

The thing is, you're not going to get high quality out of any of them. I suppose the "Road Pizza" nickname may have hinted at that to you though.

You could look at mild compression solutions, accepting a much higher bitrate, but how fast is the tablet's I/O subsystem? Also, how much is the CPU involved in that I/O? I haven't looked into it, but I expect the tablets aren't designed for high bitrate, sustained writes. So, lowering the compression complexity might not help.

In the end, H.263 might not be a bad codec choice. Ideally though, it would be implemented in optimized, hand written assembly. If the DSP could be brought into play, possibly for the audio encoding, so much the better.

I don't expect to see anything like that appear on the tablets anytime soon though. There's a reason the really good compression tools cost thousands of dollars. Writing optimized codecs in assembly is hard. (Let's go shopping!)

qole 2008-02-21 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sjgadsby (Post 145142)
In the end, H.263 might not be a bad codec choice. Ideally though, it would be implemented in optimized, hand written assembly. If the DSP could be brought into play, possibly for the audio encoding, so much the better.

I don't expect to see anything like that appear on the tablets anytime soon though. There's a reason the really good compression tools cost thousands of dollars. Writing optimized codecs in assembly is hard. (Let's go shopping!)

KzSnzzz.... Whuh? Huh? <opens eyes> Oh hey, why'd you wake me up? I was having this beautiful dream about recording / streaming nice quality video from my N800.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonshine (Post 145126)
I'm sure higher quality is possible. h.263+ calls I've tried have a higher frame rate and are also encoding the audio to g729 and decoding audio and video from the other caller, all over a network, and all at under 50% cpu.

I agree. I really wish I had the time/skills to bring Peekaboo into OS2008. It would be a great app.

So, Nokia has the h.263+ / g729 encoding software running in the Internet calling app? So just drop that code into the videocamera app! Isn't it developed by a Nokia guy?

Peekaboo uses VLC to encode the video to WMV, but no audio. It looked OK, but I can't help think that dropping the Internet calling encoder into this app would solve our problems.

RobMtl007 2008-02-21 13:08

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Greetings:

Can anyone tell me if the developer of this VideoCamera apps has visited this thread yet?

I believe the quality of Video boosting up to 640 X480 could reached.
Or at least give us two video options.

This videocamera apps is great when you want to record a videoblog.
But if the voice doesn't sync well with the video and quality suffers, then not many users will install this apps.

Please try to improve on the VideoCamera Apps!!!!!!!

Regards Robert

mikedmann 2008-02-21 16:12

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Great job, many thankz. Perfect lil spy recorder.

Aciv 2008-02-21 20:10

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I agree it's a cool spy recorder, but on my unit the sound volume is very low, even after I set the system volume to high during record and playback.

sashabe 2008-02-22 18:56

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Saving to internal memory card is done without problems (it's selected on n810 by default), but the sound volume is very low indeed. On Windows It's played back by Mplayer and MediaPlayer Classic, but not default WM Player 11 with FFDshow (no other codecs, like standalone Divx or XVID, installed). And it would be great also to see more resolutions implemented (at least 320x240).

rcadden 2008-02-28 20:03

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On the sound issue, you can use the included stereo headset to give yourself a wired microphone. Just did a test, works great.

Laughing Man 2008-02-28 20:17

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Does the headset come with a microphone? I always wondered that.

sjgadsby 2008-02-28 20:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 149145)
Does the headset come with a microphone? I always wondered that.

The small box where the headphone cable splits to go to your ears is a microphone.

rcadden 2008-02-28 20:29

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I'm trying to figure out how to upload these to something like YouTube. As reported, they don't play in Winamp or WMP 11.

Helion 2008-03-03 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dkwatts (Post 144679)
Marko has just released Video Camera (Beta) WITH video recording.

Works as advertised.

Enjoy!

I tried to install it but only got the error "Unable to install update".
What am I doing wrong? I have Camera installed in my N800 with
2008OS.
:confused:

OSEmuTech 2008-03-03 23:08

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There's the nice one for 2007 (which I'm using) and the beta for OS 2008. Are you certain you downloaded the right one?

OS 2008: https://garage.maemo.org/frs/downloa....5.2_armel.deb

johsua 2008-03-04 07:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Onyros (Post 144846)
Thank you very, very much!

Videocamera's now working for me, as well :D

/me goes record his kid blabbering and drooling.

That's one of the best things to do, IMO! =) That and recording mom and dad making funny noises at the baby to get them to make funny noises, but instead getting blank stares...

qole 2008-03-07 00:39

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It would be nice to actually talk to the developer of this. There's so much potential here.

Onyros 2008-03-07 01:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johsua (Post 150650)
That's one of the best things to do, IMO! =) That and recording mom and dad making funny noises at the baby to get them to make funny noises, but instead getting blank stares...

LOL, right on! You nailed it!

Anyone else having their IT's freeze to the point of having to remove the battery and everything while using the camera with this app?

mrklaw 2008-03-07 20:35

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I got it installed. It should be mentioned that you need to remove the previous version of camera before this can be installed.

Aciv 2008-03-08 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mrklaw (Post 152053)
I got it installed. It should be mentioned that you need to remove the previous version of camera before this can be installed.

I have both installed.


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