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Karel Jansens 2008-04-17 15:20

iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/04/1...or-the-iphone/

So the iPhone (<spit!>) apparently got HWR. But before y'all run out and buy the thing, have a good look at it, because it's almost the same cr*p we have on our Itablets (which also have proper capitalisation, danggit!): Text input in a separate input window, extreme modality (letters and numbers), no cursivity, no proper word recognition (the spacebar is testimony of that) and, of course, no stylus.

Kudos for having the balls to write this in the first place (Jobs'll have a right fit) but please, don't call it "Newton-style HWR", 'cuz that's just plain lying.

ysss 2008-04-17 15:36

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Karel, you're a secret admirer of the iPhone\iTouch.. aren't you???

Karel Jansens 2008-04-17 15:55

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 171074)
Karel, you're a secret admirer of the iPhone\iTouch.. aren't you???

I'm apparently on the official Apple "Not Ever Allowed to Buy One, Like" list.

It's a really short list...

That said, if ParaGraph (or, in a pinch, Inkwell) were ever ported to that thing, I would find a way to get one.

ysss 2008-04-17 16:06

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
LOL! I'm sure they're doing it for your safety, mate. The constant spit around apple product must be a real electrocution hazard ;)

Benson 2008-04-17 16:13

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Notice, of course, that it was developed for CJK input... for which it makes more sense than any conceivable alternative on those machines. (Since the iTouch doesn't have a mic for speech transcription.)

It appears that you write a word at a time, not a letter at a time... so it is somewhat different, and I'm not at all sure which approach is better. But I know a stylus is better for legible writing than a BFF. So if you have an iThing, get this. (I think it'll work; it's designed for laptop capacitive touchpads.)

Bundyo 2008-04-17 16:52

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
In a more interesting twist: how exactly are you supposed to "fingerwrite"?

brecklundin 2008-04-17 18:52

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 171111)
In a more interesting twist: how exactly are you supposed to "fingerwrite"?

especially w/big ol' fat fingers like mine. some say thick, i just say fat. ;)

sherifnix 2008-04-17 19:49

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Surprisingly, the best HWR I've used was on a Tablet PC a few years ago. I am really impressed with MS' implementation (omg nooo). The Newton was definitely before my time but I remember it when I was just getting into computers. Just as I started to appreciate it, its last model 2100 came out.

Frankly, on a device the size of an iPhone (<love!>), HWR would seem a bit rough... and considering how effective their on screen keyboard is, I don't see Apple getting around to it.

I'd love a 5 or 7 inch "iTablet" with the same OS as the iPods, a meatier processor and license MS' ink tech.

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-17 19:52

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherifnix (Post 171205)
I'd love a 5 or 7 inch "iTablet" with the same OS as the iPods, a meatier processor and license MS' ink tech.

Why? :\ They have their own (better) HWR leftover from the Newton (Inkwell in OS X).

Karel Jansens 2008-04-17 20:21

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sherifnix (Post 171205)
Surprisingly, the best HWR I've used was on a Tablet PC a few years ago. I am really impressed with MS' implementation (omg nooo). The Newton was definitely before my time but I remember it when I was just getting into computers. Just as I started to appreciate it, its last model 2100 came out.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, Microsoft's "implementation" is a licensed, cut-down and dumbed-down version of PhatWare's Calligrapher, which itself is PenOffice's little sibling.

Or are they still bundling CIC's Jot (the horror! the horror!!!) with tablet XP?

Karel Jansens 2008-04-17 20:22

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles (Post 171207)
Why? :\ They have their own (better) HWR leftover from the Newton (Inkwell in OS X).

The Newton's HWR solution was better, but I'll take Inkwell... :rolleyes:

sherifnix 2008-04-18 01:27

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
Hmm, I haven't used Inkwell. Its too bad there isn't anything but the ModBook available to really give it a try :) Wish I had $2k+ to drop! I just picked up a dell d420 and i'm waiting for an imac refresh to buy.

I suppose a cheap wacom tablet would let me play with inkwell.

ysss 2008-04-18 01:35

Re: iPhone (<spit!>) has HWR! News at eleven! Errr...
 
A modbook, wacom cintiq, or maybe setup a hackintosh system on a tabletPC.

It seems that MS inking technology is a few steps in front of Mac, especially with their TabletPC push a few years ago. Who knows what Apple is doing inside their labs with a yet unannounced product...

Inkwell vs Vista's HWR:
http://inkspatter.blogspot.com/2008/...cognition.html

MS next gen ink interface:
http://research.microsoft.com/inkseine/Features.html


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