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chenca 2008-02-25 17:37

[Canola] Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
The new version of canola-tuning (0.3.0) brings a new feature.

If you are using the Web Browser you can add any Feed URL to your Canola Database, just click on the link to the Feed (Podcast, Photocast or Internet Radio) and the FeedHandler dialog (new canola-tuning plugin) will ask what you want to do with this URL:

Add this feed to:

* Canola Podcast
* Canola Internet Radio
* Canola Photocast

* Rss feed reader (maemo feed reader)

OBS: OS2008 Browser has a "Preview Feed" feature, so OS2008 users must click on the Feed Icon (the orange one) to activate FeedHandler Dialog.

migs 2008-02-25 18:08

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
This is great news however, I listen to some radio stations that can only be listened to when using the particular radio station's embedded player. This does not work well with any media player for the Nokia tablets that I know of, hopefully the Canola people can find a work around for embedded players...

handful 2008-02-25 18:26

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Hi Migs,

unfortunately this is a complicated issue : / if they don't want to provide a way of listening without going to their website.. it will be very complicated for canola.

And also unfortunately we don't have people to fulfill individual user's request.. because this website is like this.. other will be different and so on : / so sorry for that.. but we will stick to some standards :/

Marcelo

nokian111 2008-02-25 18:42

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
i'd like a lot of presets in canola, so i dont have to hunt for content on
my own... thats why streamtuner is so great... i get dozens of choices of
content, just by running the program...

i use streamtuner for audio... but i havent found the equivalent for
n800 compatible video content... and since the n800 only supports
limited screen resolutions and formats... "tuning" in to video has
been hit or miss...

i'd like dozens or hundreds of links to n800 compatible video content/ tv programs...

migs 2008-02-25 19:01

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 147590)
Hi Migs,

unfortunately this is a complicated issue : / if they don't want to provide a way of listening without going to their website.. it will be very complicated for canola.

And also unfortunately we don't have people to fulfill individual user's request.. because this website is like this.. other will be different and so on : / so sorry for that.. but we will stick to some standards :/

Marcelo

Thanks so much for the responce, you got a point about individual request would be tedious... I also have a Treo 700p with Palm OS and I purchased a media player called Kinoma Player 4.4 it's interesting that this player will play most Radio stations with embedded players, I believe they use "The Stream Center" website as an alternate way to listen to these stations with embedded players. http://www.thestreamcenter.com

dkwatts 2008-02-25 19:56

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Feature request: one (1) official place to download new features and improvements for Canola2.

handful 2008-02-25 20:47

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Dkwatts : there's a oficial place :

1) the maemo extras repository. To where you will be linked from our official website.

So actually today you only have one place :) I don't understand your FR. this is the add on part on the website.

Br

Marcelo

Bundyo 2008-02-25 21:58

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Marcelo, i have one question - why is the podcast refresh (list download) so slow? It doesn't look like it is the download speed.

Or maybe only I'm having this issue?

handful 2008-02-25 22:01

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Bundyo, we are looking into it, well the problem is as there's no standard, the parsing can be slow :/ we will see how to improve it or at least provide better messages while doing..

Br

Marcelo

Bundyo 2008-02-25 22:04

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Yes, I'm a web developer, so i know how it is out there in the wild :)

Thank you.

handful 2008-02-25 22:10

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Yeah, But we are restless :) if there's room for improvement we will try to do it :)

cLin 2008-03-02 00:28

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
is there a way to add streams from a site like www.di.fm? It's all listed underneath the Listen Now! tab but when Iclick on one, the nokia media player gets brought up.

e-motion 2008-03-02 01:10

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cLin (Post 149986)
is there a way to add streams from a site like www.di.fm? It's all listed underneath the Listen Now! tab but when Iclick on one, the nokia media player gets brought up.

Good choice in music :)

In the meantime, if you like that kind of music, it should work with the radio listed in my signature and it's actually a higher quality sound than di.fm (56k, 128k and 192k streams available). ;)

handful 2008-03-02 06:02

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
We support .pls files and some straight forward files.. so if you catch the .pls link you can add to canola :

http://www.di.fm/mp3/funkyhouse.pls

Did you tried this?

Br

Marcelo

jer006 2008-03-04 01:25

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Handful,
I've managed to add all of the DI links no problem, its just a little clumsy to do the copy and pasting of links between the browser and canola each time (and rename the links in canola as each one comes in as DI.fm).

Jeremy.

handful 2008-03-04 03:03

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Jer : you can try installing Canola-tuning3 it has a extension by chenca that detects the .pls file and helps you with that.

