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rbrewer123 2008-04-14 03:32

[Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I've done an initial port of Gene Cash's python PIM programs to OS 2008. These packages should be backwards compatible with OS 2007 also. Download the .debs in order and the dependencies should be satisfied properly.

https://garage.maemo.org/projects/genecash-pim

Gene's website with information about the apps is here:
http://home.cfl.rr.com/genecash/nokia/

Thanks to mbfrog's post in this thread for a great start at the port:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...=calend&page=2

Edit: Spend It and Info on Tap added. New URL.
Edit: Moved to garage.

GeraldKo 2008-04-14 06:08

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
So far so good. Both installed with no problems. I've played a bit now with the To Do app and it seems to work very smoothly, causes no problems. I'm really glad you ported it, and I expect I'll soon be glad you ported the calendar, too.

Good job! (Good job, Gene Cash, too; it seems so far like a very cleanly made little program.)

Thanks!

vvaz 2008-04-14 08:05

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Thanks,

Do you plan to port Spend-It? It is the last app which keeps me with OS2007.

El Amir 2008-04-14 09:06

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Ill never be able to thank you enough :)

miind 2008-04-14 09:39

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Tested the to-do app, I didnt get the fingerkeyboard working when adding new tasks!?

BoxOfSnoo 2008-04-14 11:55

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I can't get iCalendar to install, it says it's not a debian format archive. Could it be corrupted? I downloaded it twice.

Nitesky 2008-04-14 12:09

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
My machine says I am missing Python2.5 Could u tell me which python2.5 I need? I checked the repositories and several are available.

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 12:32

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I'll take a look at Spend It too. So far the porting hasn't been too difficult... but some details like the finger keyboard issue somebody mentioned might take some doing to track down.

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 12:33

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I tested the website packages by downloading directly to my NIT, so I'm not sure what to say icalendar... perhaps try a "save as" from the browser?

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 12:35

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I think I got python2.5 magically installed by some other app I previously loaded on my NIT... hopefully somebody else can provide some help for the easiest way to do it. If you look up pymaemo on garage there is a more complicated way to install it separately in red-pill mode:
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/installation.html

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 12:37

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by miind (Post 169485)
Tested the to-do app, I didnt get the fingerkeyboard working when adding new tasks!?

I haven't used the finger keyboard... I've only accidentally seen it pop up once when I was messing around in other apps. What is a good app to use it in, and how do I reliably activate it (as a user)?

Thanks...

BoxOfSnoo 2008-04-14 13:08

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrewer123 (Post 169521)
I tested the website packages by downloading directly to my NIT, so I'm not sure what to say icalendar... perhaps try a "save as" from the browser?

I tried both! I did "save as" for all the packages then used dpkg actually. I can try wget...

Hooray! wget... uh... wgot. Thanks.

GeraldKo 2008-04-14 13:28

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrewer123 (Post 169522)
I think I got python2.5 magically installed by some other app I previously loaded on my NIT... hopefully somebody else can provide some help for the easiest way to do it. If you look up pymaemo on garage there is a more complicated way to install it separately in red-pill mode:
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/installation.html

As to which Python, runtime 2.5.

As to How install, see this post.

Snoshrk 2008-04-14 14:31

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I've downloaded and installed all three of Gene's Apps. Wow, I hope they live to the initial impression: Great Work Gene!

They look to be a great replacement for the Palm PIMs that I have been missing...

Does anyone know if the ToDo's and Calender entries interact?
ie Add new Todo with a due date and it shows in the Calender.


Todo specific question: how do I keep the date chooser from dropping off the bottom of the screen?

Thanks

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 15:22

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
There is some interaction between Gene's to_do and calend apps. You can mark calend entries to generate a to_do entry on their appointed date. The implementation is that calend sends a todo entry over to the to_do app. Also, in order for that to work, calend queries the to_do app for its list of categories. It seems to query Gene's to_do app only, so for example it won't pull categories from GPE's todo manager.

Edit: I think this implementation means that you can setup repeating to_do entries via the calend.

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 15:38

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoshrk (Post 169558)
Todo specific question: how do I keep the date chooser from dropping off the bottom of the screen?

I don't know of a date chooser in Gene's to_do app. Perhaps you ran a different to_do app?

vvaz 2008-04-14 15:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rbrewer123 (Post 169520)
I'll take a look at Spend It too. So far the porting hasn't been too difficult... but some details like the finger keyboard issue somebody mentioned might take some doing to track down.

