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Yorker 2008-04-10 22:46

FS: Nokia N800
 
Selling my Nokia N800 that I recently bought again. I'm looking to get back a iPod touch or to buy a cellphone. Includes all accessories and booklets in original box.

Condition: Only two scratches on top corners.

Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/21516127@N08/

Price: $185 + shipping
Payments: Paypal


eBay Seller:
Yorker10
eBay Store: Brands Plus

Navi 2008-04-11 00:22

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
It's a shame that you can get an unopened N800 for about four dollars more with free shipping in the US.

Yorker 2008-04-11 03:32

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
It's a shame that most people don't think before they say.

I had the wrong price up. It doesn't matter if it's unopened or not, it's the condition its in and how well it still functions. Unopened or opened either way its still works the same.

I would know this from running a business on eBay and experience from owning a gas station. I'm not angry its just...think before you say.

Benson 2008-04-11 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorker (Post 168261)
It's a shame that most people don't think before they say.

I had the wrong price up. It doesn't matter if it's unopened or not, it's the condition its in and how well it still functions. Unopened or opened either way its still works the same.

Wrong. Because we don't know, can't know, that it really is like new. The value to us naturally reflects the risk of it being worh less than anticipated.

Quote:

I would know this from running a business on eBay and experience from owning a gas station. I'm not angry its just...think before you say.
Hmm... if running an eBay business makes one know this, then why are all the other eBay businesses so careful to say NIB?

Oh, and did your gas station sell used gas that was still in good condition and functioning well? (Sorry, couldn't resist that one.)

gemniii42 2008-04-11 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorker (Post 168261)
It's a shame that most people don't think before they say.

I had the wrong price up. It doesn't matter if it's unopened or not, it's the condition its in and how well it still functions. Unopened or opened either way its still works the same.<snip>

When it works, However:
Quote:

1. The limited warranty for the Product extends for ONE (1) year beginning on the date of
the purchase of the Product. This one year period is extended by each whole day that the
Product is out of your possession for repair under this warranty.
2. The limited warranty extends only to the original purchaser ("Consumer") of the Product
and is not assignable or transferable to any subsequent purchaser/end-user.
And your warranty is?

bunanson 2008-04-11 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorker (Post 168261)
...It doesn't matter if it's unopened or not, it's the condition its in and how well it still functions. Unopened or opened either way its still works the same...

I humbly disagree. A new car driven out the lot depreciates to half, most of the time.

I have no comment on the price, I just want to make a point about NIB. You can advertise about guarrantee NO POWER ON issue (if you already use it), as my NIB bought from Buy.com 2 weeks ago came with POWER ON issue as a bonus :(.

bun

Yorker 2008-04-11 20:51

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
You all are right at most, not that saying what you say is wrong. Where I say "Think before you say" is not to think of the exact possible results. It's just that I don't like it when some people who just busting out like that.
For example, I did, when I said my father owns a gas station and from experience know how to sell. How does that relate? See I talk non-sense too, I at least don't say "you're wrong I'm right," everyone is right and wrong at some extent. A wrong in one person's eye is different in the others, but there is a common wrong and right that everyone knows.

@Benson:
You can predict to what a person would think. Why do you think I put "think?" It's analyzing the outcomes, no one can know the exact outcome but they can at least identify them. You have to have a conscious mind to some extent of reasoning. Everyone makes rational decisions, its just common sense. When it's stated its new then it has to be new as long its a business, that is why I provided my eBay feedback. So you can know at some point. Why would you buy something that doesn't meet your values? That's just stupid.

As for eBay, it is a policy for an item to be described as much as possible. Some sellers put NIB to attract customers, they could have listed it in the description as being NIB. Why wouldn't they put NIB, they attract more sales. A business is all about making profits or its not a business.
As for mine, it has been used and is not "NEW" but "Like New."Why shouldn't they put NIB, why would they put USED when its not used?

