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datchcha 2008-03-23 15:27

N810 java and javascript support
 
Does the N810 support Java and Javascript?

Cheers!!!

tabletrat 2008-03-23 15:37

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
javascript yes, java sort of but not really.

datchcha 2008-03-23 15:43

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Tablerat - Thank you for your support and honest answer. I am new to linux, and tablet products.

Thank you again. question, in your opion would you get a N800, or N810? I have been reading that you can flash the N800 with the newer os.

Thank you,
Cheers!

tabletrat 2008-03-23 15:46

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Both are great machines, but that is a question for someone else - I have the older 770.
It guess the most obvious answer is that it depends on your use and how much you can get them for. Do you need the hardware keyboard, do you need huge amounts of memory for media etc?
You are better off doing a search on the forum - there are some good threads detailing the differences between the two

grog 2008-03-23 15:50

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Check this thread out. It's helping me decide between the two. HTH

rwzeitgeist 2008-03-23 18:08

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by datchcha (Post 159115)
Does the N810 support Java and Javascript?

I don't believe the N8x0 tablets ship with a Java installation.

A little while ago I explored Java for Maemo, and settled on Jalimo, which provides a Java 5 SE environment without AWT/Switng but with Eclipse SWT GUI libraries.

The company I work for recently demonstrated our product on this Java environment at a large trade show. The product ran on a Windows XP laptop, two versions of Windows Mobile, and the N800. Moving to the N800 and Jalimo required no changes to the Java-centric product.

There's also an entry for Java on a Nokia blog.

Other Java solutions I encountered implement the more constrained mobile Java libraries. IBM's J9 and Sun's phoneME distributions fall into this category, as does jamvm.

Bob

nokian111 2008-03-23 19:21

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
has anyone got java to work as a web browser add on for n800?

datchcha 2008-03-24 01:42

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Is SIP supported on the N800? or is that a feature of the OS2008? I find the infromation on the N800 limited compaired to the N810 on Nokia's website.

Benson 2008-03-24 17:19

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Software is the same, so yes, SIP client works on both.

Jaffa 2008-03-25 11:05

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
As rwzeitgeist says, there's no version of ITOS which ships with Java support.

The web browser in OS2008 is a Gecko-based browser, similar to Firefox 3; so fully supports JavaScript. However, apart from a similarity of syntax there is no commonality between JavaScript and Java.

Jalimo can be used to run Java SE applications, using SWT as a GUI toolkit and this is making good progress. Even without using the Jazelle extensions supported by the CPU, apart from start-up time, it's not as slow as I was expecting in use.

There are no browser plugins which hook into Jalimo or similar to provide Java applet support in the browser, as far as I'm aware.

k-dog 2008-03-26 16:24

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
OK... somebody can correct me if I am wrong... but I have been looking into java applet support so I could potentially use the citrix java client. I have looked at SUN's PhoneME, and it looks nice, but I don't think it is OS2008 yet, plus there is no mention of applet support.

So after some googling, I found this gcjappletviewer stuff that warranted more investigation. As it ends up, there was/is a project that was actually called gcjwebplugin, but has since been moved into GNU Classpath. This gcjwebplugin is a plugin for browsers to load embedded java applets. I did a little more searching, and found some people trying to use JamVM, with GNU Classpath to load applets on there mobile devices (not nokia), but it all seemed pretty experimental. Because of it's experimental nature, and the fact people were having difficulties even getting it to work on a supposedly supported platform, I abandoned that too.

So I came searching here, and found several mentions of Jalimo, so I thought I would check that out. As it ends up Jalimo is pretty much a port of JamVM and GNU Classpath with a distribution specifically for os2008!!!! Nice!!! Sure enough, after browsing Jalimo SVN, it appears that the gcjwebplugin existis within Jalimo. Very interesting!!!!

Now here comes the caveat... I am unfortunately WAY to busy with stuff I get paid to do right now, so I don't have alot of time to experiment myself. Plus, despite my programming background, I am still relatively new to my os2008 n800. So here is hoping someone with time and drive may experiment with such functionality themselves for the "good of the community" :)

Benson 2008-03-26 18:06

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
I haven't had time to mess with jalimo yet, but with Sun java, you can run plugins without a web browser. If that functionality is in jalimo, it should work; it's probably more suited to citrix anyway (less screen overhead), and it could (with some work) be interfaced to the webbrowser, so click where an applet belongs, and the plugin opens in a standalone window.

ytechie 2009-08-25 04:23

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 159836)
As rwzeitgeist says, there's no version of ITOS which ships with Java support.

The web browser in OS2008 is a Gecko-based browser, similar to Firefox 3; so fully supports JavaScript. However, apart from a similarity of syntax there is no commonality between JavaScript and Java.

Jalimo can be used to run Java SE applications, using SWT as a GUI toolkit and this is making good progress. Even without using the Jazelle extensions supported by the CPU, apart from start-up time, it's not as slow as I was expecting in use.

There are no browser plugins which hook into Jalimo or similar to provide Java applet support in the browser, as far as I'm aware.

I am unable to logon to one web site for an online newspaper with the N810, OS2008 browser, but I can logon to any other web site.

You mentioned that the N810 browser is similiar to Firefox 3.
Could my problem be because the web site does not support Firefox 3? They do support firefox browsers because I can logon from a Firefox browser from a Windows PC.

linuxeventually 2009-08-25 05:13

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
@ytechie
Unlikely unless it requires activeX (IE). Although Java is not supported in OS200X so that's a possibility. MicroB is not the only browser available for OS2008 though, try Tear for instance. I use Tear for Google Maps, some Facebook functions, and certain forums. If you provided a link we could do some tests (a peek at the source should suffice). I guess it might even require Flash 10. Of course your post was vague so maybe the page isn't even loading (DNS?).

Andre Klapper 2009-08-25 10:08

Re: N810 java and javascript support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ytechie (Post 315197)
I am unable to logon to one web site for an online newspaper

Please do not post in several threads. This is dealt with already in
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=30955


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