Thanks and... take your time. I will wait for 4.1 anyway. :)

mikeywilliams 2008-04-14 15:53

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Have a problem with the calendar.
Imported an ical (saved from Outlook).
It accepted it but the log showed lots of errors and the imported calendar was not correct.
But now when I start calendar it gets as far as saying "populating the date cache" and then it vanishes.
Is there a calendar cache somewhere that I can delete?
I cant uninstall calendar as it says it is needed.
TIA and thanks for a useful port.

here.david 2008-04-14 17:07

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I have the cal installed with the alarm working from manually inputting an event...:cool:

However, when I try to import ical into calendar it states "populating the date cache" then nothing is imported...

I also tried my igoogle cal code as well as the ical (basic.ics) and that did not work...which would be the best...even if gpe cal could be imported...

n810 2008 OS - RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.51-3

any ideas....

The functionality, look and feel of this PIM is the best yet...

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 17:26

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeywilliams (Post 169602)
Have a problem with the calendar.
Imported an ical (saved from Outlook).
It accepted it but the log showed lots of errors and the imported calendar was not correct.
But now when I start calendar it gets as far as saying "populating the date cache" and then it vanishes.
Is there a calendar cache somewhere that I can delete?

Thanks for trying that... since the riskier bits like pyalarmd "just worked", I haven't tested the import feature yet. I'm hoping to do that soon for my own data which is currently in GPE. Unfortunately GPE needs some additional scripting to dump its data into standard iCalendar form. Getting the GPE calendar -> calend path working will be my highest priority... hopefully by next week.

I believe the file to delete is here:
/home/user/MyDocs/.python/calend_data.dat

Nitesky 2008-04-14 17:31

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rbrewer123 View Post
I think I got python2.5 magically installed by some other app I previously loaded on my NIT... hopefully somebody else can provide some help for the easiest way to do it. If you look up pymaemo on garage there is a more complicated way to install it separately in red-pill mode:
http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/installation.html

Wow, I know nothing about red pill mode and would rather not go the more complicated way:(
Is there really no other way?? Is there some other app that I could download that already has python2.5 already installed? Darn!!
Anybody??

mikeywilliams 2008-04-14 18:51

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Thanks, deleting that file enabled calendar to run again.
Good luck with the ical importation - would be nice if outlook exported icals could be imported.

Terry_Davis 2008-04-14 19:00

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Great work on the To_do and Calender ports I dowloaded the programs and everything worked great. This is big fr all the people who needed more PIM functionality out of there tablet. Please Let me know when you get the Spend_it program up I really Really will be thankful.


Good Work

Snoshrk 2008-04-14 19:36

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoshrk (Post 169558)
Todo specific question: how do I keep the date chooser from dropping off the bottom of the screen?

Oops, Task App needs more info...:o

Ok, when setting the due date for a new Task entry, you can "choose" the due date from a drop down button This shows a full month Calendar + buttons for Today and None with the calendar running off the bottom of the screen.


Thanks

rbrewer123 2008-04-14 20:30

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snoshrk (Post 169736)
Oops, Task App needs more info...:o
Ok, when setting the due date for a new Task entry, you can "choose" the due date from a drop down button This shows a full month Calendar + buttons for Today and None with the calendar running off the bottom of the screen.

I think you're describing the OpenedHand Tasks app... I have the same behavior on my device. Look for the app with a red and blue "To Do" icon. That's Gene Cash's app which this thread is about. Look in the About menu to be sure... I have about 3 or 4 todo apps on my device and it can be confusing choosing the right one.

alephito 2008-04-14 22:09

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I was trying Calendar and so far it seems a very nice application.

Is there any way to sync it with Google Calendar?

Thanks.

BoxOfSnoo 2008-04-14 23:25

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Has anyone been able to set an event with an alarm yet? Nothing happens for me. When I go back in to the event, it's changed a 20 minute alarm preset to a 22h 20 minute one.

alephito 2008-04-15 00:06

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Yes, the first test I did was with an alarm and it worked as expected.

rbrewer123 2008-04-15 03:49

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Alarms are working correctly for me also. That is on a freshly-created event. I have confirmed that importing iCalendar files does not work.

Edit: to clarify, the import does not work.

rbrewer123 2008-04-15 03:54

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alephito (Post 169841)
I was trying Calendar and so far it seems a very nice application.

Is there any way to sync it with Google Calendar?

Thanks.

No, not currently. It can import/export iCalendar files which google should be able to read. Depending on your use-case that might be close enough. Note that there is a bug in the current version's ability to import iCalendar files, but that should be fixed within a week.