I have the personal belief that typing is not good at all :) should be avoided, and URLs? Even more :) so we are actually going to improve even more chenca's trick in the browse for those who want to add straigh to canola with no copy and paste :)

http://www.openbossa.indt.org/canola/using.html

Traecer 2008-03-04 03:11

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Oh wow, I just tried this out with some podcast feeds, and it worked perfectly the first time! Thanks Canola guys!

andersbk 2008-03-05 00:19

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
These are great improvements, but when will Canola be able to save podcast files to a user defined path? Seems like this would be a fairly simple preference to have.

-anders.

handful 2008-03-05 00:40

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Hi Andersbk : this is already being done (if not done, I think it is Kenne knows more) and most of the things are "easy" to do :) but they cannot be magically done at the same time right :) first we needed to make things works right, improve the parsing speed and support the most important feeds.

So, I will confirm with Kenne, but I think it's done and as we have only 2 major releases from now on, this will be out pretty soon :)

Marcelo

bdsilver 2008-03-07 18:54

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by migs (Post 147601)
Thanks so much for the responce, you got a point about individual request would be tedious... I also have a Treo 700p with Palm OS and I purchased a media player called Kinoma Player 4.4 it's interesting that this player will play most Radio stations with embedded players, I believe they use "The Stream Center" website as an alternate way to listen to these stations with embedded players. http://www.thestreamcenter.com

Thanks for the "streamcenter" link. I am now able to listen to my favorite out-of-town sports talk radio station. Now I just need to find a way to listen to MLB baseball on the N800 via the "mlb.com Gameday audio" that I subscribe to.

blade2002 2008-04-14 19:19

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bdsilver (Post 152020)
Thanks for the "streamcenter" link. I am now able to listen to my favorite out-of-town sports talk radio station. Now I just need to find a way to listen to MLB baseball on the N800 via the "mlb.com Gameday audio" that I subscribe to.

Anyone know of a workaround that will get mlb.com gameday audio working ?

Any help would be apprecciated

handful 2008-04-14 20:57

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Hei Blade or Bdsilver

Did you manage to make it work on the default media player on the tablet ? Does it support this mlb.com's wmv audio files?

Let me know?

Marcelo

blade2002 2008-04-15 21:22

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handful (Post 169788)
Hei Blade or Bdsilver

Did you manage to make it work on the default media player on the tablet ? Does it support this mlb.com's wmv audio files?

Let me know?

Marcelo

Marcelo,

CanŽt get gameday audio stream working.

First, you need a mlb.com gameday audio pass, $ 14.99 a year, wich I am am currently subscribed to.

Second, Somehow I seem to remember that last year the gameday audio worked on the n800. Huh ?

Mlb support could not help me either, (not that I trust the mlb support anyway).

Any experienced users out there with a mlb.com gameday audio pass subscription that could possibly help ?

Thanx

handful 2008-04-15 22:04

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Yeah, I would need to know the URL for the stream, because it seems that they have their "player" there. But even with that.. if you have the url you can try:

http://user:password@url.com/something.pls or ram or some supported format.

using of course the user data / correct URL.
But also: it's possible that they are using some format that we do not support


Marcelo

blade2002 2008-04-16 19:26

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
@ Marcelo

Thanx for your suggestions. After googlŽn quite a while now, iŽm leaning to believe that the problem now is that mlb.com is using "Silverlight" from MS now. Geuss iŽll have to wait and see if silverlight comes to the nit. :(

brecklundin 2008-04-29 01:09

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
actually, while it very well seems as if there is an issue of interference from the new Silverlight format. According to the System Requirements page we should be able to listen to the games using MLB Audio package:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/faq_system_requirements.jsp

Quote:

Audio:
MLB.com Gameday Audio, MLB Radio, and all other audio products come in WMA format and run on Windows Media Player version 9.0 or below or the Microsoft Silverlight Player. Audio content older than 2 years will play in the native player. Flash Player 9 or above is required.
So, I am not sure what the problem is...did anyone actually use a tablet to play MLB Audio last season? Could it also be a DRM issue that the current media players do not handle properly/at all?

I did fiddle with trying to get the stream URL to a game yesterday but it was a dismal failure, even with mplayer.

blade2002 2008-05-04 23:03

Re: Adding Podcasts, Photocasts and Internet Radio using Web Browser
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brecklundin (Post 175790)
actually, while it very well seems as if there is an issue of interference from the new Silverlight format. According to the System Requirements page we should be able to listen to the games using MLB Audio package:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/faq_system_requirements.jsp



So, I am not sure what the problem is...did anyone actually use a tablet to play MLB Audio last season? Could it also be a DRM issue that the current media players do not handle properly/at all?

I did fiddle with trying to get the stream URL to a game yesterday but it was a dismal failure, even with mplayer.

No baseball fans here ?

Nhl radio does not work either ?

Still googlŽn but canŽt find any answers yet.

:mad:


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