As for the gas station. I've seen this as I work at my Dad's gas station and will be ready to take it in a short while. You see a new BP station at one side and you see an old Exxon station at the other. One has new pumps with Credit Card system integrated, the other has old pumps with no Credit Card machines which one would most pick? Our gas station was an old Shell going against a newer BP station and a newer independent station. The BP and other station were receiving more customers even though our gas was 7-9 cents lower at prices.

Now when we renovated the whole gas station and convenience store we started getting more customers at the same price or at 2 cents higher.

It's all in how a product or service is marketed.

@bunanson:

That's because the car parts are being used. The gas is burning for that time. The wheels are being worn.
Say you install new parts to old parts of a car or restore a car and it is equall as new as a new car, you would still be having to sell it for a reduced priced even though everything is new or restored. As for classic cars its different as they are rare.
There are different aspects to different products.

For final statement, I never had listed as the N800 to be NIB and I corrected the price because I made a mistake.

IcelandDreams 2008-04-11 21:02

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WTF is anyone saying here? geez, item for sale, not philosophy and semantics.

oh, and the price is too high. :eek::p

Yorker 2008-04-11 21:12

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gemniii42 (Post 168369)
When it works, However:


And your warranty is?

Yeah, when it works. Sorry, for not stating that:o.

The warranty is from the product not from me.

Yorker 2008-04-11 21:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by IcelandDreams (Post 168589)
WTF is anyone saying here? geez, item for sale, not philosophy and semantics.

oh, and the price is too high. :eek::p

I know I was about to say that:p.

It's that I got the product for 217 on eBay NIB. I think I did overly price it thanks for considering.:)

Yorker 2008-04-11 21:16

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Forgot to thank you so...Thanks!:)

Benson 2008-04-11 21:42

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
You seem to be saying that what Navi said was a reasonable conclusion, but he shouldn't have said it without thinking?

How do you know what/how much he thought before posting?

Obviously, we all misunderstood your first post to Navi. You completely agreed with the suggestion that no one would buy a like new unit over a new unit to save four bucks; you just wished you'd been able to detect a little more activity on your long-range EEG immediately before he posted. Our responses were based on our foolish presumption that when you replied to a comparison of your prices and new prices with the notion that "It doesn't matter if it's unopened or not," you were implying that there needn't or shouldn't be a price difference.

Oh, and one quick question: What in the world does "The warranty is from the product" mean? The product will pay for any repairs it needs?

Perhaps you meant to say there is no warranty to the buyer, since as Gemniii pointed out, the warranty is to the original purchaser and may not be transferred.

IcelandDreams 2008-04-11 21:48

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 168603)
Obviously, we all misunderstood your first post to Navi.

I didn't understand any of the posts
Quote:

You completely agreed with the suggestion that no one would buy a like new unit over a new unit to save four bucks; you just wished you'd been able to detect a little more activity on your long-range EEG immediately before he posted.
best line of the day. so far :cool:

Quote:

Perhaps you meant to say there is no warranty to the buyer, since as Gemniii pointed out, the warranty is to the original purchaser and may not be transferred.
And a big reason why the price drops more than $4 when you drive a NIT off the lot.

oh oh, now I'm going to get a lesson in business practices and profit strategies.

RogerS 2008-04-11 21:57

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
On Monday, a couple lightly used N800's sold for $158 and $168 on e-Bay. (I know because I bought one.)

A couple weeks ago, I would have thought $185 was less than you could get on e-Bay. Now I guess I'd have to agree that it's a little high.

Good luck selling it.

Roger

Benson 2008-04-11 22:02

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Hmmmm.... Driving a tablet off a lot. And taking it straight to da rimhaas to get custom spinnin' wheels like qwerty12's... Curious imagery surrounds the tablets these days.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-11 22:05

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 168603)
Oh, and one quick question: What in the world does "The warranty is from the product" mean? The product will pay for any repairs it needs?

Ohsh—Nokia is shipping self-aware, independently wealthy, and rationally self-interested tablets?!

/me runs for the hills.