GeraldKo 2008-04-15 03:57

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I don't think the linking between To-Do and Calend is working (entirely) yet. The To-Do categories show up in Calend, but when you add a To Do item in Calend, it doesn't magically appear in To-Do; nor vice-versa. (I think they're supposed to talk to each other that way; maybe I'm wrong.)

Not a big deal at all. Just reporting.

Love the apps, thanks again, to both you and Gene Cash.

micrometer 2008-04-15 04:08

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
I managed to save my *.ics files from Google calendar and import them. Oddly enough, the events show up on monthly calendars, but in the Agenda view, only the dates and times show, the actual event info (i.e. what's going on) has to be hand typed in.

At least it's something.

Also, I ran a test alarm with no issues.

rbrewer123 2008-04-15 04:20

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeraldKo (Post 169963)
I don't think the linking between To-Do and Calend is working (entirely) yet. The To-Do categories show up in Calend, but when you add a To Do item in Calend, it doesn't magically appear in To-Do; nor vice-versa. (I think they're supposed to talk to each other that way; maybe I'm wrong.)

Not a big deal at all. Just reporting.

Love the apps, thanks again, to both you and Gene Cash.

Reporting is A-OK. :)

I think todo items created in calend are supposed to show up in the to_do app, but not until the date specified in calend. Does that match your understanding?

In the meantime I'm adding it to the list of things to look into.

here.david 2008-04-15 05:23

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by micrometer (Post 169968)
I managed to save my *.ics files from Google calendar and import them. Oddly enough, the events show up on monthly calendars, but in the Agenda view, only the dates and times show, the actual event info (i.e. what's going on) has to be hand typed in.

At least it's something.


Also, I ran a test alarm with no issues.


would you give the steps you followed...I downloaded both the link and the basic.ics with neither working...

wv9k 2008-04-15 06:51

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Tried these last night (installed in sequence from the brewer123 site). Tapped on them in extras and absolutely nothing :-(.

Thought it was that they were really for 2007, but then I don't think they would have installed.

Hope to be able to look at this tomorrow and see what is up.

If it will sync with jpilot, I can finally retire that damn Z31 with the random digitizer :).

L0cutus 2008-04-15 09:54

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seems the week events doesn't work, i'm unable to create them, i check the week tab, select
the days, set the alarm and the time, finally click on 'Apply', i see only "populating the date
cache" and stop, no event were created....
What i'm doing wrong ?

thanks for the port to os2008 !!!

Nitesky 2008-04-15 12:10

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Still no luck for me. I have searched and searched the forums here. One post mentioned adding Canola would help. I downloaded Canola and then was able to download the first 2 parts of gene Cash's entries. But thats all! The rest still say I am missing apps that are needed. Can anyone tell me what I still need to add to my machine to download the remaining parts?
# python-dateutil
# nokia-utilities
# to-do
# calend
I don't do red pill mode, so I really need further advice.

rbrewer123 2008-04-15 12:41

Re: [Announce] Gene Cash's to_do and calend PIM programs for OS 2008
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by micrometer (Post 169968)
I managed to save my *.ics files from Google calendar and import them. Oddly enough, the events show up on monthly calendars, but in the Agenda view, only the dates and times show, the actual event info (i.e. what's going on) has to be hand typed in.

At least it's something.

Also, I ran a test alarm with no issues.

That's what I see on my setup when I import an iCalendar file from Evolution. Go into the View Logs menu item and you should see some various exceptions. Those exceptions are preventing display in various views.

BoxOfSnoo 2008-04-15 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wv9k (Post 170006)
If it will sync with jpilot, I can finally retire that damn Z31 with the random digitizer :).

Hey, I'd love to see jpilot ported! Don't know how hard that would be.

rbrewer123 2008-04-15 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitesky (Post 170057)
Still no luck for me. I have searched and searched the forums here. One post mentioned adding Canola would help. I downloaded Canola and then was able to download the first 2 parts of gene Cash's entries. But thats all! The rest still say I am missing apps that are needed. Can anyone tell me what I still need to add to my machine to download the remaining parts?
# python-dateutil
# nokia-utilities
# to-do
# calend
I don't do red pill mode, so I really need further advice.

Here are a few apps to try installing to see if they install python2.5 for you:
maemo-periodic
multilist
pyculator
eggtimer

You can uninstall them once you've got python.

I got this list by running 'apt-cache rdepends python2.5' from my NIT xterm and picking a few from the very long list.


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