Yorker 2008-04-11 22:06

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 168603)
You seem to be saying that what Navi said was a reasonable conclusion, but he shouldn't have said it without thinking?

How do you know what/how much he thought before posting?

Obviously, we all misunderstood your first post to Navi. You completely agreed with the suggestion that no one would buy a like new unit over a new unit to save four bucks; you just wished you'd been able to detect a little more activity on your long-range EEG immediately before he posted. Our responses were based on our foolish presumption that when you replied to a comparison of your prices and new prices with the notion that "It doesn't matter if it's unopened or not," you were implying that there needn't or shouldn't be a price difference.

Oh, and one quick question: What in the world does "The warranty is from the product" mean? The product will pay for any repairs it needs?

Perhaps you meant to say there is no warranty to the buyer, since as Gemniii pointed out, the warranty is to the original purchaser and may not be transferred.

I may have misstated. Everyone thinks before they say it's just that there should be more analyzing.

Yes, I agreed to Navi that a like new unit is not as good as a NIB unit. What do you mean by
Quote:

you just wished you'd been able to detect a little more activity on your long-range EEG immediately before he posted
, meaning what is EEG ?

I don't think any of you had a foolish presumption. Yes, I meant that there shouldn't be a price difference between like-new and NIB items if their condition, functionality, and warranty are the same.
After thinking about it from all your inferences I figured I was wrong about my original statemen.

What I was trying to say about the warranty is that it should be intact since I didn't register by Nokia. The warranty is supplied by Nokia and is for whoever owns the product and registers it. Or am I wrong? Please correct me.

As on eBay, products sold such as an iTouch still have a 1 year warranty that is issued by Apple. For one instance, I bought one and the warranty was intact until November 2008 and I was able to send it to Apple for repair.

I agree that my price, $200, was high, I just needed money for a new toy.
Sorry for all the confusion.

Yorker 2008-04-11 22:07

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerS (Post 168617)
On Monday, a couple lightly used N800's sold for $158 and $168 on e-Bay. (I know because I bought one.)

A couple weeks ago, I would have thought $185 was less than you could get on e-Bay. Now I guess I'd have to agree that it's a little high.

Good luck selling it.

Roger

Yea, that's what I saw! Weird, it's because of the N810 WME. The introduction of this product will certainly decrease the price of the N8X0 Tablets.

Benson 2008-04-11 22:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorker (Post 168627)
what is EEG ?

Electroencephalograph
Which is contact-range, of course, so not really applicable, but I was just making a cheap crack, so I didn't bother looking up what the non-contact equivalents are called.

IcelandDreams 2008-04-11 22:17

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qwerty12's
damn homie, if I was 30+ years younger I'd put qwerty24s on da nIt. word

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Yorker 2008-04-11 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 168636)
Electroencephalograph
Which is contact-range, of course, so not really applicable, but I was just making a cheap crack, so I didn't bother looking up what the non-contact equivalents are called.

Thanks! Good info too:D. I remember seeing that acronym somewhere at school. I'm 16 so I don't know as much as you all. I don't like it when I say "you all" doesn't sound respectable to....don't know how to say respectably.:(

Yorker 2008-04-11 22:24

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Oh, could someone tell me if the warranty if not registered is applied to any owner?

bunanson 2008-04-11 23:33

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yorker (Post 168585)
...@bunanson:

That's because the car parts are being used. The gas is burning for that time. The wheels are being worn.
....

That is what I said but that is NOT what I meant. So, I would like to say it one more time to get the record straight:

A new car driven out the lot depreciates to half, most of the time.

The statement has very little to do with "the car parts are being used. The gas is burning for that time. The wheels are being worn"

bun

Yorker 2008-04-11 23:43

Re: FS: Nokia N800
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bunanson (Post 168658)
That is what I said but that is NOT what I meant. So, I would like to say it one more time to get the record straight:

A new car driven out the lot depreciates to half, most of the time.

The statement has very little to do with "the car parts are being used. The gas is burning for that time. The wheels are being worn"

bun

I see it now...my bad.


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